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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#921 » by HornetJail » Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:12 pm

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fatlever wrote:Well mitch was a terrorist... so by default any other GM on the planet would have been better.

Jpete... jury is still out. But so far, feels like best gm we've had since Bernie.... at very least. Although, not hard to be better than mitch, Cho and Higgins.

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Jeff might've cooked with this most recent draft, but so far he's below Cho and above Mitch and Higgins for me. Cho's downfall was that he married himself to Steve Clifford.
I'm willing to concede Cho for now. Fair enough.
I do appreciate what he was trying to do with his four Cs approach. And I do love the fact that he generally went after Super High character guys. It led to a very likable team and 2 playoff births. He was decent at finding some small mid-season trades that worked out really well. And I'm not sure that it was his fault that he rushed the rebuild by signing jefferson. And really hard to fault him on two of his big draft busts... the holy s*** he just missed on so many lottery picks. And I'm not sure that it was his say so in completely ignoring the second round pics all the years that he did. S******* the bed and that Frank Kaminsky draft by turning down the Boston offer though is pretty inexcusable especially when we saw the rationale behind why they turned it down. It's just really hard to say during that era how much of that was coming from Jordan and his inner circle

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We are basically arguing over whether you'd rather die by getting shot, stabbed, or poisoned :lol:

Any organization that actually gave a **** about winning would've canned any of these losers 3 years into their tenures (and realistically never hired them in the first place)
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#922 » by Braggins » Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:26 pm

The Mitch vs Cho debate is kind of weird. If you compare their best teams the best Mitch teams seem better on paper than the Cho teams and if you compare their specific player transactions Cho seems worse to me, but at the same time the bar was a lot higher during Mitch's tenure and Cho actually had two teams make the playoffs, whereas nothing Mitch did ever actually amounted to anything.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#923 » by fatlever » Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:45 pm

Braggins wrote:The Mitch vs Cho debate is kind of weird. If you compare their best teams the best Mitch teams seem better on paper than the Cho teams and if you compare their specific player transactions Cho seems worse to me, but at the same time the bar was a lot higher during Mitch's tenure and Cho actually had two teams make the playoffs, whereas nothing Mitch did ever actually amounted to anything.


nonsense :-?
2016 hornets would crush any of the mitch teams in a series
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#924 » by Braggins » Fri Nov 21, 2025 8:55 pm

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Braggins wrote:The Mitch vs Cho debate is kind of weird. If you compare their best teams the best Mitch teams seem better on paper than the Cho teams and if you compare their specific player transactions Cho seems worse to me, but at the same time the bar was a lot higher during Mitch's tenure and Cho actually had two teams make the playoffs, whereas nothing Mitch did ever actually amounted to anything.


nonsense :-?
2016 hornets would crush any of the mitch teams in a series

I think the 2022 Hornets had more talent and a better coaching staff. They only won 43 games though compared to the 48 wins of the 2016 Hornets. I don't think the 2016 team would win 48 games if you transported them to 2021/2022 season.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#925 » by SWedd523 » Fri Nov 21, 2025 9:26 pm

Braggins wrote:The Mitch vs Cho debate is kind of weird. If you compare their best teams the best Mitch teams seem better on paper than the Cho teams and if you compare their specific player transactions Cho seems worse to me, but at the same time the bar was a lot higher during Mitch's tenure and Cho actually had two teams make the playoffs, whereas nothing Mitch did ever actually amounted to anything.

I don't think it's fair to compare the two because I think MJ meddled way more into the Cho affairs than the Mitch ones, especially towards the end
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#926 » by MPM » Sat Nov 22, 2025 8:54 pm

Sad to hear about the passing of Rodney Rogers. Always a fan.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#927 » by Diop » Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:36 am

fatlever wrote:Kalk
Clingan
Edey

Pick one for next 4 years.

I'm probably taking kalk

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I’m still taking Edey, he has the work ethic to fit the team culture and the athleticism to not make him a big stiff at his size. Good free throw shooter too
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#928 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:40 pm

Just looked at tankathon and if the season ended today the Thunder would have both the 8th and 9th pick in the draft (with the potential to move up obviously)

That’s absolutely incredible.
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Post#929 » by HornetJail » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:22 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Just looked at tankathon and if the season ended today the Thunder would have both the 8th and 9th pick in the draft (with the potential to move up obviously)

That’s absolutely incredible.

Utah will tank their asses off to avoid giving up that draft pick, but I also expect the 76ers pick they have to be late lotto anyway, so OKC's going to have two decent picks regardless.

This is going to be a thing the next couple years. OKC winning like 65 games on their own every year, but other teams are tanking for them. They have up to 4 1sts this year (realistically 3), 3 1sts next year (one is protected and becomes 2nds if SAS misses the playoffs)
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#930 » by UNCNYC » Yesterday 1:08 am

Kobe Sanders - someone to keep an eye out for. I have always been intruiged by his 6'8 PG size

UPDATED `10-22-2025



These are who I want with our picks in order



THEM - Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen

UNCNYC - Arthur Agee, William Gates
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#931 » by Diop » Yesterday 4:18 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Just looked at tankathon and if the season ended today the Thunder would have both the 8th and 9th pick in the draft (with the potential to move up obviously)

That’s absolutely incredible.

New Orleans need a win now trade desperately, Miles stats look good on paper :lol:
I'd do injured Dejounte Murray for Miles. if we can scramble something else out of him all the better. one of Bey or Matkovic to play some minutes at Pf.

Murray is expensive but a better passer than Mann, Sexton who we can sell off for nothing.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#932 » by JMAC3 » Yesterday 4:54 am

Nurkic 92nd % Defensive EPM thus far for Utah
Mark Williams 90th % Defensive EPM thus far for Suns.
Nick Richards 5th% Defensive EPM for the Suns.

Kalkbrenner 60th % Defensive EPM thus far for Charlotte
Mason Plumlee 43rd % Defensive EPM thus far for Charlotte
Moussa Diabate 5th % Defensive EPM thus far for Charlotte

Add them to the list along with PJ who left Charlotte and immediately improved defensively.

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