Cameron Boozer

[Dat2U]

I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.

[peZt]

He's literally just the modern version of his dad. Same movements, same strenghts, same weaknesses, same name

[Duke4life831]

He's just Kevin Love to me.

6'8-6'9 skilled big that plays below the rim and is a great rebounder.

That's just Kevin Love to me. Like Ive said before, I think Boozer is going to be elite in college, I think he will be an All American and a great shot at NPOY. So just to be clear, Im very very high on Boozer at the college level.

But the thing is, even if he is NPOY this year in college. The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA? And again, if we were still in the era of the classic PF, Im taking Boozer #1 even in this stacked draft. Because in that role, I think his floor is ridiculously high and his ceiling is high. But that classic PF has been put to extinction.

[babyjax13]

He's just Kevin Love to me.

6'8-6'9 skilled big that plays below the rim and is a great rebounder.

That's just Kevin Love to me. Like Ive said before, I think Boozer is going to be elite in college, I think he will be an All American and a great shot at NPOY. So just to be clear, Im very very high on Boozer at the college level.

But the thing is, even if he is NPOY this year in college. The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA? And again, if we were still in the era of the classic PF, Im taking Boozer #1 even in this stacked draft. Because in that role, I think his floor is ridiculously high and his ceiling is high. But that classic PF has been put to extinction.

I think we need to ask why it is extinct. Is it extinct because those players can't work in the NBA, or is it, in part, that some of those qualities are not as aesthetically pleasing and so the skillset has gone by the wayside?

I think it is a bit of both, and as long as Boozer's jumper improves he should have a long and productive career.

I'll also throw out one more possible comp? David West? I think Boozer is more athletic than West and bit more skilled, but some of their movement and the way that the score in the mid and low post are similar.

[Duke4life831]

He's just Kevin Love to me.

6'8-6'9 skilled big that plays below the rim and is a great rebounder.

That's just Kevin Love to me. Like Ive said before, I think Boozer is going to be elite in college, I think he will be an All American and a great shot at NPOY. So just to be clear, Im very very high on Boozer at the college level.

But the thing is, even if he is NPOY this year in college. The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA? And again, if we were still in the era of the classic PF, Im taking Boozer #1 even in this stacked draft. Because in that role, I think his floor is ridiculously high and his ceiling is high. But that classic PF has been put to extinction.

I think we need to ask why it is extinct. Is it extinct because those players can't work in the NBA, or is it, in part, that some of those qualities are not as aesthetically pleasing and so the skillset has gone by the wayside?

I think it is a bit of both, and as long as Boozer's jumper improves he should have a long and productive career.

I'll also throw out one more possible comp? David West? I think Boozer is more athletic than West and bit more skilled, but some of their movement and the way that the score in the mid and low post are similar.

I think it went extinct because that position basically manned the 18ft to low post spots. And teams basically don’t want that anymore because they want as much spacing as they can get.

I like the West comp, even though I think West was much much longer than Boozer. But ya similar builds and athleticism.

And ya to be clear, I will be very shocked if Boozer doesn’t end up having a long career. At minimum I think he carves out a Bobby Portis kind of career. Just a super solid big off the bench.

Just does he have star potential in today’s NBA? I think that is the big question with him because there haven’t been a star like him in the league, really since teams have fully gone with the 4 and 5 out perimeter oriented offenses

[clyde21]

I'm sticking with my Paolo comp, but I see K Love too, somewhere in between

[The-Power]

The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA?

But is he a classic PF when he has a 3pt shot and facilitates so well from all over the court? And does he play any more below-the-rim than your typical NBA PF?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It all comes down to whether or not he'll be able to defend and hit the three. If he can do those two things he's going to be extremely difficult to deal with, because that type of physical offense he plays will translate.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I don't think he's going to be a superstar mostly because of his personality and his game isn't sexy. But he'll put up great numbers and affect winning. Maybe not a season ticket seller by himself but someone helping his team get to the playoffs. There's really only a handful of superstars so that term and player's not being one really gets thrown around too much.

[The Master]

I think we need to ask why it is extinct. Is it extinct because those players can't work in the NBA, or is it, in part, that some of those qualities are not as aesthetically pleasing and so the skillset has gone by the wayside?

I think it is a bit of both, and as long as Boozer's jumper improves he should have a long and productive career.

It is extinct because space > low post scoring, and perimeter defense > low post defense and (perhaps) secondary rim protection. Thus, impact-wise, shooting + perimeter defense + size > low post scoring + low post defense + secondary rim protection.

That being said, Boozer is a guy who has high projection as a shooter, will easily punish smaller defenders and seems agile enough to be a neutral/solid perimeter defender for his position. And even if not an archetype of point forward, he's definitely a gifted passer. I totally don't see him as an example of this 'old style', guys like David West didn't have handles and passing to start their offense on perimeter nor they were shooting 3s.

I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.

This is probably the best comparison that I've seen in this thread, in terms of playing style. And Griffin had this season in Detroit where, despite not being any impressive athlete anymore, he was still an All-NBA player.

[King Ken]

He's literally just the modern version of his dad. Same movements, same strenghts, same weaknesses, same name

While this is partly true, he can PDS at an elite level for a 4. His feel for the game is also elite on both ends whereas his dad had a darn good feel for the game but it wasn't close to Cam.

The only thing his dad has is critical over Cam is screen quality and he always tagged. I want Cam get more tough and not just with the ball where he's plenty tough.

I think he's the best PF prospect to enter the NBA of all time unless you consider Tim Duncan to be a PF prospect. Best offensive 4 since Dirk and he's better at this stage than Dirk was. Defensively, he's not elite but he's good and even if his potential on that end is only good, he's still a superstar prospect.

Carmelo Anthony was a tremendous impact when he entered as a true freshman. That was probably the most impactful true freshman I've seen enter the NBA. Even more than Zion. Boozer is better than that. If Boozer wants to be a MVP in the NBA, he needs to become a better screener and tag like his daddy. He's not quick enough to slip as if he's a young John Collins.

To me, he's the best player in this class by a clear margin. Possession by possession, no one is close. Peterson is the most NBA ready. His skill set works RIGHT NOW in the NBA and you dont need to adjust anything to plug Darryn in. Peterson is super easy to plug in.

AJ is the most talented, gifted, blessed, and he is smart as a tact, has tremendous work ethic and his motor is like KG but his feel for the game and awareness is more like McGrady and KG at the same stage. He's not close to the feel that Peterson has which is out of this world for a true freshman or Boozer which is world class even at 18. I remember watching Melo in college like some people are just there already and he was just there already like Peterson.

I don't understand the worrying about Boozer upside. He's a lot better than Kon and Kon is killing folks in the league. Boozer is the best PDS big I've seen as a prospect. He doesn't have anywhere near the physical upside that Jokic has but he's miles better at 18. If someone thinks Boozer should go 1st overall, I won't argue against it.

This class is insane. Wilson is like a better scoring, Chris Bosh. He maybe even better. Neo, Mikel, and Flemings all have the makings of a multi time all star PG. We haven't even seen Q this year at Kentucky. Then you have the two high upside SFs in Lopez and Ament. This draft is loaded with high end role players so its not just top heavy either. You can get Mara, Yaxel, Cayden, or Sarr in the mid to late 1st. If I am Cayden or Acuff, I am returning and going to 2027 where I know the NBA is planning an expansion and I have more options to go high. To me, Philon, Acuff, and Cayden need to return for their sophomore or junior years. 2027 could have expansion teams and they could all go in the top 10 next year which is a lot like the 2024 NBA draft.

[threethehardway]

Cam's game is ugly.

I don't understand how someone can play in the 2020s and end up with a game as ugly as his.

It's like if a powerlifter wanted to become an NBA player. Even his jump shot is a mangled catapult mess.

His game reminds me of a Phoenix Charles Barkley, Detrior Blake Griffin and KSU Michael Beasley.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Cam's game is ugly.

I don't understand how someone can play in the 2020s and end up with a game as ugly as his.

It's like if a powerlifter wanted to become an NBA player. Even his jump shot is a mangled catapult mess.

His game reminds me of a Phoenix Charles Barkley, Detrior Blake Griffin and KSU Michael Beasley.

good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.

[tontoz]

47% TS against a team that doesn't suck.

[EmpireFalls]

Cam's game is ugly.

I don't understand how someone can play in the 2020s and end up with a game as ugly as his.

It's like if a powerlifter wanted to become an NBA player. Even his jump shot is a mangled catapult mess.

His game reminds me of a Phoenix Charles Barkley, Detrior Blake Griffin and KSU Michael Beasley.

good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.

If he even drops to 4 a team will trade the farm to move up and get him. If he’s outside the top 5 the NBA have lost their minds

[tontoz]

Cam's game is ugly.

I don't understand how someone can play in the 2020s and end up with a game as ugly as his.

It's like if a powerlifter wanted to become an NBA player. Even his jump shot is a mangled catapult mess.

His game reminds me of a Phoenix Charles Barkley, Detrior Blake Griffin and KSU Michael Beasley.

good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.

If he even drops to 4 a team will trade the farm to move up and get him. If he’s outside the top 5 the NBA have lost their minds

Why is that? Because of his high school acolades?

[Duke4life831]

Cam's game is ugly.

I don't understand how someone can play in the 2020s and end up with a game as ugly as his.

It's like if a powerlifter wanted to become an NBA player. Even his jump shot is a mangled catapult mess.

His game reminds me of a Phoenix Charles Barkley, Detrior Blake Griffin and KSU Michael Beasley.

good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.

If he even drops to 4 a team will trade the farm to move up and get him. If he’s outside the top 5 the NBA have lost their minds

Why have they lost their minds?

I’m not a Boozer hater, you can even say I’m a Boozer stan. Even after last night I think he’s going to be penciled in as a consensus All American as a freshman.

But the question is simple, who in the NBA with a similar archetype is a high impact player? Who is similar to Boozer who is racking in All NBA teams? No one in the last 5 years.

Boozer is your classic PF. He’s your strong 6’8-6’9 below the rim who’s an high level rebounder and his best part of his offensive game is working 15ft and in. Even if his 3pt shot gets consistent, okay we saw a classic PF with a 3pt shot in Kevin Love. We literally watched Kevin Love’s roll go extinct in his prime.

I’m extremely pumped to watch Boozer all year for Duke at the college level. I just don’t see anyone close to Boozer’s archetype making any kind of splash currently in the NBA.

To use another Duke guy as an example. How is this really any different than Okafor? Elite high school player, elite from day 1 in college. But by the time it came around to him playing in the NBA. All his comps were guys that were dominant in a different era. His style of play had become extinct in the NBA. The same has happened to the classic PF.

[ezhkw8u69e]

good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.

If he even drops to 4 a team will trade the farm to move up and get him. If he’s outside the top 5 the NBA have lost their minds

Why have they lost their minds?

I’m not a Boozer hater, you can even say I’m a Boozer stan. Even after last night I think he’s going to be penciled in as a consensus All American as a freshman.

But the question is simple, who in the NBA with a similar archetype is a high impact player? Who is similar to Boozer who is racking in All NBA teams? No one in the last 5 years.

Boozer is your classic PF. He’s your strong 6’8-6’9 below the rim who’s an high level rebounder and his best part of his offensive game is working 15ft and in. Even if his 3pt shot gets consistent, okay we saw a classic PF with a 3pt shot in Kevin Love. We literally watched Kevin Love’s roll go extinct in his prime.

I’m extremely pumped to watch Boozer all year for Duke at the college level. I just don’t see anyone close to Boozer’s archetype making any kind of splash currently in the NBA.

To use another Duke guy as an example. How is this really any different than Okafor? Elite high school player, elite from day 1 in college. But by the time it came around to him playing in the NBA. All his comps were guys that were dominant in a different era. His style of play had become extinct in the NBA. The same has happened to the classic PF.

It's funny you don't even use the very obvious example of his archetype which is his dad.

Of course Cam is better than his dad was at the same age, seems like a higher IQ version of his dad. For me it's really the body type that is the issue. It's kind of like Blake Griffin basically, but without the explosive leaping. I guess that's what you're hoping for here. Blake Griffin with less dunks but maybe/hopefully better shooting.

[ReggiesKnicks]

A more physically gifted Al Horford is a terrific player.

Boozer's passing skills and defense have been terrific so far, and both should translate well to the NBA.

[ezhkw8u69e]

A more physically gifted Al Horford is a terrific player.

Boozer's passing skills and defense have been terrific so far, and both should translate well to the NBA.

Boozer is nowhere close to as physically gifted as Al Horford was coming out of Florida. I guess people don't remember these things and don't realize that players lose athleticism as they age. Boozer is an average athlete at best. Horford was well above average when he was younger.