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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#121 » by Cammo101 » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:17 pm

Dat2U wrote:I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.


He is a below the rim player for the most point without being anything close to the athlete pre-injury Blake was. I'm a bit worried that Boozer is a great college player who will be just a pretty good NBA player, like Jabari Parker or Marvin Bagley whose skill couldn't offset the athleticism deficiency.

I like Boozer a lot, but could see him landing closer to pick #8 than pick #3 when this draft comes around.
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#122 » by Dat2U » Wed Nov 19, 2025 10:23 pm

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Dat2U wrote:I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.


He is a below the rim player for the most point without being anything close to the athlete pre-injury Blake was. I'm a bit worried that Boozer is a great college player who will be just a pretty good NBA player, like Jabari Parker or Marvin Bagley whose skill couldn't offset the athleticism deficiency.

I like Boozer a lot, but could see him landing closer to pick #8 than pick #3 when this draft comes around.


Blake Griffin in Detroit was mostly floor bound. What Boozer lacks is the craft & skill of a 10-yr vet with the ball in hands. Time will tell if he can polish his handle & finish ability to adjust to the level in competition.
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#123 » by threethehardway » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:11 am

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good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.


I don't see Kevin Love because Cam is actually athletic.

He just isn't basketball athletic. He's like strongman athletic.

And I also see him just being a new age Tyler Hansboro or a Knicks Larry Johnson.

I don't like comparing college players to NBA HOF because most of them will never be that good.

Only reason I can see Suns Charles Barkley in his game is because of his energy, pace in transition and how he throws his body around. He's the most physical player on the court.
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Post#124 » by Hoopz Afrik » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:16 am

I may have mentioned this year but I'm not sure. He feels like a hybrid of Al Horford and Paul Millsap (Atlanta version of both) to me. I'm still very much in on him as a prospect.
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Post#125 » by RookieStar » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:28 am

Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.
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Post#126 » by bigboi » Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:19 am

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:
good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.


I don't see Kevin Love because Cam is actually athletic.

He just isn't basketball athletic. He's like strongman athletic.

And I also see him just being a new age Tyler Hansboro or a Knicks Larry Johnson.

I don't like comparing college players to NBA HOF because most of them will never be that good.

Only reason I can see Suns Charles Barkley in his game is because of his energy, pace in transition and how he throws his body around. He's the most physical player on the court.


Buddy, he’s no where near Larry Johnson athletically. What exactly makes him more athletic than fat Kevin love? Kevin Love was even bigger
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#127 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:26 am

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:
good comps tbh. PHO Barkley won MVP. DET Griffin was an all-star. Kevin Love is my comp and Love is a Hall of Famer. I think people are being too harsh. Remember, there's a legit possibility he's outside the top 5 come draft night.


I don't see Kevin Love because Cam is actually athletic.

He just isn't basketball athletic. He's like strongman athletic.

And I also see him just being a new age Tyler Hansboro or a Knicks Larry Johnson.

I don't like comparing college players to NBA HOF because most of them will never be that good.

Only reason I can see Suns Charles Barkley in his game is because of his energy, pace in transition and how he throws his body around. He's the most physical player on the court.

What? Do you not remember prime Love? People always talked about how strong he was. That was one of the reasons he was such a great rebounder. The dude moved people with ease.

Again I’m a huge Boozer fan, love that he’s at Duke and not Miami. But no he’s not athletic (when compared to NBA players). He’s 6’8-6’9 and plays below the rim. And it’s not like he’s super agile or fast either, if anything his foot speed is by far his biggest negative. It looks like he’s running in mud sometimes to other guys.

Yes he is strong and plays strong. Which again goes back to the old school classic PFs. The ZBos, Love, Carlos Boozer, and so on. The classic 6’8-6’9 big strong forwards who mainly played below the rim and didnt have the size to play the 5 or the athleticism to play out on the perimeter.

Cam Boozer is essentially the poster child of what the old school PFs used to be. The only problem is, those players have become extinct in the NBA.
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#128 » by The Master » Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:59 am

First, Kevin Love was a shooting big operating a lot in the mid-post in his Wolves days. His problems were, first, that playing alongside LeBron he lost these mid-post touches (as it was correctly stated, he was so strong that he had an amazing FT rate, over 8 FTA in his last Wolves season), second, that he was pretty bad as a perimeter defender. Also, he just wasn't good enough as a vertical threat to 'recover' touches he lost as an iso scorer/facilitator on offense, so to say he was 'operating mainly below the rim' is a reach as well. But yeah, he was super strong.

Second, these guys like Randolph or Boozer weren't impactful passers, 3pt shooters, nor good perimeter defenders. They were pretty good as rollers / mid-range shooters for their era and an inefficient way of playing basketball/ iso scorers in an era of traditional two-big-men lineups and a relative lack of offensive talent.

Boozer Jr. has similar size, but he's also better as a perimeter defender, averages over 4 assists a game, can initiate his and his team's offense from the perimeter, averages almost five 3s a game so far, and has a decent projection as a shooter.

As much as I agree that Boozer is overrated as a prospect (although I believe that he'll be a very good player) - he looks like a contemporary power forward, who shoots 3s and plays power forward-ish role. He may not be good enough as an athlete/offensive player to become a superstar, but it's fascinating to see him being compared to players like his dad or Zach Randolph on regular basis.

His problem isn't his playing style per se, but the fact that I don't see any singular superstar quality from him from long term projection perspective. Caleb Wilson looks like a defensive dream for any team with his portability and versatility, his athleticism is off the charts, and his offensive game is far more advanced than anyone anticipated. This is something I NEED to see from Boozer to have him near top3 next year.
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#129 » by tontoz » Thu Nov 20, 2025 2:17 pm

RookieStar wrote:Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.



Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.
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Post#130 » by ReggiesKnicks » Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:23 pm

The Master wrote:Second, these guys like Randolph or Boozer weren't impactful passers, 3pt shooters, nor good perimeter defenders. They were pretty good as rollers / mid-range shooters for their era and an inefficient way of playing basketball/ iso scorers in an era of traditional two-big-men lineups and a relative lack of offensive talent.

Boozer Jr. has similar size, but he's also better as a perimeter defender, averages over 4 assists a game, can initiate his and his team's offense from the perimeter, averages almost five 3s a game so far, and has a decent projection as a shooter.


That's sort of where the Boozer/Randolph comparisons fall short though, right? Boozer looks like he has an innate feel for the game and his passing shows a level of awareness, court-awareness and anticipation which, as a prospect, provides him with both a floor and a ceiling where he could be an offensive centrepiece (to various degrees). Getting to a legitimate 1st option is incredibly difficult, just look at how lethargic someone like Paolo Banchero is in that regard.

As much as I agree that Boozer is overrated as a prospect (although I believe that he'll be a very good player) - he looks like a contemporary power forward, who shoots 3s and plays power forward-ish role. He may not be good enough as an athlete/offensive player to become a superstar, but it's fascinating to see him being compared to players like his dad or Zach Randolph on regular basis.

His problem isn't his playing style per se, but the fact that I don't see any singular superstar quality from him from long term projection perspective. Caleb Wilson looks like a defensive dream for any team with his portability and versatility, his athleticism is off the charts, and his offensive game is far more advanced than anyone anticipated. This is something I NEED to see from Boozer to have him near top3 next year.


Yeah, that's what likely prevents him from being Top 2 or whatever, but one would need to assess the entire draft and isolate the actual prospects who do possess a skill which could be extrapolated to becoming a super star.

FWIW, we have seen a resurgence of grounded players excel in the NBA in large part because the current NBA is so much based on IQ, Feel and Anticipation. It is entirely possible Cameron Boozer can replicate much of what Domantas Sabonis can do offensively as a bruiser with playmaking chops offensively but then Boozer clearly has far more defensive aptitude.

The totality of the skill-level and feel Boozer possesses is high for a prospect, and he should undoubtedly be a Top 5 pick in any draft, and I see this draft no different.
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#131 » by bigboi » Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:42 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.


He is a below the rim player for the most point without being anything close to the athlete pre-injury Blake was. I'm a bit worried that Boozer is a great college player who will be just a pretty good NBA player, like Jabari Parker or Marvin Bagley whose skill couldn't offset the athleticism deficiency.

I like Boozer a lot, but could see him landing closer to pick #8 than pick #3 when this draft comes around.


Parker is 10x more athletic than boozer. What in the heck are yall folks talking about? Lmao. Parker’s weakness was defense and bad knees. Otherwise, he was on pace to be an all star player by year 3. Plus Parker and Boozer play nothing alike
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#132 » by bigboi » Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:43 pm

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Dat2U wrote:I see alot of Blake Griffin in Detroit pre-injury. More floor bound, but very productive, an offensive hub and respectable on defense but not guy who is deterring shots.


He is a below the rim player for the most point without being anything close to the athlete pre-injury Blake was. I'm a bit worried that Boozer is a great college player who will be just a pretty good NBA player, like Jabari Parker or Marvin Bagley whose skill couldn't offset the athleticism deficiency.

I like Boozer a lot, but could see him landing closer to pick #8 than pick #3 when this draft comes around.


Blake Griffin in Detroit was mostly floor bound. What Boozer lacks is the craft & skill of a 10-yr vet with the ball in hands. Time will tell if he can polish his handle & finish ability to adjust to the level in competition.


Blake griffin in Detroit was an elite player and still had better athleticism as well as handle than Boozer. Boozer doesn’t have the dribbling ability, passing skills, nor athleticism. Plus he’s better than Blake at defense. Boozer will most likely be somewhere between Al Horford, Paul Millsap, Kevin Love
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#133 » by Cammo101 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:24 pm

tontoz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.



Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.


Koa also has the handles to create for himself and play downhill, whereas right now Boozer is a mostly back to the basket old school post big. I don't see their styles being very similar, but both are built like tanks.
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Post#134 » by tontoz » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:44 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.



Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.


Koa also has the handles to create for himself and play downhill, whereas right now Boozer is a mostly back to the basket old school post big. I don't see their styles being very similar, but both are built like tanks.



Koa is like a weird combination of SF and C.
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Post#135 » by azcatz11 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 8:24 pm

tontoz wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
tontoz wrote:

Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.


Koa also has the handles to create for himself and play downhill, whereas right now Boozer is a mostly back to the basket old school post big. I don't see their styles being very similar, but both are built like tanks.



Koa is like a weird combination of SF and C.


It's interesting as an Arizona fan watching Koa. He's literally the polar opposite of Carter Bryant on offense. I'm still struggling with his NBA projection
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Post#136 » by RookieStar » Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:10 pm

tontoz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.



Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.


This might just be me but I think Cam is stronger BUT he plays like those gentle giants who are afraid their every move could hurt somebody so they act delicately. Where watching Koa I thought he has that " Get TF out of my way" mindset so he appears stronger.

Who knows really
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Post#137 » by tontoz » Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:15 pm

RookieStar wrote:
tontoz wrote:
RookieStar wrote:Im watching Koa Peat right now and im thinking, who is stronger, him or cam?

They play so much alike for me.



Koa is definitely stronger and faster, but probably shorter as well. Much craftier finishing around the rim but wont shoot outside 15 feet.


This might just be me but I think Cam is stronger BUT he plays like those gentle giants who are afraid their every move could hurt somebody so they act delicately. Where watching Koa I thought he has that " Get TF out of my way" mindset so he appears stronger.

Who knows really



Boozer tries to bully guys all the time. That is his standard move almost every time he drives. Problem is that against bigs on good teams that doesn't work very often.
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Post#138 » by The-Power » Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:22 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Cam Boozer is essentially the poster child of what the old school PFs used to be. The only problem is, those players have become extinct in the NBA.

Repeating my question again here:

The-Power wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA?

But is he a classic PF when he has a 3pt shot and facilitates so well from all over the court? And does he play any more below-the-rim than your typical NBA PF?


Yeah, there are some similarities but he's very far from a poster child of an old-school PF.
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Post#139 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:35 pm

The-Power wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Cam Boozer is essentially the poster child of what the old school PFs used to be. The only problem is, those players have become extinct in the NBA.

Repeating my question again here:

The-Power wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:The question will remain, is there a role for a 6'8-6'9 below the rim classic PF in current day NBA?

But is he a classic PF when he has a 3pt shot and facilitates so well from all over the court? And does he play any more below-the-rim than your typical NBA PF?


Yeah, there are some similarities but he's very far from a poster child of an old-school PF.


I mean to start the season he’s been an average college 3pt shooter, he’s at 35% at the moment. So it’s not like he’s some high level perimeter scorer. And Love turned himself to a pretty good 3pt shooter but only made 2 all star games past the age of 25.

I think there are two big question marks with Boozer at the next level. How do you hide him defensively, and can he become a big enough threat out on the perimeter where he doesn’t negatively affect spacing.

This is what made guys like his dad and Love extinct in the current NBA. Teams started putting guys like Tatum and Durant at the 4. Slower footed 4s couldn’t defend them out on the perimeter and being 6’8-6’9 and below the rim guys, they weren’t really equipped to play small ball 5s either. While also not providing all that great of spacing on the other end.

Now to be perfectly fair, I basically said all these same things about Kon. And he’s proven to be skilled and crafty enough where his lack of foot speed really hasn’t slowed him down. So Boozer can end up doing the exact same thing.

But as of right now, I just don’t see too many slow footed 6’8-6’9 guys who play below the rim making a huge impact in the NBA at the moment. As a big Boozer fan, I’d love for him to be the different guy here. Just saying if I had a top 5 pick, I’m not sure I’d be willing to take that gamble
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Re: Cameron Boozer 

Post#140 » by EvanZ » Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:00 am

I had very similar criticisms of Paolo and still do tbh. I’m still not convinced long term you can win building around this archetype. And Paolo is more dynamic on offense then Cam by a good amount.

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