Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition

[KGdaBom]

DAL IN: Gobert, Niang (exp), Love (exp)
DAL OUT: AD

Why for DAL: get starting C, trade AD contract

UTA IN: AD, Miller
UTA OUT: Nurkic(exp), Kyle Anderson (2026-27 non guaranteed), Kessler

Why for UTA: try to re-build AD value and trade in 2027-28? It looks like Nurkic does not have any value, and Kessler is injured

MIN IN: Nurkic(exp), Kyle Anderson (2026-27 non guaranteed), Kessler
MIN OUT: Gobert, Miller

Why for MIN: create some room to re-sign Kessler and more importantly Clark next summer, if TC can manage then re-sign all three Kessler, Clark and Anderson and stay under 1st apron.

Next year:

Kessler/Beringer + Zikarsky
Randle/Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/TJ/Anderson + Juzang
Edwards/Clark/DDV
DDV/Dillingham/Anderson

+ 2026 FRP

P.S. At 33 yrs, is Anderson next year a vetmin player?

Why would your team punt on the season?

Yep. It's an absolute punt play. I'm not in favor of it.

[shrink]

I think there is a decent chance we add Kyle Anderson, but it won’t be until after the deadline.

The Jazz could have a ton of cap space next year, particularly if they trade Lauri Markkanen, but free agents won’t be flocking to the state of Utah. The better game plan for the Jazz is to trade expirings to teams needing payroll relief under the second apron, and getting picks and prospects to join their young players. SloMo has no real value to them right now, other than as matching salary. I expect the Jazz to trade him elsewhere, and there is a decent chance he simply gets bought out. And unlike virtually any other buy out candidate, I think he’d love to come back here.

Anderson brings his own share of problems with court spacing, but his odd game simultaneously fills two of our biggest needs - playmaking and a defensive big. Add in that he already knows how to play with these players, in a Finch system, and he would be a terrific pick up. It’s unfortunate that we can’t afford his $9.2 mil salary right now because we could use him immediately, but he would be a godsend to pick up on the vet min for the playoff stretch.

[Wolveswin]

Guess it comes down to who else they could get for expiring contracts. Richards instead of Williams is probably more realistic.

I just don't see why they'd target DDV. They have too many wings as it is.

Booker
Allen
O'Neale
Brooks
Dunn
Green will eventually be back too.

Gobert/Dilly

FOR

Green/M. Williams

Wolves take a step back from Gobert to Williams (but younger and still with upside) to try Green next to Edwards.

M.Williams/Reid/Beringer
Randle/Reid/McDaniels
McDaniels/Edwards/TSJ
Edwards/Green/DDV* shop for a backup C
Green/Conley/Bones

[Note30]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

[Klomp]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

Trade out two PGs, get back none?

[Note30]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

Trade out two PGs, get back none?

Monk can play point. But also, who cares, it's not like we're suddenly going to change our scheme.

[BlacJacMac]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

I'm trying to wrap my head around this one.

I like Monk as a secondary ballhandler/creator. He's an OK shooter, but he doesn't help our defense. We'd have to start DeRozan I guess. I don't see him happy coming off the bench. Do he and Jaden fight it out to be 3rd option? Coulibilaly doesn't appear to do anything at the NBA level.

Sabonis and Reid is a disaster in the front court. As is LaVine and DDV in the backcourt. I guess if they move Sabonis and Zach, they can build around Reid and Dilly? And I don't see SAC giving up their first to dump the less egregious bad salaries on their roster...

Washington probably doesn't take on 2 years of Schroeder for picks.

[BlacJacMac]

I know some people still want to trade for Trae.

Atlanta is 6-2 without him and 1-3 with him this year.

Its tough to win when a single player can absolutely crater your defense by being in the game.

[TimberKat]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

I'm trying to wrap my head around this one.

I like Monk as a secondary ballhandler/creator. He's an OK shooter, but he doesn't help our defense. We'd have to start DeRozan I guess. I don't see him happy coming off the bench. Do he and Jaden fight it out to be 3rd option? Coulibilaly doesn't appear to do anything at the NBA level.

Sabonis and Reid is a disaster in the front court. As is LaVine and DDV in the backcourt. I guess if they move Sabonis and Zach, they can build around Reid and Dilly? And I don't see SAC giving up their first to dump the less egregious bad salaries on their roster...

Washington probably doesn't take on 2 years of Schroeder for picks.

Not a fan of the return. DeRozan is as old as Conley (figuratively speaking), Monk's best days maybe behind him. Coulibilaly is a taller version of Dillingham in a bad way. However, do like the idea of sending those guys out for a solid starter at least of Dejounte Murray level. That is 49Mil of salary to work with - Ja type money.

[Neeva]

Dejounte Murray isn’t solid though, he’s way overpaid, injury prone and just and has questionable personality off the court.

[m2002brian]

Keyonte George would be sweet. Dude can hoop.

[Klomp]

There's definite risk with Murray, but he might present the most cost-effective route to upgrading at PG if that is a priority.

I would feel bad for sending Naz Reid and Donte DiVincenzo to New Orleans, though....

[Neeva]

There's definite risk with Murray, but he might present the most cost-effective route to upgrading at PG if that is a priority.

I would feel bad for sending Naz Reid and Donte DiVincenzo to New Orleans, though....

What’s the incentive for the wolves then? Nola doesn’t own their 2026 , why are they taking the risk with Murray coming off a serious injury, Pelicans need to send real value.

[Neeva]

Keyonte George would be sweet. Dude can hoop.

He looks like dlo-light whenever I’ve seen him.

[Klomp]

There's definite risk with Murray, but he might present the most cost-effective route to upgrading at PG if that is a priority.

I would feel bad for sending Naz Reid and Donte DiVincenzo to New Orleans, though....

What’s the incentive for the wolves then? Nola doesn’t own their 2026 , why are they taking the risk with Murray coming off a serious injury, Pelicans need to send real value.

Because if he's healthy, getting a Top 30ish player at PG who has also made an all-defense team without trading away any of your top four players.

[BlacJacMac]

There's definite risk with Murray, but he might present the most cost-effective route to upgrading at PG if that is a priority.

I would feel bad for sending Naz Reid and Donte DiVincenzo to New Orleans, though....

What’s the incentive for the wolves then? Nola doesn’t own their 2026 , why are they taking the risk with Murray coming off a serious injury, Pelicans need to send real value.

Because if he's healthy, getting a Top 30ish player at PG who has also made an all-defense team without trading away any of your top four players.

I don't believe he's even a Top 50ish player at this point. And that All Defense team was 9 years ago.

I don't think he's even been a positive on defense since he left the Spurs 5 years ago.

[minimus]

I don't believe he's even a Top 50ish player at this point. And that All Defense team was 9 years ago.

I don't think he's even been a positive on defense since he left the Spurs 5 years ago.

NAW looks better in defense than Murray. Maybe in offense as well.

[fattymcgee]

MIN Out: Reid, Divencenzo, Conley, Dillingham
MIN In: DeRozan, Monk, Coulibilaly

SAC out: DeRozan, Monk, Schroeder
SAC in: Reid, DDV, Kispert, Dillingham

WAS Out: Kispert, Coulibilaly
WAS IN: Conley, Schroeder, 26 1st, 27 2nd

Trade out two PGs, get back none?

Monk can play point. But also, who cares, it's not like we're suddenly going to change our scheme.

We desperately need another pg and you want to trade away the ONLY pg's we have and run with ZERO pg's?
Makes sense.

[TimberKat]

Keyonte George would be sweet. Dude can hoop.

He looks like dlo-light whenever I’ve seen him.

Does that mean he move faster/quicker than DLo

He is one of Wolves' pick too. Why do we keep wanting all our pick guys back anyway - Walker, Keynote, Markkanen, and Kuminga. They aren't great players for the value. Is there a deeper psychological reason ?

[Loaf_of_bread]

Some of these Gobert trades are pretty ridiculous. We have no backup center, and are pretty bad when Gobert isn't on the floor. Yet, proposing trading him with no center coming back. You guys are funny.