Roy vs Rose
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Who you got for peak?
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If you need someone to carry your offense, I'd go Rose. If you need someone to lift a team scheme with a lot of talent around him and other creators, I'd go Roy.
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Did Rose do anything better than Roy offensively
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penbeast0 wrote:If you need someone to carry your offense, I'd go Rose. If you need someone to left a team scheme with a lot of talent around him and other creators, I'd go Roy.
Roy didn't have an abundance of talent around him in 2009, yet he still led the #1 offense in the NBA.
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Healthy Rose was more explosive and faster. Healthy Roy had more versatile offensive moves and was a better shooter.
If it’s about carrying a team’s offense, especially down the stretch in the playoffs in an elimination game, it would be prime Roy for me.
If it’s about carrying a team’s offense, especially down the stretch in the playoffs in an elimination game, it would be prime Roy for me.
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I must have missed Roy's MVP season and his only being held out of the finals by the Heatles twice.
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Laimbeer wrote:I must have missed Roy's MVP season and his only being held out of the finals by the Heatles twice.
I must have missed that for Rose as well.
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Do you prefer playoff Jamal Murray or a healthy Ja Morant?
That’s the best comp I can tell new kids
That’s the best comp I can tell new kids
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SHAQ32 wrote:Did Rose do anything better than Roy offensively
Pick and roll, getting to the rim, getting to the line, volume playmaker, transition scoring.
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MessiahUjiri wrote:Do you prefer playoff Jamal Murray or a healthy Ja Morant?
That’s the best comp I can tell new kids
Both of those guys are point guards. Roy wasn't. Probably more like Ja Morant v Demar DeRozen
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Roy leading a top offense with as slow of a pace as he did is it for me.
The Greatest of All Time debate in basketball is essentially who has the greatest basketball resume of the player who has the best highlights instead of who is the best player
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On court, Roy.
Off court, Roy by a mile.
Off court, Roy by a mile.
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I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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Laimbeer wrote:MessiahUjiri wrote:Do you prefer playoff Jamal Murray or a healthy Ja Morant?
That’s the best comp I can tell new kids
Both of those guys are point guards. Roy wasn't. Probably more like Ja Morant v Demar DeRozen
How are you bringing Demar into a comparison about Roy vs Morant?
Roy was the de facto lead guard in those teams where the PG was Steve Blake.
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Roy was more like a rich man's Jalen Suggs than Demar.
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