So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up?

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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#61 » by bkkrh » Today 4:57 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:the conspiracy theorist in me thinks Ballmer is happily being used to help the NBA conduct its business. He drastically overpays for the franchise thus driving franchise values up. He makes moronic moves sending draft picks to other franchises for washes stars who he then overpays which makes agents and the NBAPA happy. He builds an arena for a team without a fanbase all privately funded. He ensures they're a joke so they won't ever compete with the Lakers who are the league's golden child. Nothing the man has done since becoming owner makes sense and it all points to him being a company man happy to play his role as long as he is part of an exclusive club. For doing his part, eventually they'll throw him a bone and the Clippers will win the NBA lottery in a loaded draft landing a true superstar, after he's completed his humiliation ritual.


And what exactly would be the point of that? The Lakers were horrible for years after Kobe´s injury and before Lebron´s arrival and it had 0 impact on their popularity. Same as for the Knicks sucking for more than a decade. The Nets moving to Brooklyn and building 2 "superteams" since then had 0 impact on the popularity of the Knicks.

If the league would have been afraid of that, they could have just relocated the Clippers when they took the team away from Sterling. For example to Seattle, where Ballmer is living since his Microsoft days. Outside of Clippers fans pretty much nobody would have cared about that relocation, most neutral fans probably feel anyhow that a 2nd LA or NY team isn´t necessary and would prefer a team like the Sonics instead.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#62 » by Richard4444 » Today 5:07 am

RoyceDa59 wrote:Why on Earth did they choose Beal over Powell?


It made sense in last year's market.

LAC needed a PF. Ideally young. Collins had a great performance last season. 19/8/2 shooting 53/40/85. He was 27 years old. Utah wanted to sell him for almost nothing. It was a great opportunity. But to get a 26M player, LAC needed to give back a 20M player.

Powell had a career year last season: 22/3/2 shooting 48/42/80. But when he is 32 years old. It's very suspect. It could be an outlier season. LAC thought they could sell him high.

Beal was blamed for the Suns' failure. But he was averaging 17h /3/4 shooting 50/47/80. He is 32 years old too. Getting him for only 6M/y to replace Norman could have been a steal even if he was a downgrade on defense. LAC tried to buy him low.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#63 » by doogie_hauser » Today 5:13 am

I will be shocked if Ty Lue is still coaching the Clippers for much longer. He will be the scapegoat. Although an argument can be made they have gone a bit stale under him and need a change
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#64 » by WiggOuts » Today 5:24 am

If they actually get punished for cheating (highly unlikely) they could be absolutely screwed for the foreseeable future. They already don't have picks to play with, if they lose what little they have mixed with an old ass roster fading out they'll be a bottom feeder for a long time

But we all know Balmer is going to buy his way out of this one. Hes probably already figured out a way to get around this type of thing in the future
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#65 » by ROballer » Today 5:33 am

They're taking their sweet ass time with Kawhi because the West is a joke at the bottom and they know it.
Plus, they don't have their pick. They can't blow it up.

It's easy as **** to make the play in this year.

You got New Orleans, Sacramento, Utah, Dallas and the Grizzlies(latter two far more likely to blow it up since they have their picks).

That 5 teams. Then you got the Suns and their cupcake schedule, they don't have the talent to keep it up and they will fall flat on their ass at some point when they play real teams.

That's 6 easily passable teams already and play in territory.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#66 » by dballislife » Today 5:42 am

okc doesnt need more help you pathetic losers

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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#67 » by Zeno » Today 5:43 am

Has a team ever hosted the all-star game and not had a single participant at any event all weekend? No all-star, no rookie, dunk contestant, three point shooter. Maybe Chris Paul gets to try to game the skills challenge again?
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Post#68 » by UcanUwill » Today 8:07 am

CodeBreaker wrote:Change their coach first. They have a good roster with depth. Ty Lue just doesn't know what he's doing


WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#69 » by xinxin » Today 8:19 am

they are 1-9 in the last 10 games..


yikes.
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Post#70 » by Homer38 » Today 8:23 am

Kawhi deserve all the blame for the Paul George-SGA trade....
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#71 » by DLoMor » Today 8:25 am

UcanUwill wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:Change their coach first. They have a good roster with depth. Ty Lue just doesn't know what he's doing


WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.


Is there any proof that Ty Lue is a good coach other than LeBron carrying him for a ring? He’s not even trying this year.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#72 » by UcanUwill » Today 8:36 am

DLoMor wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:Change their coach first. They have a good roster with depth. Ty Lue just doesn't know what he's doing


WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.


Is there any proof that Ty Lue is a good coach other than LeBron carrying him for a ring? He’s not even trying this year.


Yes, do you have proof he isnt, how much do you know about coaching really? His in game adjustments are some of the fastest in a league compared to other coaches, his defensive system are lengthy and sophisticated and a lot of NBA coaching is about EGO management and he is one of the best in a league at that. His main criticism was lack of development of young players, but seeing he coached contenders, it wasn't a huge deal. The fact that he now inserts two way guys and random young guys into rotation is a sign that his main dogs have failed him bigtime. He is trying plenty, as a desperate coach, he tied running through Zoo entirely, he benched old farts, the material he has failed him.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#73 » by monopoman » Today 9:46 am

I could see a rebuild in a season or two, but unless they are getting back good assets for their best players it's not worth it.

Moving into a rebuild when you have not a single 1st round pick of your own for the next few years is ridiculous. It's even worse than that because even the years where you have a pick swap it's with OKC which means they are giving you the worst 1st round pick, and you give them a top 5-6 pick.

In 2027 or 2028 you can talk about blowing this team up, until then barring some ridiculous offer for your best players you play as good as you can, and maybe make a move to build on this team.
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Post#74 » by maverick_41 » Today 10:15 am

xinxin wrote:they are 1-9 in the last 10 games..


yikes.

And the only win was against the Mavs. So it doesn't count ))
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#75 » by CodeBreaker » Today 10:17 am

UcanUwill wrote:
DLoMor wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.


Is there any proof that Ty Lue is a good coach other than LeBron carrying him for a ring? He’s not even trying this year.


Yes, do you have proof he isnt, how much do you know about coaching really? His in game adjustments are some of the fastest in a league compared to other coaches, his defensive system are lengthy and sophisticated and a lot of NBA coaching is about EGO management and he is one of the best in a league at that. His main criticism was lack of development of young players, but seeing he coached contenders, it wasn't a huge deal. The fact that he now inserts two way guys and random young guys into rotation is a sign that his main dogs have failed him bigtime. He is trying plenty, as a desperate coach, he tied running through Zoo entirely, he benched old farts, the material he has failed him.

Sounds like Ty Lue's burner account
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Post#76 » by CodeBreaker » Today 10:18 am

UcanUwill wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:Change their coach first. They have a good roster with depth. Ty Lue just doesn't know what he's doing


WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.

Zubac is their 3rd best player. Kawhi and Harden are still All-NBA caliber players
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#77 » by UcanUwill » Today 11:06 am

CodeBreaker wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
CodeBreaker wrote:Change their coach first. They have a good roster with depth. Ty Lue just doesn't know what he's doing


WTF are you talking about. A roster where Zubac is best player is a good roster, they are freaking cooked, I think it was funny when Blake Griffin was on TV like - you know what guys, I would be 5th. oldest player on this team...
Ty Lue is one of the best coaches in a league, its not his fault every player of his gets outrunned by every other NBA player. Most of this roster should enjoy retirement already, what are they even doing here.

Zubac is their 3rd best player. Kawhi and Harden are still All-NBA caliber players


Kawhi is a part time player, he barely even plays, how come anyone even count him anymore, and its really a toss up between Zubac and Harden. And if 36 year old Harden your best player, yeah, thats very not good.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#78 » by LarsV8 » Today 11:28 am

Damn, Kawhi really did a number on this team.
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Re: So...When Will Clippers Blow It Up? 

Post#79 » by dballislife » Today 1:41 pm

how do they even blow it up lol when do they even start owning their draft picks?
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Post#80 » by Anticon » Today 1:48 pm

monopoman wrote:I could see a rebuild in a season or two, but unless they are getting back good assets for their best players it's not worth it.

Moving into a rebuild when you have not a single 1st round pick of your own for the next few years is ridiculous. It's even worse than that because even the years where you have a pick swap it's with OKC which means they are giving you the worst 1st round pick, and you give them a top 5-6 pick.

In 2027 or 2028 you can talk about blowing this team up, until then barring some ridiculous offer for your best players you play as good as you can, and maybe make a move to build on this team.


Man, I had thought the picks swaps ended this draft...Presti deserves a Nobel Prize for getting Shai plus those picks...

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