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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1821 » by anotherhomer » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:36 am

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Jtoneller1 wrote:How crazy is this lol

Dallas: Kyrie, AD
Toronto: IQ, BI, Yak, 2026, 2028, 2030 FRPs

We get an elite shot creator, 1st option half court bucket getter and an upgrade at C (slightly better fit with Scottie). This would put us firmly in contention if Kyrie and AD are healthy.

Dallas takes on longer term money but gets a treasure trove of picks. It resets their timeline a bit and improves the overall character/professionalism of the cast surrounding Flagg.

Kyrie/Shead
RJ/Gradey
Scottie/Ochai
CMB/Mogbo
AD/Mamu

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I'll pass. Both guys are injury prone and on the tail-end of their careers.


Kyrie is a gamble....coming off ACL injury and old.
You need to keep BI, as your half-court creator.

Davis doesn't play Center (or doesn't want to),
You could take a flyer on Kyrie if price is low, if Dallas wants IQ....but then RJ has to come off the bench, to insert a defender (Ochai) to balance team out
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Post#1822 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:48 am

Jtoneller1 wrote:How crazy is this lol

Dallas: Kyrie, AD
Toronto: IQ, BI, Yak, 2026, 2028, 2030 FRPs

We get an elite shot creator, 1st option half court bucket getter and an upgrade at C (slightly better fit with Scottie). This would put us firmly in contention if Kyrie and AD are healthy.

Dallas takes on longer term money but gets a treasure trove of picks. It resets their timeline a bit and improves the overall character/professionalism of the cast surrounding Flagg.

Kyrie/Shead
RJ/Gradey
Scottie/Ochai
CMB/Mogbo
AD/Mamu

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Absolutely awful.

Taking on constantly injured, aging players for future picks is just foolish.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1823 » by anotherhomer » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:51 am

PhilBlackson wrote:
Jtoneller1 wrote:How crazy is this lol

Dallas: Kyrie, AD
Toronto: IQ, BI, Yak, 2026, 2028, 2030 FRPs

We get an elite shot creator, 1st option half court bucket getter and an upgrade at C (slightly better fit with Scottie). This would put us firmly in contention if Kyrie and AD are healthy.

Dallas takes on longer term money but gets a treasure trove of picks. It resets their timeline a bit and improves the overall character/professionalism of the cast surrounding Flagg.

Kyrie/Shead
RJ/Gradey
Scottie/Ochai
CMB/Mogbo
AD/Mamu

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Absolutely awful.

Taking on constantly injured, aging players for future picks is just foolish.


the real gamble is trading IQ for Kyrie....but if it blows up, it cost Bobby Webster his job
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Post#1824 » by CazOnReal » Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:17 am

If the Raptors traded for that conspiratorial antisemitic antivaxxer f-ckwit, I will not be watching this team until he's off of it.

That's not a gamble, that's willingly choosing to infect your team with syphilis.

Like LaMelo has said some stupid stuff in the past too and we all know Ja's laundry list of controversies but Kyrie? F*ck no.
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Post#1825 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:54 pm

I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
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Post#1826 » by JCP11 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 2:14 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.
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Post#1827 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:34 pm

JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.


Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.
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Post#1828 » by billy_hoyle » Wed Nov 12, 2025 4:36 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.


Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.


Trade them IQ, Dick, Mogbo and Ochai + our 1st for Doma and Carter.

New line-up:

PG: Shead, Carter
SG: RJ, Walter, Lawson
SF: BI, CMB, Battle
PF: Scottie, CMB/Mamu
C: Sabonis, Yak, Mamu

Stretch rebounding C and pest PG.

Keep Yak so we have plus size in an increasingly big league.

You could play Yak, Doma, Scottie/CMB frontcourts.
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Post#1829 » by JCP11 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:57 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.


Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.

If we're serious about winning we can't have RJ, Ingram and IQ in the starting 5 for lack of defensive abilities. However I fail to see how trading for Sabonis is making the team better, he's not bad but he's not moving the needle for me. I rather keep Poeltl and try to get a versatile 3 and D forward to replace RJ in the starting lineup. The guy that I've always liked is Patrick Williams lll, he's been a disappointment as a former 4th ovr pick but he's long athletic, can really defend and he can shoot it. Scottie knows him as former Seminole, maybe he could help him unlock something because the tools are there. He's still only 24. He's now coming off the bench so maybe he will be cheap. I know it's a long shot but he's the type of fit they need.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1830 » by billy_hoyle » Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:36 pm

JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:
JCP11 wrote:Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.


Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.

If we're serious about winning we can't have RJ, Ingram and IQ in the starting 5 for lack of defensive abilities. However I fail to see how trading for Sabonis is making the team better, he's not bad but he's not moving the needle for me. I rather keep Poeltl and try to get a versatile 3 and D forward to replace RJ in the starting lineup. The guy that I've always liked is Patrick Williams lll, he's been a disappointment as a former 4th ovr pick but he's long athletic, can really defend and he can shoot it. Scottie knows him as former Seminole, maybe he could help him unlock something because the tools are there. He's still only 24. He's now coming off the bench so maybe he will be cheap. I know it's a long shot but he's the type of fit they need.


Why does everyone want to replace RJ with a SF?

It's absurd.

He's a guard. Why would we want Scottie, Ingram, CMB and Pat Williams? It doesn't fit at all IMO, that's 4 times 6-7+ dudes. These guys are all forwards. We already have Battle and Mogbo as deeper options.

We have Ochai and Walter already on the roster to replace RJ with theoretical 3&D SGs and shift RJ to primarily bench minutes. That's purely just coaches staggering minutes properly

We need to get a 3&D center, and possibly a 3&D PG (Shead might become this).

IQ and RJ just need to play more with 3&D bench options.

We NEED another C.

It's bloody obvious. I'd trade Dick for one, or id trade Dick for another 3&D PG, and look to move IQ for a stretch centre with a sizable contract (like Sabonis).
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Post#1831 » by JCP11 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:58 pm

billy_hoyle wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:
Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.

If we're serious about winning we can't have RJ, Ingram and IQ in the starting 5 for lack of defensive abilities. However I fail to see how trading for Sabonis is making the team better, he's not bad but he's not moving the needle for me. I rather keep Poeltl and try to get a versatile 3 and D forward to replace RJ in the starting lineup. The guy that I've always liked is Patrick Williams lll, he's been a disappointment as a former 4th ovr pick but he's long athletic, can really defend and he can shoot it. Scottie knows him as former Seminole, maybe he could help him unlock something because the tools are there. He's still only 24. He's now coming off the bench so maybe he will be cheap. I know it's a long shot but he's the type of fit they need.


Why does everyone want to replace RJ with a SF?

It's absurd.

He's a guard. Why would we want Scottie, Ingram, CMB and Pat Williams? It doesn't fit at all IMO, that's 4 times 6-7+ dudes. These guys are all forwards. We already have Battle and Mogbo as deeper options.

We have Ochai and Walter already on the roster to replace RJ with theoretical 3&D SGs and shift RJ to primarily bench minutes. That's purely just coaches staggering minutes properly

We need to get a 3&D center, and possibly a 3&D PG (Shead might become this).

IQ and RJ just need to play more with 3&D bench options.

We NEED another C.

It's bloody obvious. I'd trade Dick for one, or id trade Dick for another 3&D PG, and look to move IQ for a stretch centre with a sizable contract (like Sabonis).

I'd imagine Ingram would play the 2 in this scenario. Something that the championship year taught me as well as last year's playoffs, Defense and shooting will win you the championship. Sabonis would be taken advantage of in the playoffs and we just wouldn't have enough defense with him and IQ as a PG-C pair. I agree that we need another center but I don't think it as to be a stretch 5. As long as he can rebound, protect the rim and shoot free throws it's already a plus. 5s that shoot the 3 and protect the rim are hard to find and also expensive. My reasoning with PWlll is that he's super athletic, can defend multiple positions and shoots the 3 very well. We need guys to cover for IQ and BIs defensive deficiencies.
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Post#1832 » by billy_hoyle » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:31 am

JCP11 wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:
JCP11 wrote:If we're serious about winning we can't have RJ, Ingram and IQ in the starting 5 for lack of defensive abilities. However I fail to see how trading for Sabonis is making the team better, he's not bad but he's not moving the needle for me. I rather keep Poeltl and try to get a versatile 3 and D forward to replace RJ in the starting lineup. The guy that I've always liked is Patrick Williams lll, he's been a disappointment as a former 4th ovr pick but he's long athletic, can really defend and he can shoot it. Scottie knows him as former Seminole, maybe he could help him unlock something because the tools are there. He's still only 24. He's now coming off the bench so maybe he will be cheap. I know it's a long shot but he's the type of fit they need.


Why does everyone want to replace RJ with a SF?

It's absurd.

He's a guard. Why would we want Scottie, Ingram, CMB and Pat Williams? It doesn't fit at all IMO, that's 4 times 6-7+ dudes. These guys are all forwards. We already have Battle and Mogbo as deeper options.

We have Ochai and Walter already on the roster to replace RJ with theoretical 3&D SGs and shift RJ to primarily bench minutes. That's purely just coaches staggering minutes properly

We need to get a 3&D center, and possibly a 3&D PG (Shead might become this).

IQ and RJ just need to play more with 3&D bench options.

We NEED another C.

It's bloody obvious. I'd trade Dick for one, or id trade Dick for another 3&D PG, and look to move IQ for a stretch centre with a sizable contract (like Sabonis).

I'd imagine Ingram would play the 2 in this scenario. Something that the championship year taught me as well as last year's playoffs, Defense and shooting will win you the championship. Sabonis would be taken advantage of in the playoffs and we just wouldn't have enough defense with him and IQ as a PG-C pair. I agree that we need another center but I don't think it as to be a stretch 5. As long as he can rebound, protect the rim and shoot free throws it's already a plus. 5s that shoot the 3 and protect the rim are hard to find and also expensive. My reasoning with PWlll is that he's super athletic, can defend multiple positions and shoots the 3 very well. We need guys to cover for IQ and BIs defensive deficiencies.


I agree that we need shooters and defenders.

I don't like having RJ and IQ playing together. I think they should be staggered as much as possible.

I also agree that you don't need a stretch 5, but a guy like Sabonis gives you a different look. He's obviously not a rim protector, but he IS an elite rebounder. If you play good defender at the PF (Barnes or CMB) and guards (Shead and Ochai/Walter). You'd have a legitimately interesting lineup with BI at the 3.

Another good rim protecting and rebounding presence would go a long way on this team. Someone like Gafford, Mark Williams or Ayton.

I don't think playing slow footed BI at the 2 would be good for our defence.
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Post#1833 » by JCP11 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 12:51 am

billy_hoyle wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
billy_hoyle wrote:
Why does everyone want to replace RJ with a SF?

It's absurd.

He's a guard. Why would we want Scottie, Ingram, CMB and Pat Williams? It doesn't fit at all IMO, that's 4 times 6-7+ dudes. These guys are all forwards. We already have Battle and Mogbo as deeper options.

We have Ochai and Walter already on the roster to replace RJ with theoretical 3&D SGs and shift RJ to primarily bench minutes. That's purely just coaches staggering minutes properly

We need to get a 3&D center, and possibly a 3&D PG (Shead might become this).

IQ and RJ just need to play more with 3&D bench options.

We NEED another C.

It's bloody obvious. I'd trade Dick for one, or id trade Dick for another 3&D PG, and look to move IQ for a stretch centre with a sizable contract (like Sabonis).

I'd imagine Ingram would play the 2 in this scenario. Something that the championship year taught me as well as last year's playoffs, Defense and shooting will win you the championship. Sabonis would be taken advantage of in the playoffs and we just wouldn't have enough defense with him and IQ as a PG-C pair. I agree that we need another center but I don't think it as to be a stretch 5. As long as he can rebound, protect the rim and shoot free throws it's already a plus. 5s that shoot the 3 and protect the rim are hard to find and also expensive. My reasoning with PWlll is that he's super athletic, can defend multiple positions and shoots the 3 very well. We need guys to cover for IQ and BIs defensive deficiencies.


I agree that we need shooters and defenders.

I don't like having RJ and IQ playing together. I think they should be staggered as much as possible.

I also agree that you don't need a stretch 5, but a guy like Sabonis gives you a different look. He's obviously not a rim protector, but he IS an elite rebounder. If you play good defender at the PF (Barnes or CMB) and guards (Shead and Ochai/Walter). You'd have a legitimately interesting lineup with BI at the 3.

Another good rim protecting and rebounding presence would go a long way on this team. Someone like Gafford, Mark Williams or Ayton.

I don't think playing slow footed BI at the 2 would be good for our defence.

Of course BI atthe 2 is not ideal but if you have rim protection it can be manageable especially with Scottie roaming on defense.
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Post#1834 » by CazOnReal » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:07 am

Saw this elsewhere, what do we think of this? Irrespective of whether it's a realistic package or not. The trade can't be fulfilled until January but it's otherwise legal.

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CazOnReal wrote:Saw this elsewhere, what do we think of this? Irrespective of whether it's a realistic package or not. The trade can't be fulfilled until January but it's otherwise legal.

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If AD doesn't want to play C then is Scottie going to play C?

I feel like the Raptors don't need to make such a huge deal, just one that consolidates and makes the rotation clearer and stronger, like JV, CJ Miles and 2nd pick for Marc Gasol.
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Post#1836 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:59 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
JCP11 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:I actually think Sabonis makes sense for the Raps, but it needs to be a 3 team, with the Kings routing Poeltl elsewhere, as he’s too old for a rebuild, and too good to the point of hindering a tank.
Kings will probably ask for CMB. Raps can counter.


Sabonis is interesting for Toronto as a better floor spacer and scoring partner, which aligns well with Scottie. You lose post defense, so you hope to retain CMB.



Rerouting spots for Poeltl include GSW (Kuminga) and BOS (Simons + ‘27 1st, lotto prot.)



The GSW trade is:

SAC: RJ, Kuminga, TOR ‘26 1st, 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
GSW: Poeltl



The BOS trade is:
SAC: RJ, Simons, TOR ‘26 1st, BOS ‘27 1st (non lotto), 2 2nds (LAL ‘26, TOR ‘27)
TOR: Sabonis
BOS: Poeltl
^SAC needs follow up trades to unload vet guards.






New rotation:

IQ / Ochai / Ingram / Scottie / Sabonis
Shead / Jakobe / Dick / CMB / Mamu



Ochai is the X factor, I think they see hope him in as a 3+D.
Sabonis is not what they need, you can win in the regular season with him but he gets exposed in the playoffs. If your goal is to win it all, as it should, this is a pass.


Well you're not gonna win with RJ and Poeltl, tbh.

Sabonis is good at Scoring, Floor spacing, rebounding, and playmaking from C. He's a top 3 rebounder in the league, and will allow Scottie to become a super roamer, which is his natural role.

I agree that Sabonis' defense is weak. That's why you have guys like Scottie + CMB + Ochai on the roster.

In an ideal world, you pair Scottie with a prime Myles Turner and Jrue Holiday, but that's not on the table, and Sabonis will likely be.

As much as I like Sabonis (to watch), he is not a guy you can even possibly think about acquiring.

His defence is just bad. You simply can't have bad defensive play at the 5 and have any chance in being a serious team in the NBA.

I shudder to imagine teams putting Ingram/Sabonis in a 3/5 PnR.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1837 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Nov 13, 2025 4:00 pm

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CazOnReal wrote:Saw this elsewhere, what do we think of this? Irrespective of whether it's a realistic package or not. The trade can't be fulfilled until January but it's otherwise legal.

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If AD doesn't want to play C then is Scottie going to play C?

I feel like the Raptors don't need to make such a huge deal, just one that consolidates and makes the rotation clearer and stronger, like JV, CJ Miles and 2nd pick for Marc Gasol.

FWIW it was also Delon who was a young piece who was probably somewhere between Jakobe and Dick in terms of value.

The equivalent of that deal would be like Poeltl, Walter, Mamu, and a 2nd for a mid 30s win now piece. Why would we do that?
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1838 » by Spida888 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:12 pm

CazOnReal wrote:Saw this elsewhere, what do we think of this? Irrespective of whether it's a realistic package or not. The trade can't be fulfilled until January but it's otherwise legal.

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If we don't need to include any picks and AD can actually play this year close to what he looked like in the past, then yes. However, it will probably take pick(s) which I would be against because he can easily be injured again.

A starting line up of IQ, Ochai, Ingram, Scottie, AD should in theory make a significant defensive difference.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1839 » by sidsid » Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:32 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Psubs wrote:
CazOnReal wrote:Saw this elsewhere, what do we think of this? Irrespective of whether it's a realistic package or not. The trade can't be fulfilled until January but it's otherwise legal.

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If AD doesn't want to play C then is Scottie going to play C?

I feel like the Raptors don't need to make such a huge deal, just one that consolidates and makes the rotation clearer and stronger, like JV, CJ Miles and 2nd pick for Marc Gasol.

FWIW it was also Delon who was a young piece who was probably somewhere between Jakobe and Dick in terms of value.

The equivalent of that deal would be like Poeltl, Walter, Mamu, and a 2nd for a mid 30s win now piece. Why would we do that?
.

We were in the mix for Durant in his late 30s this summer, with CMB (9th pick turnout) in the deal.

This is very much the type of deal the FO wants to make. Not necessarily break the bank, but add talent with plenty of risks as the acceptable cost for the "bargain". It's a bad idea, has been for a while (it's how we got BI), but it's what they want to do.

Tried looking at other ways to expand the deals to maybe get Gafford or something as spacing depth, but including either BI or IQ creates too many holes and contract problems. Think it would just be a base deal for AD with Jak/RJ and picks/small cap prospects.

On AD playing C: regular season to save wear and tear is fine to move him down, but he knows what wins in the playoffs
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#1840 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Nov 13, 2025 6:54 pm

sidsid wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Psubs wrote:
If AD doesn't want to play C then is Scottie going to play C?

I feel like the Raptors don't need to make such a huge deal, just one that consolidates and makes the rotation clearer and stronger, like JV, CJ Miles and 2nd pick for Marc Gasol.

FWIW it was also Delon who was a young piece who was probably somewhere between Jakobe and Dick in terms of value.

The equivalent of that deal would be like Poeltl, Walter, Mamu, and a 2nd for a mid 30s win now piece. Why would we do that?
.

We were in the mix for Durant in his late 30s this summer, with CMB (9th pick turnout) in the deal.

This is very much the type of deal the FO wants to make. Not necessarily break the bank, but add talent with plenty of risks as the acceptable cost for the "bargain". It's a bad idea, has been for a while (it's how we got BI), but it's what they want to do.

Tried looking at other ways to expand the deals to maybe get Gafford or something as spacing depth, but including either BI or IQ creates too many holes and contract problems. Think it would just be a base deal for AD with Jak/RJ and picks/small cap prospects.

On AD playing C: regular season to save wear and tear is fine to move him down, but he knows what wins in the playoffs

Were we in on KD? I do nog necessarily think just because a report comes out from “insiders” it’s true.

I also don’t think you can say it’s a bad idea and point to BI why.

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