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[daoneandonly]

Thought this one was interesting, curious what others think? I would do this as a Mavs fan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25296427-best-way-get-anthony-davis-chicago-bulls

Mavericks get:

Tre Jones (from Bulls)
Zach Collins (from Bulls)
Kevin Huerter (from Bulls)
2026 protected first-round pick (from Bulls)
2026 protected Portland Trail Blazers first-round pick (via Bulls)
$18.1 million trade exception (Anthony Davis)
$9.6 million trade exception (Caleb Martin)
$2.3 million trade exception (Dante Exum)
Bulls get:

Anthony Davis (from Mavericks)
Caleb Martin (from Mavericks)
Dante Exum (from Mavericks)
Jalen Wilson (from Nets)
$8 million trade exception (Tre Jones)
Nets get:

Dalen Terry (from Bulls)
Jevon Carter (from Bulls)
Rights to Melvin Ajinça (No. 51 in 2024, from Mavericks)
2029 second-rounder (from Bulls)
2030 second-rounder (from Bulls)

Mavs shouldn't do it, but I fear ownership will heat about the tax bill next year and will pull yhe trigger

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

[Mavrelous]

Thought this one was interesting, curious what others think? I would do this as a Mavs fan

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25296427-best-way-get-anthony-davis-chicago-bulls

Mavericks get:

Tre Jones (from Bulls)
Zach Collins (from Bulls)
Kevin Huerter (from Bulls)
2026 protected first-round pick (from Bulls)
2026 protected Portland Trail Blazers first-round pick (via Bulls)
$18.1 million trade exception (Anthony Davis)
$9.6 million trade exception (Caleb Martin)
$2.3 million trade exception (Dante Exum)
Bulls get:

Anthony Davis (from Mavericks)
Caleb Martin (from Mavericks)
Dante Exum (from Mavericks)
Jalen Wilson (from Nets)
$8 million trade exception (Tre Jones)
Nets get:

Dalen Terry (from Bulls)
Jevon Carter (from Bulls)
Rights to Melvin Ajinça (No. 51 in 2024, from Mavericks)
2029 second-rounder (from Bulls)
2030 second-rounder (from Bulls)

Mavs shouldn't do it, but I fear ownership will heat about the tax bill next year and will pull yhe trigger

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

[jbk1234]

Mavs shouldn't do it, but I fear ownership will heat about the tax bill next year and will pull yhe trigger

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

Yeah, the Mavs aren't obligated to extend him. The lottery teams won't be looking forward to the 27 draft the way they're looking forward to this one, and teams like the Hornets, Wizards, and Jazz, who've been at it for a minute now, might decide to level up.

[Godaddycurse]

Mavs shouldn't do it, but I fear ownership will heat about the tax bill next year and will pull yhe trigger

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

but would a healthy expiring AD fetch more than 2 1sts regardless?

[daoneandonly]

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

but would a healthy expiring AD fetch more than 2 1sts regardless?

Yea, id be skeptical. Not sure CHi would do the proposed deal, but if I were the Mavs GM I would. Take the savings, the picks, and as sad as it sounds, Tre Jones would eb the best PG on the team not named Kyrie.

[Mavrelous]

Do you think they can do better though? Hefty savings and picks would be a nice avenue to go. And Im probably higher on Tre than most

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

but would a healthy expiring AD fetch more than 2 1sts regardless?

He should? He was 17th in trade value on this board just a year ago, but regardless, I totally understand anyone who values differently.
These are a protected 1st with no upside and a 1st from a team in the east that is already borderline PO team, it has very little variance, I value these 1sts very little.
I value a chance at competing next year much more, the only reason to do this deal is to save money.

[djFan71]

Working on an a bad idea that no one liked?

Brooklyn: Mann and Highsmith
Brooklyn: Simons and “any vet min Boston wants”

Open up cap space for next summer.

Boston: Simons, “any vet min Boston wants”, and 2nd(s)
Boston: Mann and Gafford

Boston takes on two expensive but useful pieces around their three stars.

Dallas: Gafford
Dallas: Highsmith and 2nd(s)

Dallas trims 8.7 mil and gets 1-2 seconds they will use to get the rest of the way under the tax at the deadline.

Feels like if Dallas is trading Gafford for someone out for the year and 2nds that at least they should be pushed under the tax in that deal. TBH, I think this should be some kind of Simons for Mann deal to get Boston under the apron and get off future money for BRK.

Yeah, I don’t mind the two teams cutting Dallas out. I just thought Boston would like the duo as affordable 20-30mpg rotation pieces around their stars.

I do think Gafford should have a bit more value than that suggestion. But trying to look at deals other than AD for a second.

BOS: Gafford and Hardy
BKN: Simons
DAL: Mann, BOS 2nds

Save a year of Gafford and cost/year for Mann over Gaff/Hardy the next 2.
BOS is a Hauser dump from ducking the tax.
BKN off Mann future money.

Not sure if that's enough for DAL/BKN?

[jbk1234]

Feels like if Dallas is trading Gafford for someone out for the year and 2nds that at least they should be pushed under the tax in that deal. TBH, I think this should be some kind of Simons for Mann deal to get Boston under the apron and get off future money for BRK.

Yeah, I don’t mind the two teams cutting Dallas out. I just thought Boston would like the duo as affordable 20-30mpg rotation pieces around their stars.

I do think Gafford should have a bit more value than that suggestion. But trying to look at deals other than AD for a second.

BOS: Gafford and Hardy
BKN: Simons
DAL: Mann, BOS 2nds

Save a year of Gafford and cost/year for Mann over Gaff/Hardy the next 2.
BOS is a Hauser dump from ducking the tax.
BKN off Mann future money.

Not sure if that's enough for DAL/BKN?

It's not. Dallas presumably gave Gafford that extension because they value him at that number.

[Hook_Em]

Higher trade value between Kyrie and Green?

[jayjaysee]

Feels like if Dallas is trading Gafford for someone out for the year and 2nds that at least they should be pushed under the tax in that deal. TBH, I think this should be some kind of Simons for Mann deal to get Boston under the apron and get off future money for BRK.

Yeah, I don’t mind the two teams cutting Dallas out. I just thought Boston would like the duo as affordable 20-30mpg rotation pieces around their stars.

I do think Gafford should have a bit more value than that suggestion. But trying to look at deals other than AD for a second.

BOS: Gafford and Hardy
BKN: Simons
DAL: Mann, BOS 2nds

Save a year of Gafford and cost/year for Mann over Gaff/Hardy the next 2.
BOS is a Hauser dump from ducking the tax.
BKN off Mann future money.

Not sure if that's enough for DAL/BKN?

Unorganized rant..

I don’t think Dallas does that version. I don’t even really think Dallas does my version. Just was an idea to get under the tax if Dallas plans to keep AD to try and go on a run next season.

Mann does make some sense on Dallas’ roster, which is why I was suggesting it on the offseason. Just tough to figure out how much incentive Dallas is really owed if they aren’t saving money. And Mann’s inclusion makes it really tough to duck the tax completely (and keep AD).. likely needs losing both Naji and Martin? Wouldn’t make sense to pay to dump Klay in this scenario..

But I do think Mann/Gaff would be affordable and good fitting pieces to add to Queta, Tatum, Brown, Hauser, White, Pritchard next season. Safely below second apron and hope some of the other kids develop. 2027-2028 books would need some work bit enjoy next season.

[Godaddycurse]

Higher trade value between Kyrie and Green?

which green are we talking about

[SkyHook]

Utah continues to stonewall all talks for Lauri Markkanen. If they move him, it will be sudden.

https://fansided.com/nba/nba-insider-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-ja-morant

[djFan71]

Yeah, I don’t mind the two teams cutting Dallas out. I just thought Boston would like the duo as affordable 20-30mpg rotation pieces around their stars.

I do think Gafford should have a bit more value than that suggestion. But trying to look at deals other than AD for a second.

BOS: Gafford and Hardy
BKN: Simons
DAL: Mann, BOS 2nds

Save a year of Gafford and cost/year for Mann over Gaff/Hardy the next 2.
BOS is a Hauser dump from ducking the tax.
BKN off Mann future money.

Not sure if that's enough for DAL/BKN?

Unorganized rant..

I don’t think Dallas does that version. I don’t even really think Dallas does my version. Just was an idea to get under the tax if Dallas plans to keep AD to try and go on a run next season.

Mann does make some sense on Dallas’ roster, which is why I was suggesting it on the offseason. Just tough to figure out how much incentive Dallas is really owed if they aren’t saving money. And Mann’s inclusion makes it really tough to duck the tax completely (and keep AD).. likely needs losing both Naji and Martin? Wouldn’t make sense to pay to dump Klay in this scenario..

But I do think Mann/Gaff would be affordable and good fitting pieces to add to Queta, Tatum, Brown, Hauser, White, Pritchard next season. Safely below second apron and hope some of the other kids develop. 2027-2028 books would need some work bit enjoy next season.

I think we both have the same problems with taking Mann and tax ducking.

Was hoping adding Hardy outgoing would help to save some $ this and future years, but totally get it not being enough. BOS probably bows out as well.

[Hook_Em]

Higher trade value between Kyrie and Green?

Jalen sorry. Lowe teased that swap on his post day.

[Scoot McGroot]

Utah continues to stonewall all talks for Lauri Markkanen. If they move him, it will be sudden.

https://fansided.com/nba/nba-insider-trade-rumors-anthony-davis-ja-morant

Probably. But that's also Matt Moore, who is really, really a bad prognosticator when it comes to what's happening around the league. Or understanding how the league works. For example, he also said this:

Keegan Murray is not eligible to be traded after his extension this fall

Which is completely wrong. He's absolutely eligible to be traded. He's just difficult to be traded because he's now subject to the "poison pill provision" in terms of salary matching.

[DirtyDez]

Is there a way the Suns could get Trae without trading Book? Nope? Okay thx for the chat.

[HornetJail]

Is there a way the Suns could get Trae without trading Book? Nope? Okay thx for the chat.

attempt to clear cap space and sign him in 2026 or 2027, whenever he decides to hit free agency. I'm aware that's extremely difficult to do with Green/Brooks/Allen on the books and Mark as a RFA.

[Klomp]

I'm trying to play around with a three-team trade involving Dallas, Minnesota and Team X, where Team X gets Anthony Davis and Dallas gets Julius Randle. I'm toying with Chicago as the third team, but haven't been able to settle on a good package.

Anybody else have ideas?

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I don't know, I wouldn't balme anyone for not wanting to be in AD business, but I'd take the chance on healthy season next year over this.

but would a healthy expiring AD fetch more than 2 1sts regardless?

He should? He was 17th in trade value on this board just a year ago, but regardless, I totally understand anyone who values differently.
These are a protected 1st with no upside and a 1st from a team in the east that is already borderline PO team, it has very little variance, I value these 1sts very little.
I value a chance at competing next year much more, the only reason to do this deal is to save money.

He was playing better with less weight a year ago. Also had an easier contract to match salary wise

[kobe_vs_jordan]

I'm trying to play around with a three-team trade involving Dallas, Minnesota and Team X, where Team X gets Anthony Davis and Dallas gets Julius Randle. I'm toying with Chicago as the third team, but haven't been able to settle on a good package.

Anybody else have ideas?

Think wolves and Dallas argue who get team x value. Dallas doesn’t need a good player this year