How long before some on this board start calling for Scottie trade to free up PT for CMB?

[PushDaRock]

The top 5 posters on there

I usually skip over such nonsensical thread, so I haven't read through this one much. But what does your screenshot of the top posters imply? Were they in favor of trading Scottie?

Yes, for Giannis

[Tha Cynic]

The top 5 posters on there

I usually skip over such nonsensical thread, so I haven't read through this one much. But what does your screenshot of the top posters imply? Were they in favor of trading Scottie?

have you not read their posts in other threads?

if not, you probably should. great basketball minds imo.

Typically the posters you have listed here at the top are very heavy focused on how efficient and how well a player scorers. So a lot of the posting will be based on whether or not he looked great scoring. It’s obviously important but we knew when Barnes was drafted that he wasn’t expected to be an elite scorer. Our hope was that he would develop into that but it doesnt happen often.

What we do have is a high impact player who’s ability to be involved in important parts of both sides of the ball on most possessions. He’s very good at that second assist. He almost looks bored or annoyed out there sometimes because he would have made a different decision than what was made. His ability to think on the court had always been great but it looks like it has taken another step.

If he could ever get his stamina up which imo has always been his biggest issue, he would be pretty consistent as a dominant force on both sides, but we’re into year 5 and that stamina probably won’t get to that level. Of course he also moves like a 35 year old sometimes but the way he plays the game kind of makes up for that.

He’s a winning player and he has always shown that. You don’t trade guys like that lol. This thread is just flat out stupid

[YogurtProducer]

The top 5 posters on there

I usually skip over such nonsensical thread, so I haven't read through this one much. But what does your screenshot of the top posters imply? Were they in favor of trading Scottie?

I don’t even remember what I did or didn’t say, but it certainly wasn’t “trade Scottie at all costs he sucks”.

As usual, people cherry pick comments to pile on.

I’m hyped the guys playing well. That’s all that really I care about now

[wegotthabeet]

Is it too late yet?

[DelAbbot]

Now don't give this crap about it's only one preseason game, I don't want to hear it. We now have years of data on our "franchise" player.

Watching Ingram play brings tears to my eyes, and I'm not even an emotional person. This is what a franchise player looks like. Scottie is just a maxed out role player at this point. We need to trade him and get what we can before he becomes another Gary Trent.

Discuss.

Which mod did you pay to merge your thread on trading Scottie Barnes? I was waiting to bump it when Scottie makes All-Star game. But now it's buried deep in bluerap23's thread.

NinjaBro is undefeated

[YogurtProducer]

The top 5 posters on there

I usually skip over such nonsensical thread, so I haven't read through this one much. But what does your screenshot of the top posters imply? Were they in favor of trading Scottie?

I don’t even remember what I did or didn’t say, but it certainly wasn’t “trade Scottie at all costs he sucks”.

As usual, people cherry pick comments to pile on.

I’m hyped the guys playing well. That’s all that really I care about now

FWIW - I went back and read the thread and had my posts quoted, and then RealGM crashed on my mobile.

But in summary I said stuff like:

- If CMB is Scottie 2.0 you should trade Scottie IF (IF!!!) you get an elite player back
- I worried that Scottie’s growth is finished, and that if we could cash out at a good price we should listen
- trades id like would have been a Sabonis / Halliburton type thing if you could get a young up and coming stud who fits us better (so, Barnes for a young stud guard really)
- I said his offense historically has been a net negative (not untrue)
- I also said things like I’d be happy if he even was a 15/8/6 type guy with elite defence, and my #1 concern I expressed multiple times was his tendency to float in and out of games and lack effort. IIRC, I said that 15/8/6 with good effort consistently is a “hell of a player”.
- then Moneyball argued with me if ORTG or another box score stat was actually a box score stat or not (spoiler - it still is lol).

So no - I never advocated we trade Scottie. I said we do it for an elite player, or a stud younger player at a position of need

And then this year so far he’s improve on pretty much every grievance I had with the guy and I’m happy to see the growth. I’m not a guy who has to much pride to admit I was wrong, and Scottie is giving the effort in a way I wa uncertain he ever woukd. Granted, 11 games, lots of season left, but great early returns.

[anotherhomer]

I usually skip over such nonsensical thread, so I haven't read through this one much. But what does your screenshot of the top posters imply? Were they in favor of trading Scottie?

I don’t even remember what I did or didn’t say, but it certainly wasn’t “trade Scottie at all costs he sucks”.

As usual, people cherry pick comments to pile on.

I’m hyped the guys playing well. That’s all that really I care about now

FWIW - I went back and read the thread and had my posts quoted, and then RealGM crashed on my mobile.

But in summary I said stuff like:

- If CMB is Scottie 2.0 you should trade Scottie IF (IF!!!) you get an elite player back
- I worried that Scottie’s growth is finished, and that if we could cash out at a good price we should listen
- trades id like would have been a Sabonis / Halliburton type thing if you could get a young up and coming stud who fits us better (so, Barnes for a young stud guard really)
- I said his offense historically has been a net negative (not untrue)
- I also said things like I’d be happy if he even was a 15/8/6 type guy with elite defence, and my #1 concern I expressed multiple times was his tendency to float in and out of games and lack effort. IIRC, I said that 15/8/6 with good effort consistently is a “hell of a player”.
- then Moneyball argued with me if ORTG or another box score stat was actually a box score stat or not (spoiler - it still is lol).

So no - I never advocated we trade Scottie. I said we do it for an elite player, or a stud younger player at a position of need

And then this year so far he’s improve on pretty much every grievance I had with the guy and I’m happy to see the growth. I’m not a guy who has to much pride to admit I was wrong, and Scottie is giving the effort in a way I wa uncertain he ever woukd. Granted, 11 games, lots of season left, but great early returns.

Yes, if CMB is a less athletic, less talented but more consistent version of Scottie, then yes do trade Scottie for that young talented PG or PG
However, i do not know of such a player that's available.

[YogurtProducer]

I don’t even remember what I did or didn’t say, but it certainly wasn’t “trade Scottie at all costs he sucks”.

As usual, people cherry pick comments to pile on.

I’m hyped the guys playing well. That’s all that really I care about now

FWIW - I went back and read the thread and had my posts quoted, and then RealGM crashed on my mobile.

But in summary I said stuff like:

- If CMB is Scottie 2.0 you should trade Scottie IF (IF!!!) you get an elite player back
- I worried that Scottie’s growth is finished, and that if we could cash out at a good price we should listen
- trades id like would have been a Sabonis / Halliburton type thing if you could get a young up and coming stud who fits us better (so, Barnes for a young stud guard really)
- I said his offense historically has been a net negative (not untrue)
- I also said things like I’d be happy if he even was a 15/8/6 type guy with elite defence, and my #1 concern I expressed multiple times was his tendency to float in and out of games and lack effort. IIRC, I said that 15/8/6 with good effort consistently is a “hell of a player”.
- then Moneyball argued with me if ORTG or another box score stat was actually a box score stat or not (spoiler - it still is lol).

So no - I never advocated we trade Scottie. I said we do it for an elite player, or a stud younger player at a position of need

And then this year so far he’s improve on pretty much every grievance I had with the guy and I’m happy to see the growth. I’m not a guy who has to much pride to admit I was wrong, and Scottie is giving the effort in a way I wa uncertain he ever woukd. Granted, 11 games, lots of season left, but great early returns.

Yes, if CMB is a less athletic, less talented but more consistent version of Scottie, then yes do trade Scottie for that young talented PG or PG
However, i do not know of such a player that's available.

Yeah exactly. It’s why I said he isn’t untouchable but you’re not actively looking to move him either.

But in theory if CMB is showing out so much you think he can give you 80% of what Scottie does, and you can flip Scottie for a stud 2 guard? It’s a conversation you gotta at least have.

But like you said, those don’t exactly just grow on trees.

[anotherhomer]

FWIW - I went back and read the thread and had my posts quoted, and then RealGM crashed on my mobile.

But in summary I said stuff like:

- If CMB is Scottie 2.0 you should trade Scottie IF (IF!!!) you get an elite player back
- I worried that Scottie’s growth is finished, and that if we could cash out at a good price we should listen
- trades id like would have been a Sabonis / Halliburton type thing if you could get a young up and coming stud who fits us better (so, Barnes for a young stud guard really)
- I said his offense historically has been a net negative (not untrue)
- I also said things like I’d be happy if he even was a 15/8/6 type guy with elite defence, and my #1 concern I expressed multiple times was his tendency to float in and out of games and lack effort. IIRC, I said that 15/8/6 with good effort consistently is a “hell of a player”.
- then Moneyball argued with me if ORTG or another box score stat was actually a box score stat or not (spoiler - it still is lol).

So no - I never advocated we trade Scottie. I said we do it for an elite player, or a stud younger player at a position of need

And then this year so far he’s improve on pretty much every grievance I had with the guy and I’m happy to see the growth. I’m not a guy who has to much pride to admit I was wrong, and Scottie is giving the effort in a way I wa uncertain he ever woukd. Granted, 11 games, lots of season left, but great early returns.

Yes, if CMB is a less athletic, less talented but more consistent version of Scottie, then yes do trade Scottie for that young talented PG or PG
However, i do not know of such a player that's available.

Yeah exactly. It’s why I said he isn’t untouchable but you’re not actively looking to move him either.

But in theory if CMB is showing out so much you think he can give you 80% of what Scottie does, and you can flip Scottie for a stud 2 guard? It’s a conversation you gotta at least have.

But like you said, those don’t exactly just grow on trees.

For example, would both raps and Spurs do this trade:

Raps :Barnes, Mogbo
Spurs: Keldon Johnson, Sochan and Dylan Harper

The type of consolidation trade Spurs make. Spurs get there SF/PF, deal with the Fox/Castle logjam.
Raps get Dylan....

Raps roster:
PG: IQ, Shead
SG: Dylan, RJ, Jaobe, Ochai
SF: Ingram, Keldon Johnson
PF: CMB, Sochan
C: Poetl, Sandro

Spurs:
PG: DeAaron Fox, Jordan
SG: Stephon Castle, , Devin Vassel, Lindy Waters
SF: harrison Barnes, Carter Bryant
PF: Scottie Barnes, Julian, Mogbo
C: Victor Wemby, Luke Kornet, Kelly Olynk

I have no idea Spurs thinking here though

[YogurtProducer]

Yes, if CMB is a less athletic, less talented but more consistent version of Scottie, then yes do trade Scottie for that young talented PG or PG
However, i do not know of such a player that's available.

Yeah exactly. It’s why I said he isn’t untouchable but you’re not actively looking to move him either.

But in theory if CMB is showing out so much you think he can give you 80% of what Scottie does, and you can flip Scottie for a stud 2 guard? It’s a conversation you gotta at least have.

But like you said, those don’t exactly just grow on trees.

For example, would both raps and Spurs do this trade:

Raps :Barnes, Mogbo
Spurs: Keldon Johnson, Sochan and Dylan Harper

The type of consolidation trade Spurs make. Spurs get there SF/PF, deal with the Fox/Castle logjam.
Raps get Dylan....

Raps roster:
PG: IQ, Shead
SG: Dylan, RJ, Jaobe, Ochai
SF: Ingram, Keldon Johnson
PF: CMB, Sochan
C: Poetl, Sandro

Spurs:
PG: DeAaron Fox, Jordan
SG: Stephon Castle, , Devin Vassel, Lindy Waters
SF: harrison Barnes, Carter Bryant
PF: Scottie Barnes, Julian, Mogbo
C: Victor Wemby, Luke Kornet, Kelly Olynk

I have no idea Spurs thinking here though

Barnes/Wemby defensively is a gross 4/5 pairing

[anotherhomer]

that said, super risky trade. Could cost Bobby his job though

[LarSiN]

Classic Thread!

[YogurtProducer]

that said, super risky trade. Could cost Bobby his job though

Type of deal you are more interested in if we are 25-30 or something. Not when you're 6-1 in your last 7 and have a realistic chance 6-8 wins in your next 10 games.

[anotherhomer]

that said, super risky trade. Could cost Bobby his job though

Type of deal you are more interested in if we are 25-30 or something. Not when you're 6-1 in your last 7 and have a realistic chance 6-8 wins in your next 10 games.

i agree....if the team continue to take advantage of the weaker schedule, and are like .600 then ya, makes very little sense to rock the boat....

However, i am down for a CMB for Cason Wallace deal if OKC wanted to do that

[Mr Funk]

Joke of a thread. Casuals.

[KP730]

Joke of a thread. Casuals.

guys in this thread comparing Scottie to Gary Trent Jr….

like what are we even watching here?

[WuTang_CMB]

Lol. wtf

[bluerap23]

Yo - who changed the title of this thread? That is some BS. I started this thread to call out the infatuation that posters have with the newest shiny object. I was making the point that Scottie is a real one and it now looks like I started a thread asking for Scottie to be traded which I have NEVER done.

[Spida888]

Yo - who changed the title of this thread? That is some BS. I started this thread to call out the infatuation that posters have with the newest shiny object. I was making the point that Scottie is a real one and it now looks like I started a thread asking for Scottie to be traded which I have NEVER done.

It might have been merged with other thread(s). This may have been the start of the other thread viewtopic.php?f=32&p=119735220#p119735220.

[DelAbbot]

Yo - who changed the title of this thread? That is some BS. I started this thread to call out the infatuation that posters have with the newest shiny object. I was making the point that Scottie is a real one and it now looks like I started a thread asking for Scottie to be traded which I have NEVER done.

It might have been merged with other thread(s). This may have been the start of the other thread viewtopic.php?f=32&p=119735220#p119735220.

Thank you! I was looking for this yesterday!!

I shall screencap and put it in the Hall of Fame of NinjaBro posts