PG: Notorious BI3 come thru (8-1 in last 9)

[LLJ]

Overall the ball movement needs a lot of work. Probably the worst passing Raptors team that I can remember.

But the talent and effort is there, and the chemistry is building. I think they will look very different as they sharpen up and Darko gets a better sense of how to define roles.

lol wtf? They're 3rd in the league in assists but it's the worst passing team you can remember?

Yeah, sounds like an overreaction to one game where we turned over the ball a lot. We've actually been very good at passing and keeping turnovers low up until this game. We've got like 4 guys averaging 4+ assists per game too.

[PushDaRock]

Overall the ball movement needs a lot of work. Probably the worst passing Raptors team that I can remember.

But the talent and effort is there, and the chemistry is building. I think they will look very different as they sharpen up and Darko gets a better sense of how to define roles.

lol wtf? They're 3rd in the league in assists but it's the worst passing team you can remember?

Watch how sloppy and unpredictable the ball movement is.

lol also 5th in the league in turnovers, so they're taking care of it too.

You're literally taking a 1 game sample size and basing your opinion around it.

[Childs]

[PushDaRock]

Overall the ball movement needs a lot of work. Probably the worst passing Raptors team that I can remember.

But the talent and effort is there, and the chemistry is building. I think they will look very different as they sharpen up and Darko gets a better sense of how to define roles.

lol wtf? They're 3rd in the league in assists but it's the worst passing team you can remember?

Yeah, sounds like an overreaction to one game where we turned over the ball a lot. We've actually been very good at passing and keeping turnovers low up until this game. We've got like 4 guys averaging 4+ assists per game.

The ball movement is the last thing to whine about on this team. They share the ball incredibly well.

[Dennis 37]

There has to be somesort of review on referee quality or at the crew level like they have in base ball. This is ridiculous

There is. We just never find out the results.

In an ideal world every team would get equal turns with the best refs.

[Anticon]

lol wtf? They're 3rd in the league in assists but it's the worst passing team you can remember?

Watch how sloppy and unpredictable the ball movement is.

lol also 5th in the league in turnovers, so they're taking care of it too.

You're literally taking a 1 game sample size and basing your opinion around it.

No, it's not based on one game. It's been a general trend that I don't have faith in their passing and execution.

I agree with you, the aggregate assist and turnovers numbers are good. But they don't execute at a high level yet, and that's something I think will become a pain point when they play better competition.

But like I said, I think they'll get there.

[PushDaRock]

And hes a full year younger than everyone. Hes supposed to be in college right now. Flagg will be a top 10 player as his floor and top 3-5 player for majority of his prime. Love his game

Top 10 player as a floor is way too high.

I just cant see him not be great if he remains healthy. He is THAT guy on both ends of the court. He'll be an allstar next year.

Top 10 floor basically means he is a lock to be at least a 25 ppg scorer, which I don't think is the case.

[LLJ]

Watch how sloppy and unpredictable the ball movement is.

lol also 5th in the league in turnovers, so they're taking care of it too.

You're literally taking a 1 game sample size and basing your opinion around it.

No, it's not based on one game. It's been a general trend that I don't have faith in their passing and execution.

I agree with you, the aggregate assist and turnovers numbers are good. But they don't execute at a high level yet, and that's something I think will become a pain point when they play better competition.

But like I said, I think they'll get there.

They're still feeling each other out, and obviously they don't compare to our championship squad (either in talent or quality of play) but I'd hardly call them the "worst passing Raptors team I've seen". I mean, the Bargnani led years still existed.

[Tor_Raps]

Top 10 player as a floor is way too high.

I just cant see him not be great if he remains healthy. He is THAT guy on both ends of the court. He'll be an allstar next year.

Top 10 floor basically means he is a lock to be at least a 25 ppg scorer, which I don't think is the case.

He will be a 25PPG scorer for sure. I repeat, he is supposed to be in college right now.

[PushDaRock]

Watch how sloppy and unpredictable the ball movement is.

lol also 5th in the league in turnovers, so they're taking care of it too.

You're literally taking a 1 game sample size and basing your opinion around it.

No, it's not based on one game. It's been a general trend that I don't have faith in their passing and execution.

I agree with you, the aggregate assist and turnovers numbers are good. But they don't execute at a high level yet, and that's something I think will become a pain point when they play better competition.

But like I said, I think they'll get there.

lol you literally called them the worst passing Raptors team you can remember.

Just take the L here

[Anticon]

lol also 5th in the league in turnovers, so they're taking care of it too.

You're literally taking a 1 game sample size and basing your opinion around it.

No, it's not based on one game. It's been a general trend that I don't have faith in their passing and execution.

I agree with you, the aggregate assist and turnovers numbers are good. But they don't execute at a high level yet, and that's something I think will become a pain point when they play better competition.

But like I said, I think they'll get there.

They're still feeling each other out, and obviously they don't compare to our championship squad (either in talent or quality of play) but I'd hardly call them the "worst passing Raptors team I've seen". I mean, the Bargnani led years still existed.

Yeah, in fairness it's been a while. But the Ford / Calderon teams were pretty slick from what I remember.

In any case, yes, probably an exaggeration which distracts from the main point. Which is to me that it's the area that has a lot of room for growth, and lots of good signs of promising chemistry starting.

[PushDaRock]

I just cant see him not be great if he remains healthy. He is THAT guy on both ends of the court. He'll be an allstar next year.

Top 10 floor basically means he is a lock to be at least a 25 ppg scorer, which I don't think is the case.

He will be a 25PPG scorer for sure. I repeat, he is supposed to be in college right now.

Who cares?

I'm not basing that opinion based off his rookie season so far, most rookies suck anyways.

I think his ceiling is closer to 25 ppg than his floor being 25 ppg.

[lolwut]

Knueppel is going to be a very good player. Super impressed by this rookie.

[Tor_Raps]

Top 10 floor basically means he is a lock to be at least a 25 ppg scorer, which I don't think is the case.

He will be a 25PPG scorer for sure. I repeat, he is supposed to be in college right now.

Who cares?

I'm not basing that opinion based off his rookie season so far, most rookies suck anyways.

I think his ceiling is closer to 25 ppg than his floor being 25 ppg.

It matters because his performance should be considered even more impressive. I see him being around 25PPG with DPOY potential... Basically a 1st team defense + 1st/2nd team all nba.

Anyways, we'll see how it goes.

[LLJ]

No, it's not based on one game. It's been a general trend that I don't have faith in their passing and execution.

I agree with you, the aggregate assist and turnovers numbers are good. But they don't execute at a high level yet, and that's something I think will become a pain point when they play better competition.

But like I said, I think they'll get there.

They're still feeling each other out, and obviously they don't compare to our championship squad (either in talent or quality of play) but I'd hardly call them the "worst passing Raptors team I've seen". I mean, the Bargnani led years still existed.

Yeah, in fairness it's been a while. But the Ford / Calderon teams were pretty slick from what I remember.

In any case, yes, probably an exaggeration which distracts from the main point. Which is to me that it's the area that has a lot of room for growth, and lots of good signs of promising chemistry starting.

I think we're used to having quality game management PGs for our past "good" teams. Lowry was such an impact player for us at that position and ran the team so well for so many years that he's kind of the franchise standard. This might be the first time we might have a "good" team where our best QBs are our PF and backup PG. And I feel like that's still a source of underlying awkwardness for both Scottie and Quickley.

[Tor_Raps]

Knueppel is going to be a very good player. Super impressed by this rookie.

Same, Hornets could be better off giving the ball to Kon RIGHT NOW than running their offense through Ball. Kid's gonna be scary.

[PushDaRock]

He will be a 25PPG scorer for sure. I repeat, he is supposed to be in college right now.

Who cares?

I'm not basing that opinion based off his rookie season so far, most rookies suck anyways.

I think his ceiling is closer to 25 ppg than his floor being 25 ppg.

It matters because his performance should be considered even more impressive. I see him being around 25PPG with DPOY potential... Basically a 1st team defense + 1st/2nd team all nba.

Anyways, we'll see how it goes.

But, there's nothing all that impressive about what he's doing as a rookie so far. He sucks right now just like most rookies do. Not sure how his age makes that more impressive?

[rapsincr]

Overall the ball movement needs a lot of work. Probably the worst passing Raptors team that I can remember.

But the talent and effort is there, and the chemistry is building. I think they will look very different as they sharpen up and Darko gets a better sense of how to define roles.

lol wtf? They're 3rd in the league in assists but it's the worst passing team you can remember?

It's not about total assists. Watch how sloppy and unpredictable the ball movement is. Generally the Raptors have been a low turnover team, so it stands out.

fun fact, before this game even started, this season (9 games with poetl)has been the most that jak, scottie, IQ and barrett have ever played together in a season, add in another player they have never played with before in BI and some occasional sloppyness is to be expected. beyond that starting group which tends to chuck and play iso at the beginning this team is a fantastic passing team.

[HiJiNX]

what i love about this game is that its defense that helped cinch the win.

Yeah we had some defensive possessions tonight that were scintillating. But I saw it coming. It was last season or the season before where we nearly beat OKC where I really saw the vision behind Darko’s defensive approach. I knew this day would come.

[Spates]

I'm so fascinated by this team.

They've looked really strong while also seeming an unrefined work in progress. Excited to see what level Darko can get them to.