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Post#1861 » by frankenwolf » Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:17 pm

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Post#1862 » by minimus » Tue Nov 18, 2025 2:36 pm

Does Brandon Williams from DAL technically belong to this thread?
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Post#1863 » by KGdaBom » Tue Nov 18, 2025 4:43 pm


Thanks for the link. What qualifies as assault these days could be nothing more than a little shouting.
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Post#1864 » by frankenwolf » Tue Nov 18, 2025 9:37 pm

KGdaBom wrote:

Thanks for the link. What qualifies as assault these days could be nothing more than a little shouting.


Probably had a few words for the 18 year old and possibly some shoving. Who knows for sure, though?
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Post#1865 » by minimus » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:39 am

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It looks like Tyus gets scapegoated.
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Post#1866 » by shrink » Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:49 am

There’s a thread about Tyus on the General Board

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2482486

Tyus in all 14 games for the Magic:

1.4ppg, 25.7 FG%, 10.5 3P%, 1.4 apg, 12.7 mpg.

And we all know that Tyus is a terrible defender as well.
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Post#1867 » by minimus » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:22 pm

shrink wrote:There’s a thread about Tyus on the General Board

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2482486

Tyus in all 14 games for the Magic:

1.4ppg, 25.7 FG%, 10.5 3P%, 1.4 apg, 12.7 mpg.

And we all know that Tyus is a terrible defender as well.


So sad to hear. I also wonder if another offensive scheme (read more pick-n-roll) might be more suitable for him. Saying this it is clear that MIN with offense built around ISOs, drive-n-kick and rim pressure is not a good fit for him.
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Post#1868 » by shrink » Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:24 pm

I understand why Rosas was unwilling to pay him, but I was sad to see him go. Good to see though how he carried the Grizz when Ja inevitably missed time.

If he got bought out, I’d love to add him, and see if coming home would help him find his game again.
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Post#1869 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:16 pm

shrink wrote:I understand why Rosas was unwilling to pay him, but I was sad to see him go. Good to see though how he carried the Grizz when Ja inevitably missed time.

If he got bought out, I’d love to add him, and see if coming home would help him find his game again.


That would be the only way I'd have interest in him.

7M is insane.
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Re: Updates on former Wolves 

Post#1871 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Nov 21, 2025 12:23 am

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D’Angelo Russell has reportedly rubbed several franchises the wrong way with his approach in practice and lackadaisical effort on defense...

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Post#1872 » by frankenwolf » Fri Nov 21, 2025 1:41 pm

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Post#1873 » by Domejandro » Yesterday 4:28 pm

He wouldn’t fully solve the Point Guard problem, but it is pretty painful watching Nickeil Alexander-Walker thrive in Atlanta while making less than Mike Conley + Rob Dillingham.

I think the team would be in a much better position if he isn’t let go. I think some HUGE mistakes were made this off-season, and he is a substantial component of that.
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Post#1874 » by shrink » Yesterday 7:26 pm

Domejandro wrote:I think the team would be in a much better position if he isn’t let go. I think some HUGE mistakes were made this off-season, and he is a substantial component of that.

I love me some NAW - his personality on and off the court really appealed to me. I agree if he’s on the team, we’re better.

But I’m not sure how we could have kept him, if we wanted to stay under the second apron. Julius and Naz were paid fairly at the time (though Randle’s deal is great now), and we had no bigs ready behind them. At guard, we had Donte ready to start, and he hadn’t reclaimed the trade value we invested in him with a slow start last year. Mike had that promise to not be traded. We paid a lot to add Dillingham, and promising Clark and TJ Shannon needed guard minutes as well.

I regretted losing NAW, but I think Connelly’s hands were pretty much tied. I wish he would have been able to find some vet min third string center and PG (other than Bones), but there was no obvious way to add a rotation player. We couldn’t afford to lose our bigs, and a guard, even one as valuable as NAW, was the most likely position we could cover with internal development.
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Post#1875 » by Note30 » Yesterday 7:50 pm

Domejandro wrote:He wouldn’t fully solve the Point Guard problem, but it is pretty painful watching Nickeil Alexander-Walker thrive in Atlanta while making less than Mike Conley + Rob Dillingham.

I think the team would be in a much better position if he isn’t let go. I think some HUGE mistakes were made this off-season, and he is a substantial component of that.


Just this off-season?
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Re: Updates on former Wolves 

Post#1876 » by Domejandro » Yesterday 10:42 pm

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Domejandro wrote:I think the team would be in a much better position if he isn’t let go. I think some HUGE mistakes were made this off-season, and he is a substantial component of that.

I love me some NAW - his personality on and off the court really appealed to me. I agree if he’s on the team, we’re better.

But I’m not sure how we could have kept him, if we wanted to stay under the second apron. Julius and Naz were paid fairly at the time (though Randle’s deal is great now), and we had no bigs ready behind them. At guard, we had Donte ready to start, and he hadn’t reclaimed the trade value we invested in him with a slow start last year. Mike had that promise to not be traded. We paid a lot to add Dillingham, and promising Clark and TJ Shannon needed guard minutes as well.

I regretted losing NAW, but I think Connelly’s hands were pretty much tied. I wish he would have been able to find some vet min theirs string center and PG (other than Bones), but there was no obvious way to add a rotation player. We couldn’t afford to lose our bigs, and a guard, even one as valuable as NAW, was the most likely position we could cover with internal development.

I foundationally disagree with the principle that a year and a half after his extension, Mike Conley should be fully untradeable, even if that means losing seconds to send him to a cap-space having team that would waive him so he could go wherever. He is a professional making above market-rate, I think that he would ultimately understand; it is terrible negotiating to make a multi-year no-trade agreement with a near-forty year old, bench-quality player. I also really dislike the idea of doubling down on mistakes (like the Rob Dillingham pick) because of over-leveraging assets.

The truth is that Minnesota effectively developed a starting-caliber, two-way player (who is low usage!) and let him walk because of brutal Second-Apron considerations. That said, it particularly stings that he is making less than the team’s currently tragic Point-Guard rotation and is making $6-10 million less annually than the recent resigned Naz Reid.

Nickeil-Alexander Walker / Donte DiVincenzo/ Bones Hyland
Anthony Edwards / Jaylen Clark
Jaden McDaniels / Terrence Shannon Jr.
Julius Randle / Naz Reid / Joe Ingles
Rudy Gobert / Joan Beringer

Plenty of minutes for Jaylen Clark and Terrence Shannon Jr.

Being honest, that minor adjustment is the difference between being a championship contender and a middling Playoff squad. Losing arguably the best screen-navigator in the NBA who consistently shot over 38% behind-the-arc on decent volume is devastating. I think people don’t appreciate how brutal the gap is between NAW and others who are now eating the minutes he left behind, Minnesota is getting killed when Conley and Dillingham touch the floor.

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