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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1521 » by Busta Bucket » Yesterday 6:48 pm

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HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol

Apparently Kevin Huerter is a better defender than Jimmy Butler, Scottie Barnes, and Davion Mitchell. :lol:
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1522 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 6:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


smaller sample size (31 games) must have took but Bagley metrically had really good defense at the rim last year (not sure how sustainable it is). Not as many shots attempted on him per game but he was right up there with Chet, Beef Stew, Clingan, Wemby, KP, Gobert, JJJ, and Kessler so he in the company of the league best rim protectors :dontknow:
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Post#1523 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 7:01 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol

Apparently Kevin Huerter is a better defender than Jimmy Butler, Scottie Barnes, and Davion Mitchell. :lol:


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1524 » by El Poochio » Yesterday 7:33 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol

Apparently Kevin Huerter is a better defender than Jimmy Butler, Scottie Barnes, and Davion Mitchell. :lol:


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Post#1525 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 7:36 pm

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Busta Bucket wrote:Apparently Kevin Huerter is a better defender than Jimmy Butler, Scottie Barnes, and Davion Mitchell. :lol:


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Post#1526 » by Busta Bucket » Yesterday 7:46 pm

I was gonna say now do Jimmy, Scottie, and Davion. :)
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Post#1527 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 7:46 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


The DEF rating doesn't seem to have as much of an impact as the defensive component ratings too. It's a real mystery box.
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Post#1528 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 7:55 pm

Busta Bucket wrote:I was gonna say now do Jimmy, Scottie, and Davion. :)


Davion I can't find exactly why he didn't get a good defense rating (60's is fine) I would have guessed him in the 70's...that is the uniqueness of DEF rating no one has found exactly how its calculated...but it has to be a combination of a few things

I thought Nesmith would be better...but then again didn't think Kessler would be that good either.

There is a component of player mix and who is on the team and how they fit with other (especially after Bish moves the players to our BAF teams) that can clearly impact some of the ratings.

Barnes while getting stocks (pretty good steals rating) hasn't been an elite defender from the stuff I look at. But still got a good +70 rating

Butler hasn't been a super impact defender in a while. He's mostly going on his younger reputation at this point. But he is still very good in the SIM.

+70 DEF with a high steal rating and 100 DI (meaning he doesn't foul at all). That is an impactful defender.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1529 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 8:06 pm

Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


The DEF rating doesn't seem to have as much of an impact as the defensive component ratings too. It's a real mystery box.


also a good defensive rating with terrible discipline isn't great either. Like if your best defenders is fouling all the time its tough for him to stay on the floor.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1530 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 8:08 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


The DEF rating doesn't seem to have as much of an impact as the defensive component ratings too. It's a real mystery box.


also a good defensive rating with terrible discipline isn't great either. Like if you best defender is fouling all the time its tough for him to stay on the floor.


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Post#1531 » by Context » Yesterday 8:38 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
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HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy


Sim probably respects his overall team build and he got boosts I think we seen it last season with the raptors and wemby.

But none the less those stats are still nuts lol.



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Post#1532 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 8:39 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:
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Sim probably respects his overall team build and he got boosts I think we seen it last season with the raptors and wemby.

But none the less those stats are still nuts lol.



Kessler being traded away from tanking suck ass Utah to our championship organization...

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you got Kessler from Boston for Bane :wink:


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Post#1533 » by HerSports85 » Yesterday 8:44 pm

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Capn'O wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


The DEF rating doesn't seem to have as much of an impact as the defensive component ratings too. It's a real mystery box.


also a good defensive rating with terrible discipline isn't great either. Like if your best defenders is fouling all the time its tough for him to stay on the floor.


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Post#1534 » by Context » Yesterday 8:46 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:

Kessler being traded away from tanking suck ass Utah to our championship organization...

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you got Kessler from Boston for Bane :wink:


IRL bro IRL...thats where Bish would have moved him after downloading the SIM.

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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1535 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 8:47 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
HEZI wrote:Walker Kessler getting Wilt Chamberlain ratings is crazy

The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


smaller sample size (31 games) must have took but Bagley metrically had really good defense at the rim last year (not sure how sustainable it is). Not as many shots attempted on him per game but he was right up there with Chet, Beef Stew, Clingan, Wemby, KP, Gobert, JJJ, and Kessler so he in the company of the league best rim protectors :dontknow:

Bruh.. :lol: you know damn well that Bagley should not be rated higher than Tatum.. you going OD to defend the sim. And I get it, you got the ratings you wanted so you think it's all justified, but it's just not realistic at all. A lot of these DEF ratings is bogus. Let's keep it 100 lol
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1536 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 8:51 pm

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Busta Bucket wrote:Apparently Kevin Huerter is a better defender than Jimmy Butler, Scottie Barnes, and Davion Mitchell. :lol:


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 9) Discussion Thread- Announcement on pg. 56 

Post#1537 » by mpharris36 » Yesterday 9:00 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:The DEF rating algorithm the sim is using has been very unrealistic in the past couple of years and it seems like it’s getting worse and worse.

Take a look at this, Bagley has a higher def rating than Tatum. Clarkson and Giddey have a higher def rating than Max Christie. Make it make sense lol


smaller sample size (31 games) must have took but Bagley metrically had really good defense at the rim last year (not sure how sustainable it is). Not as many shots attempted on him per game but he was right up there with Chet, Beef Stew, Clingan, Wemby, KP, Gobert, JJJ, and Kessler so he in the company of the league best rim protectors :dontknow:

Bruh.. :lol: you know damn well that Bagley should not be rated higher than Tatum.. you going OD to defend the sim. And I get it, you got the ratings you wanted so you think it's all justified, but it's just not realistic at all. A lot of these DEF ratings is bogus. Let's keep it 100 lol


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I'm working the off the same information we all have. You have better overall ratings than me (outside of Joker obviously). I specifically go out of my way to get defenders. It is what it is...
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Post#1538 » by Busta Bucket » Yesterday 9:23 pm

mpharris36 wrote:Davion I can't find exactly why he didn't get a good defense rating (60's is fine) I would have guessed him in the 70's...that is the uniqueness of DEF rating no one has found exactly how its calculated...but it has to be a combination of a few things

Honestly the 61 DEF rating for Davion makes me question the entire system. Ahh well, like coach Mazz says...
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Post#1539 » by Strick » Yesterday 9:29 pm

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Post#1540 » by Capn'O » Yesterday 9:30 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:Davion I can't find exactly why he didn't get a good defense rating (60's is fine) I would have guessed him in the 70's...that is the uniqueness of DEF rating no one has found exactly how its calculated...but it has to be a combination of a few things

Honestly the 61 DEF rating for Davion makes me question the entire system. Ahh well, like coach Mazz says...
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This game HATES role players who don't have an outstanding individual statistic (like steals or something). Like, Davion has underperformed so far so even though his defense has been good his ratings still suffer. It's the part of play that frustrates me a lot. DFS and Aaron Gordon were basically worthless for me.

There's a good chance Davion gets a bump next season now that he's actually getting time and playing well.
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