Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[Celts17Pride]

Chicago: AD and Scheierman
Dallas: Vucevic, Huerter, Simons and 2026 Portland 1st (1-14 protected) from Chicago, 2031 Chicago 2nd round pick
Boston: Gafford, Dosunmu, Carter

Chicago gets potential all-star AD and young wing backup Scheierman

Boston gets a potential starting center moving forward, saves $1.5 million this year

Dallas starts the rebuild with Flagg, gets all expring contracts, reduces payroll $1.3 million this year and $75 million next year and gets a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I personally think the Cooper Flagg era is about to start in Dallas. What I mean by that is Dallas is building around Cooper Flagg and are going to move AD and Kyrie. Now I don't think the Celtics are going to be interested in either Kyrie or AD but Simons sizeable expiring contract plus others sets the Celtics up nicely to be a 3rd team. I would keep an eye rumors to where AD and Kyrie could be going.

Honestly I could see the Celtics being a 3rd team in a Kings deal (Sabonis, LaVine etc.), Memphis deal (Morant?) or Dallas deal (Kyrie, AD) and not receiving any of those players.

I can see Boston getting involved in a deal with Chicago and Dallas where AD goes to Chicago and Chicago trades guys like Jalen Smith and Jevon Carter to Boston, while Simons gets dealt to Dallas... Several other players and picks would need to be included to make the money work, but Boston would basically take on Smiths' 2026-27 contract of $9.4 million and Smith seems like a useful big man, who can shoot 3's...

[Celts17Pride]

I personally think the Cooper Flagg era is about to start in Dallas. What I mean by that is Dallas is building around Cooper Flagg and are going to move AD and Kyrie. Now I don't think the Celtics are going to be interested in either Kyrie or AD but Simons sizeable expiring contract plus others sets the Celtics up nicely to be a 3rd team. I would keep an eye rumors to where AD and Kyrie could be going.

Honestly I could see the Celtics being a 3rd team in a Kings deal (Sabonis, LaVine etc.), Memphis deal (Morant?) or Dallas deal (Kyrie, AD) and not receiving any of those players.

I can see Boston getting involved in a deal with Chicago and Dallas where AD goes to Chicago and Chicago trades guys like Jalen Smith and Jevon Carter to Boston, while Simons gets dealt to Dallas... Several other players and picks would need to be included to make the money work, but Boston would basically take on Smiths' 2026-27 contract of $9.4 million and Smith seems like a useful big man, who can shoot 3's...

I think there may be something there but I don't know what it is.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Chicago: AD and Scheierman
Dallas: Vucevic, Huerter, Simons and 2026 Portland 1st (1-14 protected) from Chicago, 2031 Chicago 2nd round pick
Boston: Gafford, Dosunmu, Carter

Chicago gets potential all-star AD and young wing backup Scheierman

Boston gets a potential starting center moving forward, saves $1.5 million this year

Dallas starts the rebuild with Flagg, gets all expring contracts, reduces payroll $1.3 million this year and $75 million next year and gets a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

I think Chicago keeps Vuc and trades off Zach Collins $18 mil. expiring instead.. Perhaps something like this could happen...

Chicago: AD, Klay & Tillman
Dallas: Simons, Collins, Huerter, Noa Essengue, Scheierman, CHI FRP...
Boston: Jalen Smith, Jevon Carter, Dwight Powell

[Celts17Pride]

Chicago: AD and Scheierman
Dallas: Vucevic, Huerter, Simons and 2026 Portland 1st (1-14 protected) from Chicago, 2031 Chicago 2nd round pick
Boston: Gafford, Dosunmu, Carter

Chicago gets potential all-star AD and young wing backup Scheierman

Boston gets a potential starting center moving forward, saves $1.5 million this year

Dallas starts the rebuild with Flagg, gets all expring contracts, reduces payroll $1.3 million this year and $75 million next year and gets a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

I think Chicago keeps Vuc and trades off Zach Collins $18 mil. expiring instead.. Perhaps something like this could happen...

Chicago: AD, Klay & Tillman
Dallas: Simons, Collins, Huerter, Noa Essengue, Scheierman, CHI FRP...
Boston: Jalen Smith, Jevon Carter, Dwight Powell

Honestly, don't even know if Chicago wants AD.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Chicago: AD and Scheierman
Dallas: Vucevic, Huerter, Simons and 2026 Portland 1st (1-14 protected) from Chicago, 2031 Chicago 2nd round pick
Boston: Gafford, Dosunmu, Carter

Chicago gets potential all-star AD and young wing backup Scheierman

Boston gets a potential starting center moving forward, saves $1.5 million this year

Dallas starts the rebuild with Flagg, gets all expring contracts, reduces payroll $1.3 million this year and $75 million next year and gets a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

I think Chicago keeps Vuc and trades off Zach Collins $18 mil. expiring instead.. Perhaps something like this could happen...

Chicago: AD, Klay & Tillman
Dallas: Simons, Collins, Huerter, Noa Essengue, Scheierman, CHI FRP...
Boston: Jalen Smith, Jevon Carter, Dwight Powell

Honestly, don't even know if Chicago wants AD.

ok

[Celts17Pride]

Honestly, Hawks should be forcing themselves into any 3 team trade for AD by offering Trae Young to anybody. Hawks 7-3 without Trae Young this year and Hawks had a better record last year in games that he missed. I think someone in Atlanta is finally catching on.

Kings and Trae Young seem like a match made in heaven.

[djFan71]

Chicago: AD and Scheierman
Dallas: Vucevic, Huerter, Simons and 2026 Portland 1st (1-14 protected) from Chicago, 2031 Chicago 2nd round pick
Boston: Gafford, Dosunmu, Carter

Chicago gets potential all-star AD and young wing backup Scheierman

Boston gets a potential starting center moving forward, saves $1.5 million this year

Dallas starts the rebuild with Flagg, gets all expring contracts, reduces payroll $1.3 million this year and $75 million next year and gets a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick.

I think Chicago keeps Vuc and trades off Zach Collins $18 mil. expiring instead.. Perhaps something like this could happen...

Chicago: AD, Klay & Tillman
Dallas: Simons, Collins, Huerter, Noa Essengue, Scheierman, CHI FRP...
Boston: Jalen Smith, Jevon Carter, Dwight Powell

Honestly, don't even know if Chicago wants AD.

I'd jump on either of these, but I think we're getting too good a deal. I don't think Simons/Baylor nets you salary savings and useful bigs unfortunately. Happy to be wrong.

[Fierce1]

I think Chicago keeps Vuc and trades off Zach Collins $18 mil. expiring instead.. Perhaps something like this could happen...

Chicago: AD, Klay & Tillman
Dallas: Simons, Collins, Huerter, Noa Essengue, Scheierman, CHI FRP...
Boston: Jalen Smith, Jevon Carter, Dwight Powell

Honestly, don't even know if Chicago wants AD.

I'd jump on either of these, but I think we're getting too good a deal. I don't think Simons/Baylor nets you salary savings and useful bigs unfortunately. Happy to be wrong.

There's the scenario that teams that want to blow it up will want an expiring contract.

For example, the Kings still owe DeRozan 25.7m next season.
If the Kings are going to blow it up then Simons for DeRozan will be good for the Kings as it gets them off the hook from DeRozan's 25.7m next season.

[djFan71]

Honestly, don't even know if Chicago wants AD.

I'd jump on either of these, but I think we're getting too good a deal. I don't think Simons/Baylor nets you salary savings and useful bigs unfortunately. Happy to be wrong.

There's the scenario that teams that want to blow it up will want an expiring contract.

For example, the Kings still owe DeRozan 25.7m next season.
If the Kings are going to blow it up then Simons for DeRozan will be good for the Kings as it gets them off the hook from DeRozan's 25.7m next season.

Sure. I was replying to the specific deals I quoted, not every possible trade.

[Fierce1]

I'd jump on either of these, but I think we're getting too good a deal. I don't think Simons/Baylor nets you salary savings and useful bigs unfortunately. Happy to be wrong.

There's the scenario that teams that want to blow it up will want an expiring contract.

For example, the Kings still owe DeRozan 25.7m next season.
If the Kings are going to blow it up then Simons for DeRozan will be good for the Kings as it gets them off the hook from DeRozan's 25.7m next season.

Sure. I was replying to the specific deals I quoted, not every possible trade.

Simons and Sam for Rob and Vuc and Cs still save 3m.

[djFan71]

There's the scenario that teams that want to blow it up will want an expiring contract.

For example, the Kings still owe DeRozan 25.7m next season.
If the Kings are going to blow it up then Simons for DeRozan will be good for the Kings as it gets them off the hook from DeRozan's 25.7m next season.

Sure. I was replying to the specific deals I quoted, not every possible trade.

Simons and Sam for Rob and Vuc and Cs still save 3m.

Sure, but again, not the trades I replied to. Not sure what we're doing here, lol.

[Fierce1]

Sure. I was replying to the specific deals I quoted, not every possible trade.

Simons and Sam for Rob and Vuc and Cs still save 3m.

Sure, but again, not the trades I replied to. Not sure what we're doing here, lol.

I'm just trying to convince you that there are better trade options for Simons.

[djFan71]

Simons and Sam for Rob and Vuc and Cs still save 3m.

Sure, but again, not the trades I replied to. Not sure what we're doing here, lol.

I'm just trying to convince you that there are better trade options for Simons.

I already know that. I proposed 1000s of them that you shot down back when you liked him.

[Fierce1]

Sure, but again, not the trades I replied to. Not sure what we're doing here, lol.

I'm just trying to convince you that there are better trade options for Simons.

I already know that. I proposed 1000s of them that you shot down back when you liked him.

I still like him, but not with the Celtics.

Joe is not using him properly.

And from what I learned the past 3 seasons, going against Joe won't work, especially now that it's looking like Joe will be Celtic coach for 6 more years.

Simons is being bottled up by limited playing time and fewer shot attempts.
That's not on Simons, that's on Joe.

[djFan71]

I'm just trying to convince you that there are better trade options for Simons.

I already know that. I proposed 1000s of them that you shot down back when you liked him.

I still like him, but not with the Celtics.

Joe is not using him properly.

And from what I learned the past 3 seasons, going against Joe won't work, especially now that it's looking like Joe will be Celtic coach for 6 more years.

Simons is being bottled up by limited playing time and fewer shot attempts.
That's not on Simons, that's on Joe.

Nah, that I disagree with. Joe's urging him to be aggressive. He'll lose time due to D, I give you that. The O you can't blame on Joe, he's not bottling him up. But it is a different system for Simons, so some level of finding where his shots come from is to be expected. He'll be better on offense by the deadline. Just in time.

[Fierce1]

I already know that. I proposed 1000s of them that you shot down back when you liked him.

I still like him, but not with the Celtics.

Joe is not using him properly.

And from what I learned the past 3 seasons, going against Joe won't work, especially now that it's looking like Joe will be Celtic coach for 6 more years.

Simons is being bottled up by limited playing time and fewer shot attempts.
That's not on Simons, that's on Joe.

Nah, that I disagree with. Joe's urging him to be aggressive. He'll lose time due to D, I give you that. The O you can't blame on Joe, he's not bottling him up. But it is a different system for Simons, so some level of finding where his shots come from is to be expected. He'll be better on offense by the deadline. Just in time.

Yeah, if the limited minutes is due to D then I agree with that.

But on offense, Joe should start him.
That's what I mean when Joe is not using him properly.
Simons should be ahead of PP on the depth chart.

You can also see with a bigger load to carry, White and PP are struggling shooting the ball.
Both of them are nowhere near where their shooting % was last season.

Simons on the other hand is still shooting 40% from 3, even with limited minutes and fewer shot attempts.

[Parliament10]

OK. So say we Trade Simons by the Deadline. What are we looking to get back?
Simons is a Guard that can handle the ball. Without him we just have White and Pritchard. That's not enough.

We need a Big, and a 3rd PG, without going up to 15 Players.

[Curmudgeon]

OK. So say we Trade Simons by the Deadline. What are we looking to get back?
Simons is a Guard that can handle the ball. Without him we just have White and Pritchard. That's not enough.

Simons can handle the ball? Since when? Gonzalez and Minott have better handles than Simons, and Delano Banton is currently a free agent. I would not mind bringing back Banton.

[djFan71]

OK. So say we Trade Simons by the Deadline. What are we looking to get back?
Simons is a Guard that can handle the ball. Without him we just have White and Pritchard. That's not enough.

Simons can handle the ball? Since when? Gonzalez and Minott have better handles than Simons, and Delano Banton is currently a free agent. I would not mind bringing back Banton.

I and1ed to soon before I go to the Banton part, lol. Was with you until then.