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Post#561 » by Jojothewhale » Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:41 pm

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Jojothewhale wrote:The simplest explanation is a grand conspiracy either involving 32 owners and the league office or the office itself going rogue? Yep, we've got takes today.

If the league is fixing things, they should probably send the refs out to eliminate the Thunder early every year so they get a bigger tv deal. Oklahoma City is a tiny market. And reverse time to send Wemby to Chicago or Houston.

You raise the top end by inflating lakers selling price.
You make every team attractive by showing even a small market team can win the league.
You then move to expand the nba draft to 3 rounds and roster limit to 15 full and 5 two way contract.

Just need to find multiple Presti for the plan to work.


Of course. And every year you hire Kubrick to film a lookalike lottery in case it goes poorly.

While we're here, that last point is the complete opposite of what the league would want. They want to pay out less contracts, not more.
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Post#562 » by Devilanche » Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:48 pm

Jojothewhale wrote:
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Jojothewhale wrote:The simplest explanation is a grand conspiracy either involving 32 owners and the league office or the office itself going rogue? Yep, we've got takes today.

If the league is fixing things, they should probably send the refs out to eliminate the Thunder early every year so they get a bigger tv deal. Oklahoma City is a tiny market. And reverse time to send Wemby to Chicago or Houston.

You raise the top end by inflating lakers selling price.
You make every team attractive by showing even a small market team can win the league.
You then move to expand the nba draft to 3 rounds and roster limit to 15 full and 5 two way contract.

Just need to find multiple Presti for the plan to work.


Of course. And every year you hire Kubrick to film a lookalike lottery in case it goes poorly.

While we're here, that last point is the complete opposite of what the league would want. They want to pay out less contracts, not more.

Add 2 more contracts that cheap cause of all the injuries that the league is having.
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Post#563 » by SkyHook » Yesterday 12:05 am

I think that the reason why the conspiracy theories continue to have legs is because of Stern. My guess would be that a majority of people who have followed the league for decades are persuaded that the first lottery in '85 was rigged (frozen card, bent corner, etc), so in the eyes of many the willingness of the league to manipulate the system has been established. Has the league put its thumb on the scale in other ways as well? The current lottery is far harder to rig by multiple orders of magnitude — and I have no theories as to how it might be done — but I'm sure that there are lots of smart people out there who have given it some thought should the powers that be become sufficiently motivated.
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Post#564 » by zimpy27 » Yesterday 12:10 am

Jojothewhale wrote:The simplest explanation is a grand conspiracy either involving 32 owners and the league office or the office itself going rogue? Yep, we've got takes today.

If the league is fixing things, they should probably send the refs out to eliminate the Thunder early every year so they get a bigger tv deal. Oklahoma City is a tiny market. And reverse time to send Wemby to Chicago or Houston.


I'm just saying that is the simplest explanation if it is a conspiracy. The owners all financially benefited from the Luka trade. It's an unusual situation that happened.

Still, I think the explanation is that Nico messed up. Was too focused on a quiet transaction than getting best value.
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Post#565 » by enzino » Yesterday 7:37 pm

EDITED

to BOS: LaMelo Ball, Saric
to CHA: Monk, A. Simons, PICK(s)
to SAC: D.WHITE
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Post#566 » by daoneandonly » Yesterday 7:42 pm

In the shocking news of the day, amny of the Mavericks players are growing tired of D'Angelo Russel's attitude and lack of effort on D.

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Post#567 » by jbk1234 » Yesterday 8:18 pm

enzino wrote:to BOS: LaMelo Ball, Saric
to CHA: Monk, A. Simons, PICK(s)
to SAC: D.West



D. White?
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Post#568 » by enzino » Yesterday 8:37 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
enzino wrote:to BOS: LaMelo Ball, Saric
to CHA: Monk, A. Simons, PICK(s)
to SAC: D.West



D. White?

YEAH, CORRECT!
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Post#569 » by SlimShady83 » Yesterday 9:08 pm

Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?
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Post#570 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 9:14 pm

enzino wrote:EDITED

to BOS: LaMelo Ball, Saric
to CHA: Monk, A. Simons, PICK(s)
to SAC: D.WHITE

Gross for Boston.
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Post#571 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 9:17 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?

Need to include a pick or player I think and follow CBA trade rules. The pick can be a top 55 protected 2nd .
The receiving team (the player) would need a trade exception or be under the cap the amount the players cap hit.
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Post#572 » by SlimShady83 » Yesterday 9:18 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?

Need to include a pick or player I think and follow CBA trade rules. The pick can be a top 55 protected 2nd .
The receiving team (the player) would need a trade exception or be under the cap the amount the players cap hit.


Thought so, good to think about it though.
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Post#573 » by jbk1234 » Yesterday 9:34 pm

enzino wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
enzino wrote:to BOS: LaMelo Ball, Saric
to CHA: Monk, A. Simons, PICK(s)
to SAC: D.West



D. White?

YEAH, CORRECT!


I'm wondering if the Hornets would just take him, Simons, and a pick.
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Post#574 » by giberish » Yesterday 9:35 pm

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brackdan70 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?

Need to include a pick or player I think and follow CBA trade rules. The pick can be a top 55 protected 2nd .
The receiving team (the player) would need a trade exception or be under the cap the amount the players cap hit.


Thought so, good to think about it though.


There's generally a min salary exception where teams can take on players on minimum salary contracts (either signing or by trade) without cap space or any other exception (as long as it doesn't go over any hard cap that the team is operating under for the season). Not all cheap contracts qualify for this in trades though (not sure on the details).

The receiving team does have to send something back - the proverbial top-55 protected 2nd is possible, as are the rights to some Euro taken in the 2nd round a decade ago that's never coming over.
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Post#575 » by brackdan70 » Yesterday 10:08 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
enzino wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:

D. White?

YEAH, CORRECT!


I'm wondering if the Hornets would just take him, Simons, and a pick.

I really can’t see why the Celtics would touch Ball, especially at the cost of White.
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Post#576 » by SkyHook » Yesterday 11:13 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?

Need to include a pick or player I think and follow CBA trade rules. The pick can be a top 55 protected 2nd .
The receiving team (the player) would need a trade exception or be under the cap the amount the players cap hit.

Cash alone constitutes a touch. Case in point: the Sixers received cash considerations only when they dealt KJ Martin + 2 SRPs to the Pistons at the last deadline. https://www.nba.com/news/2024-25-nba-trade-tracker

Any team which can sign a player using the minimum exception can also take a minimum player in trade without sending anything but cash.
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Post#577 » by brackdan70 » Today 12:03 am

SkyHook wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
SlimShady83 wrote:Can you trade small contract players that earning like $1m just for cash or do you have to include a player in the deal also?

Need to include a pick or player I think and follow CBA trade rules. The pick can be a top 55 protected 2nd .
The receiving team (the player) would need a trade exception or be under the cap the amount the players cap hit.

Cash alone constitutes a touch. Case in point: the Sixers received cash considerations only when they dealt KJ Martin + 2 SRPs to the Pistons at the last deadline. https://www.nba.com/news/2024-25-nba-trade-tracker

Any team which can sign a player using the minimum exception can also take a minimum player in trade without sending anything but cash.

Sweet. Thanks for clarifying!
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Post#578 » by NYG » 21 minutes ago

Who are some players with bad contracts on teams motivated to use picks to move off of them?

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