NFC East

[Mr B]

I will say to Jerry and his drafting, and I mean this in the best way possible. He tends to go chalky/biggest name available most of the time. And to his credit, its been smart. Because you have many GMs out there that think they're the smartest in the room and get all cute come draft day. And that ends up blowing up in their face very often.

I think Howie Roseman for Philly is pretty similar. A big name/talent drops in the draft because of whatever reason, doesnt matter if they're already stacked at that position, he just grabs them. That's why it seems like after every draft the same thing is said over and over again, how did Philly end up getting that guy?? Because Roseman doesnt get too cute when it comes to the draft. For example, he already used a 1st round pick on Jordan Davis and you have guys like Fletcher Cox and Milton Willimas, then you throw in all the off the field drama with Jalen Carter. Most GMs would go with someone else. Howie on the other hand, dont care I just used a 1st for that some spot the year before and we already have depth at that spot, Carter is a beast and they drafted him.

Under Will McClay they draft almost strictly from power 5 schools. McClay has said before that he prefers guys that have played well against elite competition.

[Mr B]

The thing I like is they have both Quinnen and Clark locked up for the next 2 years after this one. So that interior D line is set. I'll say the big negative long term here is most likely Pickens walks after this year. He's going to be looking for a huge payday and I dont think they have the money for that, plus I think teams should start waking up to the idea that paying 2 WRs massive money is a horrible move.

But outside of injury, ya give me Clark and Quinnen locked up for 2+ years and an extra 1st over Parsons being the highest paid non QB. I just dont think they were anywhere close to having a complete enough roster to shell out that kind of cash on an edge rusher.

I guess the negative is that they're paying 3 guys (Williams, Clark & Osa) a lot of money.

Ya and looking at it, at its worse 21% of your cap will go to those 3 guys vs Micah at his worst will be taking up 18% of the cap. Give me those 3 plus an extra 1st vs just Micah. Plus if push comes to shove and I need cap to make another move, Id just move Osa.

Also just an aside, this is the first time in awhile Ive been on this site not using mobile. So the first time I saw the Seahawks logo next to my name. I had to double take on what was happening haha.

They could also free up more money by reworking Dak or CeeDee’s contract. That’s likely how they free up the money to sign Pickens.

I think they will also move on from guys like Terrence Steel, and Diggs that will likely free up some money.

[Duke4life831]

I guess the negative is that they're paying 3 guys (Williams, Clark & Osa) a lot of money.

Ya and looking at it, at its worse 21% of your cap will go to those 3 guys vs Micah at his worst will be taking up 18% of the cap. Give me those 3 plus an extra 1st vs just Micah. Plus if push comes to shove and I need cap to make another move, Id just move Osa.

Also just an aside, this is the first time in awhile Ive been on this site not using mobile. So the first time I saw the Seahawks logo next to my name. I had to double take on what was happening haha.

They could also free up more money by reworking Dak or CeeDee’s contract. That’s likely how they free up the money to sign Pickens.

I think they will also move on from guys like Terrence Steel, and Diggs that will likely free up some money.

Ya between Osa being an easy out after next year season and like you said, plenty of guys to rework deals or just move on as well. Cap shouldn’t be too much of an issue

[Mr B]

Not bad now, but we will see later. That’s a trade that will take a while to analyze.

Now for the REAL QUESTIONS!!!

What do you think about the Luka/AD trade after 40 games? Well, I mean Luka has played 40 games, AD has played 14..

Nico should have lost his job the moment he proposed the trade. The problem is the owners know little to nothing about basketball and they listened to the person they thought was smart and knew what he was doing. He should have been listening to Cuban instead of Nico.

He torpedoed a young Finals team. For his own safety Nico should move far away from Dallas and never come back.

At least you guys got cooper Flagg. That kid looks really good for being an 18 year old. Also think it’s a good idea going back to Cuban. He’s not only a good mind but also the guy bleeds for the mavs. Nico couldn’t care less about the mavericks. Cuban wouldn’t have traded Luka to the lakers even if the mavs got AD and 5 first round picks back..lolll

Cuban said something the other day like he would have divorced his wife before trading Luka. I actually believe him too.

The guy at the top of the list for the Mavs as a possible GM is a guy name Dennis Lindsey. He was in Dallas for several years and was close to Luka. Nico fired him a couple years ago when he was getting rid of everyone close to Luka. Cuban also wants Dirk back with the team in any capacity. The fans have been saying that there’s a chance the Mavs actually make a run at Luka in 2028 when he’s a free agent. Their cap situation is **** though with AD and Kyrie on the team. So if they want to make a legit run at Luka as a FA they have a lot of work to do between now and then.

Cooper Flagg is going to be so good! The kid is already doing things most guys don’t learn until they’re well into their careers. It will be interesting to see if they can get another top 10 pick this coming draft. It’s a really deep draft (for the NBA) and I’d love to see the Mavs get another young potential star player in the draft.

[Mr B]

I forgot max Christie was also in the Luka trade. I liked him, didn’t want him in the trade but if you have to add him to get Luka, I get it. I think he’s a great young piece though, great defense and good enough offense.

They should have got a lot more than Max Christie (although he’s been awesome here too). After the trade it was mentioned that Nico asked for Reaves and their other 1st round pick (in addition to what they got) but Pelinka asked if he could keep them to help put a team around Luka and Nico just caved. If I remember correctly Dalton Knecht was supposed to be a part of the trade too.

[Jaydubb]

When it comes to long-term, its Dallas haha. There has never been a "long-term" thought process for Dallas under Jerry. That's not his thing haha. I think the only time I think you could make an argument for Dallas thinking long term, was that 2011-2014 stretch where they used 1st round picks on Smith, Fredrick, and Martin.

Jerry is Jerry, that dude wants results instantly and his view of long term is planning out until the following year haha.

Man I remember that time. Seems like every single pick was a grand slam for them. They’ve continued to have good drafts since but I do think it’s slowed down a little

It’s definitely slowed down. Will McClay is in charge of the draft and he’s been responsible for pretty much every pick. The last couple of years he hasn’t been as good at drafting. He’s had a couple of big misses and even the later round picks have not been as good lately. It seems recently they had more success with trades (except for Mingo).

It’s almost like the eagles and cowboys flip flopped at the same time, like early 2020s. I think for the eagles and howie roseman, the turning point was passing on Justin Jefferson for Jalen reagor.lmao that was a major flop. Since then he’s taken more well known players and has hit quite a bit on picks since then.

[Jaydubb]

Nico should have lost his job the moment he proposed the trade. The problem is the owners know little to nothing about basketball and they listened to the person they thought was smart and knew what he was doing. He should have been listening to Cuban instead of Nico.

He torpedoed a young Finals team. For his own safety Nico should move far away from Dallas and never come back.

At least you guys got cooper Flagg. That kid looks really good for being an 18 year old. Also think it’s a good idea going back to Cuban. He’s not only a good mind but also the guy bleeds for the mavs. Nico couldn’t care less about the mavericks. Cuban wouldn’t have traded Luka to the lakers even if the mavs got AD and 5 first round picks back..lolll

Cuban said something the other day like he would have divorced his wife before trading Luka. I actually believe him too.

The guy at the top of the list for the Mavs as a possible GM is a guy name Dennis Lindsey. He was in Dallas for several years and was close to Luka. Nico fired him a couple years ago when he was getting rid of everyone close to Luka. Cuban also wants Dirk back with the team in any capacity. The fans have been saying that there’s a chance the Mavs actually make a run at Luka in 2028 when he’s a free agent. Their cap situation is **** though with AD and Kyrie on the team. So if they want to make a legit run at Luka as a FA they have a lot of work to do between now and then.

Cooper Flagg is going to be so good! The kid is already doing things most guys don’t learn until they’re well into their careers. It will be interesting to see if they can get another top 10 pick this coming draft. It’s a really deep draft (for the NBA) and I’d love to see the Mavs get another young potential star player in the draft.

If he goes back to Dallas, that would be so crazy. I just can’t see the lakers letting him go. Mark Walter’s bought the lakers recently and he’s also the owner of the dodgers and I’ll just say, he does whatever it takes to keep or go out and get his guys. But I will say this, I could tell Luka still loves Dallas. But I also think he’s hurt too much to go back but we will see. That would be one of the craziest turn of events ever.

I think I mentioned this to you on the other site years ago but dirk is another guy I always liked. He’s a guy I always dreamed about playing with Kobe. I think that would’ve been so much fun, I know you’d hate that idea.lmfaaao

[Jaydubb]

I forgot max Christie was also in the Luka trade. I liked him, didn’t want him in the trade but if you have to add him to get Luka, I get it. I think he’s a great young piece though, great defense and good enough offense.

They should have got a lot more than Max Christie (although he’s been awesome here too). After the trade it was mentioned that Nico asked for Reaves and their other 1st round pick (in addition to what they got) but Pelinka asked if he could keep them to help put a team around Luka and Nico just caved. If I remember correctly Dalton Knecht was supposed to be a part of the trade too.

Reaves honestly would’ve made the trade a lot more fair in my opinion. That guy is so good, it’s crazy how good he’s playing. I’m not gonna lie, that’s far exceeded my expectations and I’m usually optimistic about prospects but I try to stay somewhat realistic. I don’t know what’s gonna happen with him but I’m just gonna assume the lakers will just ask doncic what he prefers. They’ve been rumored to trading him for a star and others say he is the star. He’s definitely opting out after this year though, ain’t no way he’s taking that player option. He can easily make like twice that in free agency if not way more.

As far as knecht, I don’t know what to think about him. Sometimes he has a crazy shooting night but then will be quiet for like a month..lol and his defense sucks. Part of me kinda would’ve preferred to keep Christie over knecht, but it is what it is. I like 2way players like max Christie.

[Mr B]

Man I remember that time. Seems like every single pick was a grand slam for them. They’ve continued to have good drafts since but I do think it’s slowed down a little

It’s definitely slowed down. Will McClay is in charge of the draft and he’s been responsible for pretty much every pick. The last couple of years he hasn’t been as good at drafting. He’s had a couple of big misses and even the later round picks have not been as good lately. It seems recently they had more success with trades (except for Mingo).

It’s almost like the eagles and cowboys flip flopped at the same time, like early 2020s. I think for the eagles and howie roseman, the turning point was passing on Justin Jefferson for Jalen reagor.lmao that was a major flop. Since then he’s taken more well known players and has hit quite a bit on picks since then.

Yea also the Eagles had high picks right when all those Georgia players went pro. Specifically Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. I’ve said it on here before that I believe teams should be built from the inside-out. They are who I wanted the Cowboys to draft.

[Cactus Jack]

When it comes to long-term, its Dallas haha. There has never been a "long-term" thought process for Dallas under Jerry. That's not his thing haha. I think the only time I think you could make an argument for Dallas thinking long term, was that 2011-2014 stretch where they used 1st round picks on Smith, Fredrick, and Martin.

Jerry is Jerry, that dude wants results instantly and his view of long term is planning out until the following year haha.

Man I remember that time. Seems like every single pick was a grand slam for them. They’ve continued to have good drafts since but I do think it’s slowed down a little

It’s definitely slowed down. Will McClay is in charge of the draft and he’s been responsible for pretty much every pick. The last couple of years he hasn’t been as good at drafting. He’s had a couple of big misses and even the later round picks have not been as good lately. It seems recently they had more success with trades (except for Mingo).

Yeah, that's because they we're picking guys (Mazi) based on a specific need (D-Tackle). Mazi was not viewed as a consensus 1st round talent at the time. A year later, they also badly needed a Left Tackle (Guyton). Still, Guyton was universally viewed as a project.

The Kneeland & Schoonmaker picks could be viewed similarly.

It's not a secret that the success rate is typically lower when teams draft a player out of necessity. That's why those picks haven't worked out like some others.

If anyone deserves blame, it's Jerry for not addressing those needs earlier & forcing the issue.

[Mr B]

At least you guys got cooper Flagg. That kid looks really good for being an 18 year old. Also think it’s a good idea going back to Cuban. He’s not only a good mind but also the guy bleeds for the mavs. Nico couldn’t care less about the mavericks. Cuban wouldn’t have traded Luka to the lakers even if the mavs got AD and 5 first round picks back..lolll

Cuban said something the other day like he would have divorced his wife before trading Luka. I actually believe him too.

The guy at the top of the list for the Mavs as a possible GM is a guy name Dennis Lindsey. He was in Dallas for several years and was close to Luka. Nico fired him a couple years ago when he was getting rid of everyone close to Luka. Cuban also wants Dirk back with the team in any capacity. The fans have been saying that there’s a chance the Mavs actually make a run at Luka in 2028 when he’s a free agent. Their cap situation is **** though with AD and Kyrie on the team. So if they want to make a legit run at Luka as a FA they have a lot of work to do between now and then.

Cooper Flagg is going to be so good! The kid is already doing things most guys don’t learn until they’re well into their careers. It will be interesting to see if they can get another top 10 pick this coming draft. It’s a really deep draft (for the NBA) and I’d love to see the Mavs get another young potential star player in the draft.

If he goes back to Dallas, that would be so crazy. I just can’t see the lakers letting him go. Mark Walter’s bought the lakers recently and he’s also the owner of the dodgers and I’ll just say, he does whatever it takes to keep or go out and get his guys. But I will say this, I could tell Luka still loves Dallas. But I also think he’s hurt too much to go back but we will see. That would be one of the craziest turn of events ever.

I think I mentioned this to you on the other site years ago but dirk is another guy I always liked. He’s a guy I always dreamed about playing with Kobe. I think that would’ve been so much fun, I know you’d hate that idea.lmfaaao

Dirk is awesome. He has to be involved with the team in some kind of way. It’s killing Mavs fans to see him attending Lakers games. I thought that if Dumont wasn’t going to look to Cuban to find the new GM he should ask Dirk to find the guy. Dirk doesn’t have the experience to be the GM himself but he does have enough knowledge and connections to find the right guy.

And I’m not holding my breath waiting for Luka. Like I said the Mavs would have to clear a ton of money. Luka would have to force his way out for the Mavs to have any chance and I don’t see that happening. He’s having fun again and looks like he’s better being with AR.

[Mr B]

I forgot max Christie was also in the Luka trade. I liked him, didn’t want him in the trade but if you have to add him to get Luka, I get it. I think he’s a great young piece though, great defense and good enough offense.

They should have got a lot more than Max Christie (although he’s been awesome here too). After the trade it was mentioned that Nico asked for Reaves and their other 1st round pick (in addition to what they got) but Pelinka asked if he could keep them to help put a team around Luka and Nico just caved. If I remember correctly Dalton Knecht was supposed to be a part of the trade too.

Reaves honestly would’ve made the trade a lot more fair in my opinion. That guy is so good, it’s crazy how good he’s playing. I’m not gonna lie, that’s far exceeded my expectations and I’m usually optimistic about prospects but I try to stay somewhat realistic. I don’t know what’s gonna happen with him but I’m just gonna assume the lakers will just ask doncic what he prefers. They’ve been rumored to trading him for a star and others say he is the star. He’s definitely opting out after this year though, ain’t no way he’s taking that player option. He can easily make like twice that in free agency if not way more.

As far as knecht, I don’t know what to think about him. Sometimes he has a crazy shooting night but then will be quiet for like a month..lol and his defense sucks. Part of me kinda would’ve preferred to keep Christie over knecht, but it is what it is. I like 2way players like max Christie.

Christie has been shooting lights out too. He looks a little stronger this year and he’s been much more aggressive shooting 3’s. I’m excited to see them (Cooper and Flagg) on a fast break with Kyrie. I wish he’d get a haircut though.

[Mr B]

Man I remember that time. Seems like every single pick was a grand slam for them. They’ve continued to have good drafts since but I do think it’s slowed down a little

It’s definitely slowed down. Will McClay is in charge of the draft and he’s been responsible for pretty much every pick. The last couple of years he hasn’t been as good at drafting. He’s had a couple of big misses and even the later round picks have not been as good lately. It seems recently they had more success with trades (except for Mingo).

Yeah, that's because they we're picking guys (Mazi) based on a specific need (D-Tackle). Mazi was not viewed as a consensus 1st round talent at the time. A year later, they also badly needed a Left Tackle (Guyton). Still, Guyton was universally viewed as a project.

The Kneeland & Schoonmaker picks could be viewed similarly.

It's not a secret that the success rate is typically lower when teams draft a player out of necessity. That's why those picks haven't worked out like some others.

If anyone deserves blame, it's Jerry for not addressing those needs earlier & forcing the issue.

Don’t forget they also drafted Luke Schoonmaker when they absolutely did not need a TE. Then of course Marshawn Kneeland.

Edit: I should have read your entire post before responding.

And I agree, 99.9% of the time you draft BPA

[Cactus Jack]

Yeah, that's because they we're picking guys (Mazi) based on a specific need (D-Tackle). Mazi was not viewed as a consensus 1st round talent at the time. A year later, they also badly needed a Left Tackle (Guyton). Still, Guyton was universally viewed as a project.

The Kneeland & Schoonmaker picks could be viewed similarly.

It's not a secret that the success rate is typically lower when teams draft a player out of necessity. That's why those picks haven't worked out like some others.

If anyone deserves blame, it's Jerry for not addressing those needs earlier & forcing the issue.

Don’t forget they also drafted Luke Schoonmaker when they absolutely did not need a TE. Then of course Marshawn Kneeland.

Wasn't Schoonmaker a Dalton Schultz replacement? Or am I thinking of the other guy? Yeah, that pick made little sense.

Kneeland was supposedly a Tank Lawrence replacement? A big end. He came from a smaller school. But he didn't really flash all that much from what I remember.

[Mr B]

Yeah, that's because they we're picking guys (Mazi) based on a specific need (D-Tackle). Mazi was not viewed as a consensus 1st round talent at the time. A year later, they also badly needed a Left Tackle (Guyton). Still, Guyton was universally viewed as a project.

The Kneeland & Schoonmaker picks could be viewed similarly.

It's not a secret that the success rate is typically lower when teams draft a player out of necessity. That's why those picks haven't worked out like some others.

If anyone deserves blame, it's Jerry for not addressing those needs earlier & forcing the issue.

Don’t forget they also drafted Luke Schoonmaker when they absolutely did not need a TE. Then of course Marshawn Kneeland.

Wasn't Schoonmaker a Dalton Schultz replacement? Or am I thinking of the other guy? Yeah, that pick made little sense.

Kneeland was supposedly a Tank Lawrence replacement? A big end. But he didn't really flash all that much from what I remember.

Yea Schoon was drafted to replace Schultz. They already had Ferguson though who had a good rookie season. They didn’t need to go TE that early.

And yea Kneeland was supposed to be Lawrence’s replacement. He got injured his rookie season and this season had been solid but not spectacular until he passed away.

[QB_Eagles]

Interesting question. As good as Micah is at rushing the passer I have to I’d still go with option A.

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They still have to pay George Pickens.

Right now without any restructuring, Williams' and Clark's contracts combined equal that of Micah.

[QB_Eagles]

He torpedoed a young Finals team. For his own safety Nico should move far away from Dallas and never come back.

But you were perfectly happy to blow up a team of Finals LOSERS.

[QB_Eagles]

Got the receipts:

Lakers fans should actually be more upset than Mavs fans, because Luka is a loser while Davis is a winner.

That’s what I’ve been saying. There’s no question the Mavs are better today than they were before trading Luka.

[QB_Eagles]

Can't imagine the dribble coming out of the Egal trolls and derailers this week.

You have to imagine because you are scared of text on screen and had to block us.

Meanwhile your dribble is all too real. I hope at least the butt sex is better now that you decided to use lube.

[El Turco]

Interesting question. As good as Micah is at rushing the passer I have to I’d still go with option A.

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They still have to pay George Pickens.

Right now without any restructuring, Williams' and Clark's contracts combined equal that of Micah.

Yeah, that preposition is wrong , you can’t count Pickens as part of the Micah deal. Also, their first-rounder is more or less going to equal a second-rounder plus a third-rounder in value.

Both options suck, by the way. Tying up so much value in one player when you have so many holes is not good. And now they don’t have any pass rushers or cornerbacks. You can survive in today’s NFL without stopping the run, but it’s practically impossible if you have bad pass rushers and a bad secondary.