Has Shai passed Luka? If so, when? (impact as a player + all-time)

[MaliBrah]

That stat is made up by fan

I can't find original tweet because it's way back but it came from a more reputable source citing second spectrum. It was 69.4% and 67.5% later in the finals.

It was fake made up by Luka fans on twitter in their community "club 77"

[Archx]

how is it a smear to say what luka isn't universally liked his teammates as SGA when KP and Rick C said that directly...and we have all seen Luka yelling at his guys like he isn't the worse defender on the court..

https://youtube.com/shorts/X8FTlOZPzB4?si=vd7rUlRWjF4yT0qW

luka is clearly a good dude...but you really think he is as good a leader as SGA? come on dude...thats kinda weird...even for you...the chairman of the Luka Fan club...

btw...all things equal I would say Kobe was a bad leader because of the way he treated Lin and Smush Parker...

Well i guess you're the chairman of the SGA club then and a cunning politician because your way of lying and making up facts just to prop up SGA is absolutely next level. It's quite incredible how you went from a respectable poster to this childish behaviour in such a short time, respect dude.

lol respectable behavior?!?

Stop bro - we talking about people we don’t personally know on the internet with people we don’t know . I am intentionally never disrespecting or dismissive of anyone’s opinions. I think Luka and SGA are equal talents and SGA is a better leader which leads to more winning and a healthier work environment for the players:.. but who cares what I think?

Come on - have a good Saturday and put me on ignore if I ever annoy you - I won’t put you ignore cause honestly I like your post even if you don’t like mines

You don't annoy me lol, i just find it sad to what great lengths you'd go to make stuff up. That's all. I called you out on it and you resorted to some childish remarks. I even repeatedly told you i couldn't care less who's a better player or a leader or a person or whatever you want. That's all.

[Godymas]

he's obviously passed Luka, and it doesn't really look like Luka is set to catch up anytime soon.

Right now Luka is locked into 4th, behind Giannis, Jokic, and SGA. You can't really argue against it. Maybe someone might say "oh but Luka this year has a bit more counting stats than SGA", and the rebuke is..SGA just wins more this year, his team is better with him, and SGA is legitimately All Defense level while being an All NBA 1st team lock. Additionally, SGA hasn't even missed games, Luka has. SGA also does his #s in less minutes compared to Luka.

This year Luka is not winning any MVP ahead of Giannis and Jokic who are both a good tier above Luka. I would put SGA on the same tier as Giannis and Jokic too. Luka is in his own tier below the 3 best players in the NBA and it's really hard to argue against it.

The unfortunate thing about Luka's career is..he might not win a ring similar to James Harden, Charles Barkley, Malone/Stockton, take your pick. His prime is crossing with someone who is going to be better all time and OKC is set to win for a long time. On top of that Luka will age out while the next gen enters their prime, it's going to be incredibly difficult for Luka to get a ring. As a bold prediction, I believe Luka will win only one ring max at best, but I've already made a thread discussing the possibility that Luka gets 0 rings.

[Mirotic12]

He was actually age 19 and 21.

He turned 21 towards the end of that season. It's considered his age 20 season.

February isn't the end of the season. If he was American, that would be considered his junior NCAA year.

That's actually how that's always historically been categorized, with the cutoff being July 1.

[CobraCommander]

Well i guess you're the chairman of the SGA club then and a cunning politician because your way of lying and making up facts just to prop up SGA is absolutely next level. It's quite incredible how you went from a respectable poster to this childish behaviour in such a short time, respect dude.

lol respectable behavior?!?

Stop bro - we talking about people we don’t personally know on the internet with people we don’t know . I am intentionally never disrespecting or dismissive of anyone’s opinions. I think Luka and SGA are equal talents and SGA is a better leader which leads to more winning and a healthier work environment for the players:.. but who cares what I think?

Come on - have a good Saturday and put me on ignore if I ever annoy you - I won’t put you ignore cause honestly I like your post even if you don’t like mines

You don't annoy me lol, i just find it sad to what great lengths you'd go to make stuff up. That's all. I called you out on it and you resorted to some childish remarks. I even repeatedly told you i couldn't care less who's a better player or a leader or a person or whatever you want. That's all.

Yeah sure - I said Luka isn’t as good a leader as SGA based feedback and observations from Coaches, players, refs, GMs and fans… and you said that’s making crap up… when sga is the model of fitness, team first leadership and has won a ring, fmvp and MVP and scoring title with one of the youngest rosters ever…. With only one lottery pick.. Chet… that missed most of last year… did I miss anything?

That’s why SGA has surpassed Luka…

[Archx]

lol respectable behavior?!?

Stop bro - we talking about people we don’t personally know on the internet with people we don’t know . I am intentionally never disrespecting or dismissive of anyone’s opinions. I think Luka and SGA are equal talents and SGA is a better leader which leads to more winning and a healthier work environment for the players:.. but who cares what I think?

Come on - have a good Saturday and put me on ignore if I ever annoy you - I won’t put you ignore cause honestly I like your post even if you don’t like mines

You don't annoy me lol, i just find it sad to what great lengths you'd go to make stuff up. That's all. I called you out on it and you resorted to some childish remarks. I even repeatedly told you i couldn't care less who's a better player or a leader or a person or whatever you want. That's all.

Yeah sure - I said Luka isn’t as good a leader as SGA based feedback and observations from Coaches, players, refs, GMs and fans… and you said that’s making crap up… when sga is the model of fitness, team first leadership and has won a ring, fmvp and MVP and scoring title with one of the youngest rosters ever…. With only one lottery pick.. Chet… that missed most of last year… did I miss anything?

Serious question, is everything ok with you or do you need to talk to someone? Or do you have a selective memory? What's going on?

THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE.

you can't say Luka is universally loved by his teammates and coaches...we got guys like Rick C and KP and even Din and Brunson saying there were people that didnt really get along with luka...either because they felt like they didnt get the ball enough, or that he was aloof like like Kobe or that he was just mean to these guys when they were on the bench...we have seen luka curse out his whole bench... NOW WHO WANTS THE BOSS CURSING THEM OUT IN TV....luka has embarrassed teammates when they do something stupid on the court.

Under this quote i posted PROOF, EVIDENCE quoting his former coaches, players, friends, etc...They all said how great of a teammate he is/was and a friend. There was NEVER an argument if Luka is a better player than SGA.

But NO ONE has said the things you wrote, then you still went on some long rants how much SGA is better.. Even though i told you 1000x times i don't care if SGA is better. Irony is i didn't even argue that Luka is the better player than SGA i only said he's not a terrible teammate like you wrote.

So please stop with your nonsense obsession who is the better player because for the last time I DON'T CARE.

[NBA_is_cringe]

sga is a forced fake superstar like giannis. refs rig the game so giannis is allowed to travel and no one is allowed to breathe on sga. i see the damage control forum is in overdrive

[CobraCommander]

You don't annoy me lol, i just find it sad to what great lengths you'd go to make stuff up. That's all. I called you out on it and you resorted to some childish remarks. I even repeatedly told you i couldn't care less who's a better player or a leader or a person or whatever you want. That's all.

Yeah sure - I said Luka isn’t as good a leader as SGA based feedback and observations from Coaches, players, refs, GMs and fans… and you said that’s making crap up… when sga is the model of fitness, team first leadership and has won a ring, fmvp and MVP and scoring title with one of the youngest rosters ever…. With only one lottery pick.. Chet… that missed most of last year… did I miss anything?

Serious question, is everything ok with you or do you need to talk to someone? Or do you have a selective memory? What's going on?

THIS IS WHAT YOU WROTE.

you can't say Luka is universally loved by his teammates and coaches...we got guys like Rick C and KP and even Din and Brunson saying there were people that didnt really get along with luka...either because they felt like they didnt get the ball enough, or that he was aloof like like Kobe or that he was just mean to these guys when they were on the bench...we have seen luka curse out his whole bench... NOW WHO WANTS THE BOSS CURSING THEM OUT IN TV....luka has embarrassed teammates when they do something stupid on the court.

Under this quote i posted PROOF, EVIDENCE quoting his former coaches, players, friends, etc...They all said how great of a teammate he is/was and a friend. There was NEVER an argument if Luka is a better player than SGA.

But NO ONE has said the things you wrote, then you still went on some long rants how much SGA is better.. Even though i told you 1000x times i don't care if SGA is better. Irony is i didn't even argue that Luka is the better player than SGA i only said he's not a terrible teammate like you wrote.

So please stop with your nonsense obsession who is the better player because for the last time I DON'T CARE.

Dude I’m texting from the squat rack on heavy leg day with the boys and girls… they don’t even know who SGA is and only have ne knows who Luka is… so I’m happy to have you to talk to lol

Honestly like most of us here… no one is really dialed in on basketball till the second round of the playoffs… unless they sports bet..:

I’m
Having fun with yall.. and my opinion is just an opinion based on observation…

The only thing wrong in my life is I’m not sure I want to bulk this winter because my cut in the spring lasted into the summer and I wasn’t 100% comfortable shirts off at the early raves because of the lack of bottom ab definition… call if you got some advice …

[Archx]

Dude I’m texting from the squat rack on heavy leg day with the boys and girls… they don’t even know who SGA is and only have ne knows who Luka is… so I’m happy to have you to talk to lol

Honestly like most of us here… no one is really dialed in on basketball till the second round of the playoffs… unless they sports bet..:

I’m
Having fun with yall.. and my opinion is just an opinion based on observation…

The only thing wrong in my life is I’m not sure I want to bulk this winter because my cut in the spring lasted into the summer and I wasn’t 100% comfortable shirts off at the early raves because of the lack of bottom ab definition… call if you got some advice …

Lol i have no problem with that but at least next time read what we write before you start squatting

Enjoy your training.

[CobraCommander]

Dude I’m texting from the squat rack on heavy leg day with the boys and girls… they don’t even know who SGA is and only have ne knows who Luka is… so I’m happy to have you to talk to lol

Honestly like most of us here… no one is really dialed in on basketball till the second round of the playoffs… unless they sports bet..:

I’m
Having fun with yall.. and my opinion is just an opinion based on observation…

The only thing wrong in my life is I’m not sure I want to bulk this winter because my cut in the spring lasted into the summer and I wasn’t 100% comfortable shirts off at the early raves because of the lack of bottom ab definition… call if you got some advice …

Lol i have no problem with that but at least next time read what we write before you start squatting

Enjoy your training.

I read it and btw i think SGA Luka and Giannis are potentially playing for 3rd - with Jokic one and potentially wemby surpassing everyone else if he finds consistency- so the question later this year will be who is the 3rd best player in nba.:. And it won’t be about skill sets- all of the guys are SSS tier players… it’s gonna be about how much Giannis, Luka and SGA can get out of their team and maximize the system…

[Statlanta]

End of last season when he proved he could lead the team to the promised land. If they both retired today, we would remember OKC and not anything from Dallas except the weird Nico Harris thing.

[hagredionis]

It's funny reading SGA Stans going on about how he has a title and Luka doesn't but what they don't mention is Luka had to play his finals against the first seed Boston which was a historically good team. Meanwhile SGA played against 4th seed Indiana and only managed to win 4-3 after Indiana's best player Haliburton got injured in game 7.

SGA has not passed Luka the stats are clear:

Luka 33.7 ppg / 8.9 rpg / 9.2 apg / 1.8 spg
SGA 32.2 ppg / 5.2 rpg / 6.6 apg / 1.3 spg

The reality is Luka is a better scorerer, a better playmaker and a better rebounder. SGA does have a better whistle and a more stacked team tho.

[Cavsfansince84]

February isn't the end of the season. If he was American, that would be considered his junior NCAA year.

That's actually how that's always historically been categorized, with the cutoff being July 1.

It's not. Go look on bb reference and see the ages they are listed at. If you still want to disagree I really don't give any ****s at all tbh. At the end of the day you are just arguing to argue.