Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

[Bill Lumbergh]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

[jmr07019]

IMO, the most likely deadline scenario is that Simons remains on his expiring deal while Hauser/Tillman/Boucher are all "dumped" and replaced with buyout vet min signings. That gives you a 10 man rotation this year of:

Pritchard / Simons
White / Hugo
Brown / Scheierman
Walsh / Minott
Queta / Garza

And that is actually CURRENTLY the main rotation already except Hauser instead of Scheierman which is a downgrade on paper but Hauser hasn't really been playing well so far. So basically, it's pretty much the same rotation we've had so far that's been top 10 on both sides. So definitely still a team poised to push for playoffs like we are. Except instead of $12.1M over the tax line and paying $39.5M in tax as currently projected, they go to right below the tax line ($6M savings if you assume deals done midseason), no tax payment ($39.5M savings) and collecting tax payments from other teams ($10-15M). So again, same team we've had so far except owners pocket$50-55M this year.

And then for next year, 9/10 of those guys are signed (all but Simons) BUT Tatum comes back to his spot in the rotation:

White / Pritchard
Brown / Hugo
Walsh / Scheierman
Tatum / Minott
Queta / Garza

With those 10 players, they'd be $31.3M below the projected tax line. That allows them to sign their 1st round pick and then do some combination of full MLE and/or Porzingis TPE acquisitions, all while staying under the tax and resetting the repeater rates.

Not fun, not sexy, not what fans want to hear, but IMO this is how it's going to play out. Brad's not going to be short sighted and give up future assets to make a stronger playoff push without Tatum once you look at the cost/benefit analysis. The team for next year with Tatum back looks good on paper if Hugo/Minott/Walsh continue to look like quality rotation pieces and you factor in a quality 1st round pick and good acqusitions(s) via TPE/MLE. Ownership would love the plan financially and even for Stevens resetting those repeater rates yields huge flexibility for him down the line because now whatever payroll threshold ownership puts on him when they go back into the tax stretches further for the rest of Tatum/Brown prime years. It's just good, sound planning and roster maneuvering all around IMO.

Chism should have beers thrown at him if that's the route they go. The standard has to be higher

I doubt it would ever escalate to that. Look at the timing of moves in the plan I outlined...

1) this season/deadline: Dump Hauser and Boucher/Tillman. No one is going to care about Boucher/Tillman. Dumping Hauser will draw some ire but fans are also already kind of settled in on the fact that this is a bridge year and part of my post was predicated on the idea that Hugo/Walsh/Minott continue to play well. In a bridge year where Tatum is out and guys have actually stepped up into Hauser's role as a backup wing, I think it will be a relatively easy thing for fans to get over moving a guy who isn't even playing well so far.

2) This offseason: Even though I have them staying below the luxury tax there, I still think fans will be fine because look at the causes for excitement:

- returning ALL of this year's rotation except for Simons' who hasn't really endeared himself to fans
- Simons' departure is more than offset by the return of Tatum, which is a huge cause for optimism/excitement
- they'll be adding the highest draft pick they've had in some time
- even without going to the tax, they're still adding $20-25M worth of salary or salaries between the MLE and/or Porzingis TPE, so it's not like they won't be improving

All in all, fans are going to be looking at an offseason where Tatum comes back, you add the most exciting young prospect they've added in a while AND the team signs/trades for 1-2 rotation pieces. Even if the final number is below the tax, I don't think fans are going to feel "cheated" by ownership to the point of misery.

3) Next season/trade deadline: this is probably where ownership faces the most pressure. If the team is looking nice and they don't add salary at the deadline, fans might get upset. Tatum will be back and people will be hungry for another playoff run. Between the salaries on the books (inc. the MLE/TPE acquisitions) it's not like they won't be able to make ANY trades without adding salary. They'll also, presumably, be a very good team with Tatum back and one of the few that can sign significant buyout pieces midway too, so there's more avenues to improve.

4) 2027 offseason and beyond: repeater rates would be reset and Tatum/Brown/White still have prime years left. Wouldn't be subject to repeater rates again until I believe 2031. So no reason not to consistently go into the tax for the rest of their primes and at lower tax rates they get like 4 times as much bang for their payroll buck on the tax dollars they spend.

I just don't see fans ever rising to the level of extreme hatred for ownership unless they don't go back into the tax in 2027, which I believe they would. And the dollars stretch sooooooooo much further at regular rates than repeater rates so I think they'd be setting themselves up way better to actually get over the hump and win another title in one of those years vs. playing 2027 and beyond at a reduced level because they didn't want to do more in 2026-27 (next year) than "only" add Tatum back, also add their highest pick in a long time, and replace Hauser with $20-25M of other rotation pieces. That's still extremely solid improvement to next year's team after this bridge year.

The crux of our disagreement is the cost/benefit analysis of resetting the repeater tax. I don't think there's value in it for the on court product. Adding salary back will not be an easy task due to the CBA and that's a detail that shouldn't be overlooked. It's a move that will result in a net decrease to our chances at #19 while Tatum and Brown are here.

It should be noted that Brad and ownership have stated multiple times that getting under the tax is not a mandate. Kicking the can down the road, not putting our best foot forward, the 13th pick and an MLE signing doesn't do it for me. Trade for a big man and try and maximize our chances next year. The trade deadline should clear things up on whether or not the Celtics plan to reset the repeater tax or not.

I see a 3-4 year window starting next year but it could be shorter than that! Things change quickly. Look at Tatum's injury as an example. There's a million what if's .... what if Wemby becomes durable? What if Giannis forces his way out of Milwaukee and forms a super team somewhere? Etc. etc. Time is of the essence!

I would add I don't think the Celtics are all that far away. I still see 40-45 wins this year without Tatum and with him back the Celtics are a 50+ win team easily. Nobody in the east really scares me.

[tfribs45]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

verdict is still out on Simons, dudes buried on the bench when he should be starting....Joey needs to give the guy a chance, even when he blew up for 20+ in 8 minutes, Joe sat him. Whether you want to keep him or not, Simons need to play and be showcased. Simons next to JB, White, and JT is a lethal 4 on offense and the D hasn't been bad.

[165bows]

IMO, the most likely deadline scenario is that Simons remains on his expiring deal while Hauser/Tillman/Boucher are all "dumped" and replaced with buyout vet min signings. That gives you a 10 man rotation this year of:

Pritchard / Simons
White / Hugo
Brown / Scheierman
Walsh / Minott
Queta / Garza

And that is actually CURRENTLY the main rotation already except Hauser instead of Scheierman which is a downgrade on paper but Hauser hasn't really been playing well so far. So basically, it's pretty much the same rotation we've had so far that's been top 10 on both sides. So definitely still a team poised to push for playoffs like we are. Except instead of $12.1M over the tax line and paying $39.5M in tax as currently projected, they go to right below the tax line ($6M savings if you assume deals done midseason), no tax payment ($39.5M savings) and collecting tax payments from other teams ($10-15M). So again, same team we've had so far except owners pocket$50-55M this year.

And then for next year, 9/10 of those guys are signed (all but Simons) BUT Tatum comes back to his spot in the rotation:

White / Pritchard
Brown / Hugo
Walsh / Scheierman
Tatum / Minott
Queta / Garza

With those 10 players, they'd be $31.3M below the projected tax line. That allows them to sign their 1st round pick and then do some combination of full MLE and/or Porzingis TPE acquisitions, all while staying under the tax and resetting the repeater rates.

Not fun, not sexy, not what fans want to hear, but IMO this is how it's going to play out. Brad's not going to be short sighted and give up future assets to make a stronger playoff push without Tatum once you look at the cost/benefit analysis. The team for next year with Tatum back looks good on paper if Hugo/Minott/Walsh continue to look like quality rotation pieces and you factor in a quality 1st round pick and good acqusitions(s) via TPE/MLE. Ownership would love the plan financially and even for Stevens resetting those repeater rates yields huge flexibility for him down the line because now whatever payroll threshold ownership puts on him when they go back into the tax stretches further for the rest of Tatum/Brown prime years. It's just good, sound planning and roster maneuvering all around IMO.

Chism should have beers thrown at him if that's the route they go. The standard has to be higher

Not sure if this is a thing or not already but that’s his nickname if he doesn’t pan out.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

verdict is still out on Simons, dudes buried on the bench when he should be starting....Joey needs to give the guy a chance, even when he blew up for 20+ in 8 minutes, Joe sat him. Whether you want to keep him or not, Simons need to play and be showcased. Simons next to JB, White, and JT is a lethal 4 on offense and the D hasn't been bad.

I was talking about Sam. As to Simons, I was on vacation for 10 days and missed all the games in that stretch, so I don't know how Simons has been. All I have seen of him recently is this last game when he did nothing (and I'm not judging a guy on one game.) What is your impression of him so far?

[tfribs45]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

verdict is still out on Simons, dudes buried on the bench when he should be starting....Joey needs to give the guy a chance, even when he blew up for 20+ in 8 minutes, Joe sat him. Whether you want to keep him or not, Simons need to play and be showcased. Simons next to JB, White, and JT is a lethal 4 on offense and the D hasn't been bad.

I was talking about Sam. As to Simons, I was on vacation for 10 days and missed all the games in that stretch, so I don't know how Simons has been. All I have seen of him recently is this last game when he did nothing (and I'm not judging a guy on one game.) What is your impression of him so far?

tough to tell, he hasn't really been given a chance to gel. Hoping PP goes to the bench as 6th man again and Simons can slide in as a starter. He's def not a PG that's for sure, ball handling is questionable as the C's have struggled with the trap at times. On the other hand, he can be explosive and drop 20+ in 8 minutes, TBD

[Celts17Pride]

Simons does one thing which is shoot the ball. If his shots are not going in at a high rate then he is a net negative because he does absolutely nothing else. Mazzulla know this, so if Simons doesn't start out hitting shots then Mazzulla has a quick hook because he knows everything else is a negative.

[tfribs45]

Simons does one thing which is shoot the ball. If his shots are not going in at a high rate then he is a net negative because he does absolutely nothing else. Mazzulla know this, so if Simons doesn't start out hitting shots then Mazzulla has a quick hook because he knows everything else is a negative.

he's one of the few that can create his own shot and get to the rack. You make it sound like he's Hauser lol, def an upgrade over a three point "specialist". Get him in with the starting lineup and you'll see those ratings change. PP is better off the bench, IMO

[Celts17Pride]

Simons does one thing which is shoot the ball. If his shots are not going in at a high rate then he is a net negative because he does absolutely nothing else. Mazzulla know this, so if Simons doesn't start out hitting shots then Mazzulla has a quick hook because he knows everything else is a negative.

he's one of the few that can create his own shot and get to the rack. You make it sound like he's Hauser lol, def an upgrade over a three point "specialist". Get him in withe the starting lineup and you'll see those ratings change. PP is better off the bench, IMO

Respectfully disagree. Simons is a very bad player, thus absolutely no market for him.

[Celts17Pride]

Bill Simmons trade idea:

Los Angeles Clippers receive: Zach LaVine, Dario Saric

Sacramento Kings receive: Anfernee Simons, John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic

Boston Celtics receive: Malik Monk

Not sure I would do it, haven't really thought about it. First thought is some kind of pick should be going to Boston for taking Monk's extra years.

[keevsnick1]

I doubt it would ever escalate to that. Look at the timing of moves in the plan I outlined...

1) this season/deadline: Dump Hauser and Boucher/Tillman. No one is going to care about Boucher/Tillman. Dumping Hauser will draw some ire but fans are also already kind of settled in on the fact that this is a bridge year and part of my post was predicated on the idea that Hugo/Walsh/Minott continue to play well. In a bridge year where Tatum is out and guys have actually stepped up into Hauser's role as a backup wing, I think it will be a relatively easy thing for fans to get over moving a guy who isn't even playing well so far.

2) This offseason: Even though I have them staying below the luxury tax there, I still think fans will be fine because look at the causes for excitement:

- returning ALL of this year's rotation except for Simons' who hasn't really endeared himself to fans
- Simons' departure is more than offset by the return of Tatum, which is a huge cause for optimism/excitement
- they'll be adding the highest draft pick they've had in some time
- even without going to the tax, they're still adding $20-25M worth of salary or salaries between the MLE and/or Porzingis TPE, so it's not like they won't be improving

All in all, fans are going to be looking at an offseason where Tatum comes back, you add the most exciting young prospect they've added in a while AND the team signs/trades for 1-2 rotation pieces. Even if the final number is below the tax, I don't think fans are going to feel "cheated" by ownership to the point of misery.

3) Next season/trade deadline: this is probably where ownership faces the most pressure. If the team is looking nice and they don't add salary at the deadline, fans might get upset. Tatum will be back and people will be hungry for another playoff run. Between the salaries on the books (inc. the MLE/TPE acquisitions) it's not like they won't be able to make ANY trades without adding salary. They'll also, presumably, be a very good team with Tatum back and one of the few that can sign significant buyout pieces midway too, so there's more avenues to improve.

4) 2027 offseason and beyond: repeater rates would be reset and Tatum/Brown/White still have prime years left. Wouldn't be subject to repeater rates again until I believe 2031. So no reason not to consistently go into the tax for the rest of their primes and at lower tax rates they get like 4 times as much bang for their payroll buck on the tax dollars they spend.

I just don't see fans ever rising to the level of extreme hatred for ownership unless they don't go back into the tax in 2027, which I believe they would. And the dollars stretch sooooooooo much further at regular rates than repeater rates so I think they'd be setting themselves up way better to actually get over the hump and win another title in one of those years vs. playing 2027 and beyond at a reduced level because they didn't want to do more in 2026-27 (next year) than "only" add Tatum back, also add their highest pick in a long time, and replace Hauser with $20-25M of other rotation pieces. That's still extremely solid improvement to next year's team after this bridge year.

I think they would probably get decent value for Hauser; they should get at least a late first for him. He's tradeable into another teams' mid-level or TPE and a 6'7 SF making 11 million a year who can be on the floor in the conference finals or NBA finals is pretty valuable. He also has three more years on his contract through age 31.

If the Celtics can't move Simons and their young wings Hugo/Minott/Walsh/Scheierman continue to show flashes I'd be fine trading Hauser if they got back value. Moving him and allowing Simons to expire gives them 20-25 million easy to get a center. One option would be Zubac, who fits nicely into the TPE. The Celtics could send their 2026 first + draft pick(s) from Hauser trade, and absorb Zubac into the TPE. Turn Simons/Hauser into a above average center + a Tatum return could be a really good team if you get some progression from the young guys.

Or, if you'd rather keep your draft picks, you could chase someone like Hartenstein in free agency via a S&T.

I think either way you start with trying a Simons trade, but I don't think trading Hauser would necessarily mean giving up on next year.

On the offseason I would have agreed Hauser should get back a late first. He has been useless so far this year though and I don’t think you can get value back until he shows a little better this season. He has a real shot of being benched. I think right now he has no positive value sadly. The best you can hope for is getting a smaller contract back or attaching him and picks to Simons in a larger trade.

I think this is massively over indexing on 14 games this season. He has a long track record of performance; he's been a 40% 3pnt shooter as long as he's been playing ball.

I'm very confident even now somebody would give you value for him.

Look at it this way. Duncan Robinson just got 16 million a year from Detroit. Hauser is making 11 million a year. Hauser is younger than Robinson, he won't Robinson's age until the end of his current contract. He's probably also a better defender than Robinson. Making 5 million less than your market value over 4 years is 20 million in surplus value, easily worth a late first round pick.

One option would be trading Hauser to Washington at the deadline in exchange for what is pretty much guaranteed to be OKC's #30 pick. Washington can absorb him into their Mide Level and either use him to provide spacing for their young guys or flip him this offseason probably for more than the #30 pick.

[keevsnick1]

Bill Simmons trade idea:

Los Angeles Clippers receive: Zach LaVine, Dario Saric

Sacramento Kings receive: Anfernee Simons, John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic

Boston Celtics receive: Malik Monk

Not sure I would do it, haven't really thought about it. First thought is some kind of pick should be going to Boston for taking Monk's extra years.

Doesn't work anyway, Clippers are a first apron capped team and can't take on more money in a trade.

[redslastlaugh]

Honestly, the Celtics need the LA Clippers to get their crap together.
The Clippers are giving their 1st to OKC this year, that pick could be the 1st pick in the draft, top 3, etc -- a possibily REALLY good high draft pick

Celtics next title goes through OKC and if the Thunder keep winning 65 games and getting lottery picks it's gonna be approaching hopeless for us to beat them in the Jays era

Zach Lavine would at least help Clippers sniff the play in.

I didn't even comment on the Malik Monk to the Celtics part, because it's more important to stabilize the failing Clippers

Bill Simmons trade idea:

Los Angeles Clippers receive: Zach LaVine, Dario Saric

Sacramento Kings receive: Anfernee Simons, John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic

Boston Celtics receive: Malik Monk

Not sure I would do it, haven't really thought about it. First thought is some kind of pick should be going to Boston for taking Monk's extra years.

[celtxman]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

The market has changed for the worse since the Duncan Robinson, Max Strus contracts that were closer to $20 million. So Hauser's $10 million per contract in the Apron Era, when he is shooting well isn't easy to move. The way he has played this season his contract is an albatross.

[Celts17Pride]

Bill Simmons trade idea:

Los Angeles Clippers receive: Zach LaVine, Dario Saric

Sacramento Kings receive: Anfernee Simons, John Collins, Bogdan Bogdanovic

Boston Celtics receive: Malik Monk

Not sure I would do it, haven't really thought about it. First thought is some kind of pick should be going to Boston for taking Monk's extra years.

Doesn't work anyway, Clippers are a first apron capped team and can't take on more money in a trade.

Probably why it was a Bill Simmons idea

[brackdan70]

I think they would probably get decent value for Hauser; they should get at least a late first for him. He's tradeable into another teams' mid-level or TPE and a 6'7 SF making 11 million a year who can be on the floor in the conference finals or NBA finals is pretty valuable. He also has three more years on his contract through age 31.

If the Celtics can't move Simons and their young wings Hugo/Minott/Walsh/Scheierman continue to show flashes I'd be fine trading Hauser if they got back value. Moving him and allowing Simons to expire gives them 20-25 million easy to get a center. One option would be Zubac, who fits nicely into the TPE. The Celtics could send their 2026 first + draft pick(s) from Hauser trade, and absorb Zubac into the TPE. Turn Simons/Hauser into a above average center + a Tatum return could be a really good team if you get some progression from the young guys.

Or, if you'd rather keep your draft picks, you could chase someone like Hartenstein in free agency via a S&T.

I think either way you start with trying a Simons trade, but I don't think trading Hauser would necessarily mean giving up on next year.

On the offseason I would have agreed Hauser should get back a late first. He has been useless so far this year though and I don’t think you can get value back until he shows a little better this season. He has a real shot of being benched. I think right now he has no positive value sadly. The best you can hope for is getting a smaller contract back or attaching him and picks to Simons in a larger trade.

I think this is massively over indexing on 14 games this season. He has a long track record of performance; he's been a 40% 3pnt shooter as long as he's been playing ball.

I'm very confident even now somebody would give you value for him.

Look at it this way. Duncan Robinson just got 16 million a year from Detroit. Hauser is making 11 million a year. Hauser is younger than Robinson, he won't Robinson's age until the end of his current contract. He's probably also a better defender than Robinson. Making 5 million less than your market value over 4 years is 20 million in surplus value, easily worth a late first round pick.

One option would be trading Hauser to Washington at the deadline in exchange for what is pretty much guaranteed to be OKC's #30 pick. Washington can absorb him into their Mide Level and either use him to provide spacing for their young guys or flip him this offseason probably for more than the #30 pick.

Spoiler:

Idk maybe. I think he was pretty borderline in value for a pick before this season and his value certainly hasn’t increased.
It would be a contender that needs a shooter that would want him.

[Fierce1]

Celtics really need another big.

Queta's good enough, for now.

It's really very clear Mazzulla-Ball doesn't suit Simons' style of play.
Brad needs to trade Simons for a big.

Centers that I think are available are Rob Williams, Nick Richards, and maybe Vucevic.

If Queta is in foul trouble, Cs are in trouble because Garza really can't protect the paint and is not very good on defense.

Tillman is just too small for a Center.

[keevsnick1]

I have never thought Sam would get us a first, fwiw. He was excellent value, obviously, before he got his new contract. I saw someone suggest that he could have gotten 20M elsewhere, but signed with us for less. 20 mil for Sam seems insane to me. He has a niche on a true contender when he's surrounded by all star level talent. Outside that context, his limitations are quickly evident. In the playoffs, if his one trick is not working, his minutes can be costly. You have to determine quickly if he's on that night or not.

I do like his archetype on a stacked roster, though. Anyhow, I don't think he nets a first.

The market has changed for the worse since the Duncan Robinson, Max Strus contracts that were closer to $20 million. So Hauser's $10 million per contract in the Apron Era, when he is shooting well isn't easy to move. The way he has played this season his contract is an albatross.

Robinson was literally signed this past offseason, what he signed for is literally the MOST RECENT market rate. Max Strus is not a good comparison at all, he's a smaller player coming off an injury plagued season.

[keevsnick1]

On the offseason I would have agreed Hauser should get back a late first. He has been useless so far this year though and I don’t think you can get value back until he shows a little better this season. He has a real shot of being benched. I think right now he has no positive value sadly. The best you can hope for is getting a smaller contract back or attaching him and picks to Simons in a larger trade.

I think this is massively over indexing on 14 games this season. He has a long track record of performance; he's been a 40% 3pnt shooter as long as he's been playing ball.

I'm very confident even now somebody would give you value for him.

Look at it this way. Duncan Robinson just got 16 million a year from Detroit. Hauser is making 11 million a year. Hauser is younger than Robinson, he won't Robinson's age until the end of his current contract. He's probably also a better defender than Robinson. Making 5 million less than your market value over 4 years is 20 million in surplus value, easily worth a late first round pick.

One option would be trading Hauser to Washington at the deadline in exchange for what is pretty much guaranteed to be OKC's #30 pick. Washington can absorb him into their Mide Level and either use him to provide spacing for their young guys or flip him this offseason probably for more than the #30 pick.

Spoiler:

Idk maybe. I think he was pretty borderline in value for a pick before this season and his value certainly hasn’t increased.
It would be a contender that needs a shooter that would want him.

I don't think he's been "borderline" in value at any point since he signed his extension, and I really don't think 14 games this season has changed his value much at all.

GM's just don't think like that, they are basing their evaluation f a player off a larger sample than his last 14 games. Likewise if he shoots 50% from three in the next 14 games his value doesn't instantly skyrocket.

I just don't have much doubt the Celtics can move him for positive value. He's the kind of player just about any team can use. He's locked up long term on a value deal. He has been pretty healthy his whole career. If you they can't get a first they could at least get multiple seconds for him, but I don't think they'll trade him unless they get value back.

[brackdan70]

I’m struggling using the spoiler lol.
But I meant Hauser was borderline worth a late first. In my opinion anyway.
He is no way worth a 2026 first. If he starts hitting his shots maybe a heavily protected future one.
I would be really surprised if he returned a fist though. Maybe I’m off on that.