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Re: Post Game: Bulls Survive Nikola 

Post#121 » by HomoSapien » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:16 pm

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Jcool0 wrote:Interesting choice by Billy to bench Matas at the end for Okoro for what I assume defensive reasons.


Matas decision making has been pretty terrible. I am not sure he deserves to be out there in crunch time.


I'm somewhat okay with Billy being extra hard on Matas. That's what Matas seems to crave, and I think it'll only push him to learn and become better. I don't, however, really agree with putting in Okoro like this. Dude was getting eaten alive defensively and contributing nothing in any other facet of the game either.
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Re: Post Game: Bulls Survive Nikola 

Post#122 » by Jcool0 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:28 pm

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Jcool0 wrote:Interesting choice by Billy to bench Matas at the end for Okoro for what I assume defensive reasons.


Matas decision making has been pretty terrible. I am not sure he deserves to be out there in crunch time.


He has made some sloppy turnovers but i think his defense has been overall good.
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Post#123 » by Clint Eastwood » Tue Nov 18, 2025 6:49 pm

When dalen terry is moving 100mph with ball towards the basket, is anyone else yelling at the tv “no no no” right before his inevitable turnover? It is 100% predictable and coaching staff needs to force him to give the ball to a ball handler immediately if there is even half a defender in front of him.

Obviously the true coaching answer is to not play him until he is cut…
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Post#124 » by dougthonus » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:11 pm

CmonScal wrote:I’m a little out of the loop - is it a forgone conclusion that we won’t be able to extend Ayo (~4 for 90M IIRC) and he is going to be a UDFA? Completely agree that in that case, the market will dictate who we can bring back on board.


Not a forgone conclusion, but it is kind of the same conversation. You could also extend Huerter or Collins or any of our UFAs. So it's really the same conversation just whether you want to have it early or not.
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Post#125 » by madvillian » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:20 pm

Does anybody have any updates on Smith and Terry's injuries? I didn't even notice Smith got hurt.
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Post#126 » by Guru » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:26 pm

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HomoSapien wrote:Trenton Hassell, Keith Bogans, Isaac Okoro. It's crazy how we somehow keep getting this type of player that regularly does nothing, has a reputation of being a good defender, and becomes a coach favorite for no reason.


That no reason might be you don't know basketball.


Completely uncalled for. Take a break.


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Post#127 » by pipfan » Tue Nov 18, 2025 7:33 pm

Clint Eastwood wrote:When dalen terry is moving 100mph with ball towards the basket, is anyone else yelling at the tv “no no no” right before his inevitable turnover? It is 100% predictable and coaching staff needs to force him to give the ball to a ball handler immediately if there is even half a defender in front of him.

Obviously the true coaching answer is to not play him until he is cut…

I know what you mean, but PWill is worse. I've never watched a player who is SO predictable in his moves, and shaky with the ball. He really should just never dribble (or try to dunk, it seems)
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Post#128 » by Ice Man » Tue Nov 18, 2025 8:58 pm

pipfan wrote:I know what you mean, but PWill is worse. I've never watched a player who is SO predictable in his moves, and shaky with the ball. He really should just never dribble (or try to dunk, it seems)


Klay is similar. He never had to dribble on GS, such was the genius of Steph/Kerr/the system, but man is he exposed now that he is elsewhere. Terrible handle plus he telegraphs his moves.

But yeah, I know just what you mean. Some players have me yelling at the screen the moment that they start their move.
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Post#129 » by Clint Eastwood » Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:27 pm

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Clint Eastwood wrote:When dalen terry is moving 100mph with ball towards the basket, is anyone else yelling at the tv “no no no” right before his inevitable turnover? It is 100% predictable and coaching staff needs to force him to give the ball to a ball handler immediately if there is even half a defender in front of him.

Obviously the true coaching answer is to not play him until he is cut…

I know what you mean, but PWill is worse. I've never watched a player who is SO predictable in his moves, and shaky with the ball. He really should just never dribble (or try to dunk, it seems)


I think the problem moreso with Pat Wil is that he has perhaps the worst stone hands in all of professional sports. He can not catch the F-ing ball.
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Post#130 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:46 pm

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madvillian wrote:we won in part on great effort from the players, and also because BD finally adjusted to what the flow of the game was saying to him.


Billy not playing Okoro 40 minutes helped. Every one of Huerter's 20 points mattered obviously. Okoro again with a 2 point production as starter.


Okoro's defense just doesn't outweigh his dud games. He's pretty undersized at the three. I can't help but feel like we'd be better off just trying to get Essengue some of those minutes... heck we might be better with Phillips. I really hope we try and find an upgrade here.


Yeah he stinks. Give someone else a chance.
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Post#131 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:48 pm

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I always assumed Carter must've been bitter since he was a somewhat notable free-agent signing at the time and quickly fell completely out of the rotation for multiple seasons. In the Ayo/Matas/Giddey podcast they singled him out as the funniest player on the team but also a guy who isn't afraid to approach teammates with honesty. King said in the telecast that Carter is the first in the gym and the last to leave. Good to hear these stories. You could do a lot worse for a 12th man than Jevon Carter.


He’s set for life already if he has managed his money well. I’m sure that helps.
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Post#132 » by Peelboy » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:48 pm

madvillian wrote:Does anybody have any updates on Smith and Terry's injuries? I didn't even notice Smith got hurt.


That was IMO a borderline dirty play. Jokic locked his arm and twisted to "draw" the foul and in the process wrenched the shoulder in a manner that for a lot of us would dislocate it. Should be finable in postgame review if the league is trying to get away from injury plays.
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Post#133 » by Jcool0 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:50 pm

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pipfan wrote:I know what you mean, but PWill is worse. I've never watched a player who is SO predictable in his moves, and shaky with the ball. He really should just never dribble (or try to dunk, it seems)


Klay is similar. He never had to dribble on GS, such was the genius of Steph/Kerr/the system, but man is he exposed now that he is elsewhere. Terrible handle plus he telegraphs his moves.

But yeah, I know just what you mean. Some players have me yelling at the screen the moment that they start their move.


Klay joined Dallas at age 34 after declining in GS not sure that is similar.
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Post#134 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:50 pm

The Force. wrote:Very impressive road win but it’s concerning that we won despite the starters. Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the so called “core.”


We didn’t win in spite of Giddey and Matas. What other starters are you referring to? Unless you think Ikoro and Vuc are part of our core. Heurter isn’t either. Look harder for something to doom about.
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Post#135 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:51 pm

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Dont say that to Sco


I take Ayo over Huerter for the resign all day.

Ayo is def not a PG though. Lots of dumb turnovers.


There is no reason to resign Ayo over Huerter. Ayo is less then 2 years younger so that's not really an advantage and will want to much money if this season continues and overall Huerter is the better player. Don't let the Chicago connection blind you.


Ayo is better.
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Post#136 » by WindyCityBorn » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:52 pm

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The Force. wrote:Very impressive road win but it’s concerning that we won despite the starters. Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the so called “core.”


This team doesn’t have or rely on a core. We have a 23 year old Giddey and a 45% developed 20 year old Matas.


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Post#137 » by Jcool0 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 10:56 pm

WindyCityBorn wrote:
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I take Ayo over Huerter for the resign all day.

Ayo is def not a PG though. Lots of dumb turnovers.


There is no reason to resign Ayo over Huerter. Ayo is less then 2 years younger so that's not really an advantage and will want to much money if this season continues and overall Huerter is the better player. Don't let the Chicago connection blind you.


Ayo is better.


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Post#138 » by drosestruts » Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:09 pm

I don't understand how or why the board delved into an Ayo vs Huerter debate.

I'm happy we found a player in the 2nd round playing as well as Ayo is

I'm also happy we seem to be somewhat reviving and getting the most of Huerter, a proven playoff game riser during his time with Atlanta.

Retaining good talent is a good thing. If both continue to play well we should look to keep both.

9-10 good players is our front office philosophy afterall.
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Post#139 » by Jcool0 » Tue Nov 18, 2025 11:13 pm

drosestruts wrote:I don't understand how or why the board delved into an Ayo vs Huerter debate.

I'm happy we found a player in the 2nd round playing as well as Ayo is

I'm also happy we seem to be somewhat reviving and getting the most of Huerter, a proven playoff game riser during his time with Atlanta.

Retaining good talent is a good thing. If both continue to play well we should look to keep both.

9-10 good players is our front office philosophy afterall.


Both will be free agents next year and i cant see both taking less money to stay here so can probably only sign one.
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Post#140 » by WindyCityBorn » Wed Nov 19, 2025 12:00 am

Jcool0 wrote:
WindyCityBorn wrote:
Jcool0 wrote:
There is no reason to resign Ayo over Huerter. Ayo is less then 2 years younger so that's not really an advantage and will want to much money if this season continues and overall Huerter is the better player. Don't let the Chicago connection blind you.


Ayo is better.


bolded & underlined.


I couldn’t care less about Chicago connections. See how adamant I am against acquiring Anthony Davis. Ayo is better and I don’t believe he has peaked yet. Heurter is what he is.

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