Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green

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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#61 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 4:23 pm

Over the summer the Knicks were trying to bring in Borrego in as lead assistant and he chose NO instead. It seemed pretty apparent at that time to us that Green was just keeping the seat warm, otherwise, wouldn't NYK be a better situation?

Why they didn't just fire Green over the summer, I can only speculate.

G R E Y wrote:(KAT? I've long thought NYK traded for him as a Zion flip - this is my player/team on a long winding path towards one another interpretation)


If we do that fire everyone.
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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#62 » by ConSarnit » Yesterday 7:37 pm

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3ddman23 wrote:These type of firings are funny. So they fire green for the 2-10 start then promote borrego( I get some one has to take over) and then borrego most likely continues to lose games just like green so in the end what was the point of firing green in the first place? Do they expect borrego(who was already on the staff with the 2-10 start) to turn it around? Lol I get how it all works, but it's just kinda ridiculous.

Borrego was brought in for this very moment. He has experience and is a bit tougher, organized. Roster issues notwithstanding, Zion is not a reliable player, Green can both be pitied and this can be the right play, based on Green's body of work and feedback here from fans who watch the team on a regular basis.

Dumars made a huge risky move but it was part of a plan, I believe one Grizz are on, which is 1. have a timeline to make things work with your star 2. if/ when it doesn't, move on. I believe we are far closer to 2 for both teams based on their drastic moves.

Dumars traded for Queen and got bent over for it as a Zion buoy/replacement and because the cost was so high it forces the team to try to be competitive, like Hawks when they traded for Murray. They did well in their return for him, and Pels can do well in their return for Zion who is afterall still young and actually competes and is electrifying when he plays. His issues are not Morant's and neither is his on court attitude.

When the return is whatever it is, Borrego, a new voice, and a more balanced roster (KAT? I've long thought NYK traded for him as a Zion flip - this is my player/team on a long winding path towards one another interpretation) will do better.

Pels have talent. Hopefully Borrego can better channel the sum of their parts.


How do you figure? This is supposed to be Zion’s “healthy, in-shape” season and he’s played 5 games.

Even if the guy is in better shape he still can’t stay healthy. His on-court attitude doesn’t mean anything when he can’t play half of the games.
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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#63 » by G R E Y » Yesterday 7:55 pm

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G R E Y wrote:
3ddman23 wrote:These type of firings are funny. So they fire green for the 2-10 start then promote borrego( I get some one has to take over) and then borrego most likely continues to lose games just like green so in the end what was the point of firing green in the first place? Do they expect borrego(who was already on the staff with the 2-10 start) to turn it around? Lol I get how it all works, but it's just kinda ridiculous.

Borrego was brought in for this very moment. He has experience and is a bit tougher, organized. Roster issues notwithstanding, Zion is not a reliable player, Green can both be pitied and this can be the right play, based on Green's body of work and feedback here from fans who watch the team on a regular basis.

Dumars made a huge risky move but it was part of a plan, I believe one Grizz are on, which is 1. have a timeline to make things work with your star 2. if/ when it doesn't, move on. I believe we are far closer to 2 for both teams based on their drastic moves.

Dumars traded for Queen and got bent over for it as a Zion buoy/replacement and because the cost was so high it forces the team to try to be competitive, like Hawks when they traded for Murray. They did well in their return for him, and Pels can do well in their return for Zion who is afterall still young and actually competes and is electrifying when he plays. His issues are not Morant's and neither is his on court attitude.

When the return is whatever it is, Borrego, a new voice, and a more balanced roster (KAT? I've long thought NYK traded for him as a Zion flip - this is my player/team on a long winding path towards one another interpretation) will do better.

Pels have talent. Hopefully Borrego can better channel the sum of their parts.


How do you figure? This is supposed to be Zion’s “healthy, in-shape” season and he’s played 5 games.

Even if the guy is in better shape he still can’t stay healthy. His on-court attitude doesn’t mean anything when he can’t play half of the games.

True, availability is an ability. I guess I was comparing off court issues to Ja's and on court attitude as being more palatable for prospective teams, but for sure health is an issue. His contract addressing some concerns there may be an incentive to teams trading for him.

In the meantime, Queen steps in and has a chance to step up.

Pels have to pounce in that healthy Zion window.
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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#64 » by meekrab » Yesterday 8:01 pm

Not that this was unexpected but as a team owner I wouldn't want Joe Dumars choosing my next head coach.
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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#65 » by davidv2001 » Yesterday 11:00 pm

kane0801 wrote:
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donato wrote:Willie was awful, awful. Way too late for this move, but at least it's here. I'm for blowing up the roster and building around Queen/Fears who both have looked better than expected.


I’d keep Murphy and Jones unless I got an offer I couldn’t refuse and trade Zion for whatever I could get. Move Poole just to get him away from your young guys, even if it means taking on another bad contract. Let Murray try to rehab his value midseason, then trade him, if possible.

Also, play Queen and Missi together to see if it can be a Karl-Anthony Towns/Mitchell Robinson type pairing, with Queen playing the Towns role and Missi playing the Robinson role.

Towns can stretch the floor but Queen and Missi both can't


Queen doesn’t have Towns’ shooting ability today, but he is going to have to develop that shot to be a good pro because he, like Towns, is not an elite rim protector. Missi is a defensive-minded, rim running center like Mitchell Robinson.
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Re: Pelicans fire head coach: Willie Green 

Post#66 » by Memories » Yesterday 11:03 pm

Homer38 wrote:They need to fire Dumars too.....


Not before the Lakers rip off Herb Jones and/or Trey Murphy off their hands.

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