2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[Rodrickle]

Does Agbaji for Nick Richards make sense

Absolute no brainer for us. Gets us more size, gets us out of the luxury tax. Helps Poeltl giving him a bit more rest.

But Phoenix has a lot of depth at the 2. I think they could use a point guard and maybe a big forward

[Mr Swagtastic]

Atlanta Hawks get:
Immanuel Quickley
Maxi Kleber
2026 Toronto Raptors Unprotected First Round Draft Pick
2028 Toronto Raptors Unprotected First Round Draft Pick
2030 Toronto Raptors Unprotected First Round Draft Pick
2032 Toronto Raptors Unprotected First Round Draft Pick

-Gives: Trae Young

Toronto Raptors get:
Trae Young
Jarred Vanderbilt

-Gives: Immanuel Quickley, RJ Barrett and four unprotected first round draft picks

Why: They use four first rounders to essentially turn Quickley's and Barrett's salary slots into a bigger time player in Trae Young.

These overpay deals need to stop. Trae is not worth 4 firsts that's a joke offer. You probably get Devin Booker for that or a better player than Trae.

[Dennis 37]

I guess this post falls under the category of "the grass is always greener..."

https://dailyknicks.com/rj-barrett-finally-player-knicks-fans-dreamed

All those who want to trade Barrett should read this article.

All we do is harp on his defense. Let's have some patience. Maybe with increased time with the other starters, it hasn't been that many games, maybe his team defense will improve too.

[TGM]

[quote="Dennis 37"][quote="Van_Trump"]I guess this post falls under the category of "the grass is always greener..."

https://dailyknicks.com/rj-barrett-finally-player-knicks-fans-dreamed

All those who want to trade Barrett should read this article.[/quote]

All we do is harp on his defense. Let's have some patience. Maybe with increased time with the other starters, it hasn't been that many games, maybe his team defense will improve too.[/quote]

I've been saying this for a while, RJ is Demar 2.0 for us. He seems like a guy that is gradually flourishing. Only question is some has to go if we make a big trade. I guess it could be Barnes, but I think you keep the guy that anchors your defense. I think if you can re-up Barrett at around 20-25 million a season you do it. I definitely wouldn't trade him with concerns of him leaving as a FA. I think he is one of those guys we can wait to see what the market dictates.

[Johnston]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

[MiamiSPX]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

Top 5 players in missed games due to injury over the last 5 seasons:

Ben Simmons 234
Zion 210
Kawhi 191
LaMelo 169
Jamal Murray 161

Not a chance in hell. He makes Brandon Ingram look like AC Green.

[Spida888]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

Top 5 players in missed games due to injury over the last 5 seasons:

Ben Simmons 234
Zion 210
Kawhi 191
LaMelo 169
Jamal Murray 161

Not a chance in hell. He makes Brandon Ingram look like AC Green.

Lamelo's talent is there but dude is made of glass.
His contract appears to be fully guaranteed money too. No conditions for partial guarantees depending on health, that's crazy.
If you twist my arm, I'd consider RJ + Ochai but it puts us deeper into the tax and hamstrings our cap. So I don't know.

[MiamiSPX]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

Top 5 players in missed games due to injury over the last 5 seasons:

Ben Simmons 234
Zion 210
Kawhi 191
LaMelo 169
Jamal Murray 161

Not a chance in hell. He makes Brandon Ingram look like AC Green.

Lamelo's talent is there but dude is made of glass.
His contract appears to be fully guaranteed money too. No conditions for partial guarantees depending on health, that's crazy.
If you twist my arm, I'd consider RJ + Ochai but it puts us deeper into the tax and hamstrings our cap. So I don't know.

I'd also argue that from that list, LaMelo is the most concerning because he's also the youngest and there is no known condition or reason that we can point to. Simmons we know it mostly wasn't physical, Zion can't keep the weight off, Kawhi has a degenerative condition.

Not saying it hasn't happened or can't happen but how often do we see a guy with so many injuries at such a young age, suddenly become durable?

[TorontoBarneys]

I would be interested in acquiring a 3rd star alongside Barnes & Ingram but don't think Ball/AD are good candidates.

[Mr Swagtastic]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

There was a time when Lamelo Ball made sense in Toronto not anymore with his injury history that right ankle has been nagging him since the fracture 2 years ago. He's missed big chunks of the season and yes 1/4 it's a lot of a season.

Not trying to see him in Toronto at this price I think Quickley is starting to figure it out with the new squad and Poeltl in the lineup really helps his game.

I wouldn't include Gradey in the deal maybe Ochai if I were doing the deal or Walter but Toronto needs Gradey's spacing off the bench

[DreamTeam09]

The obvious deal is the Ochai for D. Sharpe on BK. We got 2nds to send out. Size is welcomed for us

[Johnston]

It seems like Charlotte fans have soured on Lamelo Ball. IQ+Dick or Ochai works on the trade checker. Would be be interested in it?

For reference someone suggest Brooks/Grayson Allen fo Ball and they seemed ok with it.

Cheers

There was a time when Lamelo Ball made sense in Toronto not anymore with his injury history that right ankle has been nagging him since the fracture 2 years ago. He's missed big chunks of the season and yes 1/4 it's a lot of a season.

Not trying to see him in Toronto at this price I think Quickley is starting to figure it out with the new squad and Poeltl in the lineup really helps his game.

I wouldn't include Gradey in the deal maybe Ochai if I were doing the deal or Walter but Toronto needs Gradey's spacing off the bench

That makes sense. I knew he was Injury prone but IQ hasn't been the epitome of health either so I looked at their games played....in 4 season IQ has played 100 more games that Ball...yikes lol.

[Mark_83]

What would it take to get Mark Williams from Phoenix? They didn't extend him and he's an RFA next summer.

[CazOnReal]

What would it take to get Mark Williams from Phoenix? They didn't extend him and he's an RFA next summer.

I don't see them moving their starting center anytime soon. Not unless Malauch breaks out in December or something.

[TGM]

As much as I would like us to make a big trade this year. I have a feeling we don't acquire another big piece until the off-season at the earliest.

Bobby probably wants to see what this team can do from organic growth first and see what we need to push us over the top. With that being said if a perennial all-star becomes available, he'll probably make the trade. If Giannis comes to market you got to make a push to trade for him.

Question is let's say if a Joel Embidd becomes available at a super reasonable price, do you role the dice. Joel when healthy is a beast, but his knees seem pretty shot. So I think his value might even be negative at this point.

[billy_hoyle]

As much as I would like us to make a big trade this year. I have a feeling we don't acquire another big piece until the off-season at the earliest.

Bobby probably wants to see what this team can do from organic growth first and see what we need to push us over the top. With that being said if a perennial all-star becomes available, he'll probably make the trade. If Giannis comes to market you got to make a push to trade for him.

Question is let's say if a Joel Embidd becomes available at a super reasonable price, do you role the dice. Joel when healthy is a beast, but his knees seem pretty shot. So I think his value might even be negative at this point.

You need to match salaries. Embiid forces us to trade two starters for him (or a big salary and filler). We don't have a Bruce Brown sized filler contract.

[anotherhomer]

As much as I would like us to make a big trade this year. I have a feeling we don't acquire another big piece until the off-season at the earliest.

Bobby probably wants to see what this team can do from organic growth first and see what we need to push us over the top. With that being said if a perennial all-star becomes available, he'll probably make the trade. If Giannis comes to market you got to make a push to trade for him.

Question is let's say if a Joel Embidd becomes available at a super reasonable price, do you role the dice. Joel when healthy is a beast, but his knees seem pretty shot. So I think his value might even be negative at this point.

You need to match salaries. Embiid forces us to trade two starters for him (or a big salary and filler). We don't have a Bruce Brown sized filler contract.

i think raps will build organically unless there's another buy-low situation like Ingram (btw, i was among those who was a fan of the trade back then)
the argument being Ingram was alrdy at the level Ace Bailey was

[Psubs]

What would it take to get Mark Williams from Phoenix? They didn't extend him and he's an RFA next summer.

I don't see them moving their starting center anytime soon. Not unless Malauch breaks out in December or something.

Ya, should get Nik Richards for Agbaji. Richards is a FA in the summer while Agbaji is a RFA.

[Lord_Zedd]

What would it take to get Mark Williams from Phoenix? They didn't extend him and he's an RFA next summer.

I don't see them moving their starting center anytime soon. Not unless Malauch breaks out in December or something.

Ya, should get Nik Richards for Agbaji. Richards is a FA in the summer while Agbaji is a RFA.

Phx won't do this - as mentioned earlier they have way too many guards/wings, and they're inches away from avoiding the tax all together.

[MessiahUjiri]

The obvious deal is the Ochai for D. Sharpe on BK. We got 2nds to send out. Size is welcomed for us

I was thinking along the same lines. This makes a lot of sense