PG - Knicks fooled easily by Magic

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I’m about to start watching raptors games I’m ready to embrace RJ again

jesus

[spree8]

We aren’t even in December and the team quit on the coach and we want to make roster changes now when it was said the roster was fine it was just the coach who was holding them back

Life comes at you fast

The team hasn’t quit on the coach, that’s ridiculous.

The roster was fine last year when we were almost 100% healthy like the whole season… problem was the coach was playing 6-7 man rotations in November.

Tonight we didn’t have OG, Deuce, Shamet… and the dude Leon gifted the full tax MLE to is a no show every night, so we went back to playing 6-7 guys worth a damn tonight.

[god shammgod]

kat quit on him before the season even started. announced publicly he didn't know his role. josh hart has talked about his role too and his minutes. guys don't seem happy.

[JBreezeNY]

We aren’t even in December and the team quit on the coach and we want to make roster changes now when it was said the roster was fine it was just the coach who was holding them back

Life comes at you fast

The team hasn’t quit on the coach, that’s ridiculous.

The roster was fine last year when we were almost 100% healthy like the whole season… problem was the coach was playing 6-7 man rotations in November.

Tonight we didn’t have OG, Deuce, Shamet… and the dude Leon gifted the full tax MLE to is a no show every night, so we went back to playing 6-7 guys worth a damn tonight.

Also the magic is a decent team. We as fans have this nasty tendency to scoff off everyone we play against and feel every time we lose it’s because of our play and the refs.

The magic have damn good defense, a good coach and got better on offense.

The east is pretty rounded this year, other teams have improved, Folks gotta relax.

[spree8]

kat quit on him before the season even started. announced publicly he didn't know his role. josh hart has talked about his role too and his minutes. guys don't seem happy.

How is that KAT quitting? Josh has talked about his role and minutes with Thibs too. I think you guys might be reading too much into things…

[JayTWill]

the effort level aint the same. guys look semi checked out at times. i've seen this movie before. they don't like the coach.

I could have sworn we were having the same exact conversations last year

it did get worse last year with the personnel changes. but mitch came back before the playoffs and it changed then. but they've seemed to regress even further in the regular season now. can they turn it on again when the playoffs come ? who knows. i don't think i trust mike brown to have the team prepared well on defense then.

I don't know. They looked like a team that was competing harder in the playoffs but they were still a team with many issues. They were very lucky to get out of the 1st round last year against the Pistons. Now younger teams like the Pistons and Magic have another year of experience heading toward their peaks while this Knicks core may have already peaked.

These guys aren't going to magically get better defensively past their athletic primes. They are just going to get slower and more broken down at this point no matter who the coach is. Someone like Hart has been declining defensively for a few years now. A younger version of Mitch may have had a better chance of guarding Wagner. Mitch is still strong as hell but doesn't move quite as well anymore.

[god shammgod]

kat quit on him before the season even started. announced publicly he didn't know his role. josh hart has talked about his role too and his minutes. guys don't seem happy.

How is that KAT quitting? Josh has talked about his role and minutes with Thibs too. I think you guys might be reading too much into things…

does kat look like the same player from last year ? he's shooting the worst percentages of his entire career by far. worse than his rookie year. 42 percent and 31 from 3. those are cam reddish ass percentages.

[RHODEY]

I could have sworn we were having the same exact conversations last year

it did get worse last year with the personnel changes. but mitch came back before the playoffs and it changed then. but they've seemed to regress even further in the regular season now. can they turn it on again when the playoffs come ? who knows. i don't think i trust mike brown to have the team prepared well on defense then.

I don't know. They looked like a team that was competing harder in the playoffs but they were still a team with many issues. They were very lucky to get out of the 1st round last year against the Pistons. Now younger teams like the Pistons and Magic have another year of experience heading toward their peaks while this Knicks core may have already peaked.

These guys aren't going to magically get better defensively past their athletic primes. They are just going to get slower and more broken down at this point no matter who the coach is. Someone like Hart has been declining defensively for a few years now. A younger version of Mitch may have had a better chance of guarding Wagner. Mitch is still strong as hell but doesn't move quite as well anymore.

Mitch is 27 years old. But tonight he looked 37.

[HEZI]

We aren’t even in December and the team quit on the coach and we want to make roster changes now when it was said the roster was fine it was just the coach who was holding them back

Life comes at you fast

The team hasn’t quit on the coach, that’s ridiculous.

The roster was fine last year when we were almost 100% healthy like the whole season… problem was the coach was playing 6-7 man rotations in November.

Tonight we didn’t have OG, Deuce, Shamet… and the dude Leon gifted the full tax MLE to is a no show every night, so we went back to playing 6-7 guys worth a damn tonight.

Only thing ridiculous is your takes about this awful coach. He’s terrible. Our All NBA Bigman quit on him before the season even started and is now having the worst season of his career. You can see the other players quitting in this game which was embarrassing to see. We can’t play any defense. Look like a mediocre team despite the conference getting weaker we somehow got worse. Your coach did that

And the injury excuse doesn’t fly we have played teams game in game out who have been missing their key players. Orlando tonight was without Banchero and Mo Wagner. Cry me a river

And the irony that the coach who kept a short rotation did a better job keeping guys healthy than this guy

[spree8]

kat quit on him before the season even started. announced publicly he didn't know his role. josh hart has talked about his role too and his minutes. guys don't seem happy.

How is that KAT quitting? Josh has talked about his role and minutes with Thibs too. I think you guys might be reading too much into things…

does kat look like the same player from last year ? he's shooting the worst percentages of his entire career by far. worse than his rookie year.

He looks exactly the same to me with the exception of his shooting %… but that doesn’t equate to quitting? He’s gotten off to a bad start with the 3ball… it happens to the best of players.. I’m sure he’ll turn it around soon.

You know as of right now KAT is 28 of 88 from 3… he hits 5 more of those 3’s and he’s shooting 38% instead of 32%… it’s way too early to be panicking about this.

[8516knicks]

the effort level aint the same. guys look semi checked out at times. i've seen this movie before. they don't like the coach.

I could have sworn we were having the same exact conversations last year

it did get worse last year with the personnel changes. but mitch came back before the playoffs and it changed then. but they've seemed to regress even further in the regular season now. can they turn it on again when the playoffs come ? who knows. i don't think i trust mike brown to have the team prepared well on defense then.

We have traveled the world from KATMAN NO DO to KATMAN DOO DOO.

[jvsimonetti0514]

Last years team had a bunch of issues but I really can’t remember them quitting in a game and they’ve done it twice against the Magic this year. At least the first game against the Magic you could say it was a second night of a back to back but once the lead hit 10 in the 4th tonight they stopped trying. That just hasn’t been the team for the past 5 years. The sky shouldn’t falling after 15 games but that’s a little alarming.

[The KnicksFix]

I low key think the Knicks might go back and get Thibs halfway thru the season

I have this eerie feeling

they won't do that. and he definitely won't. why would you come back and take a job that you're already getting paid for not to show up to ?

Lemme introduce you to Steve Clifford

[spree8]

We aren’t even in December and the team quit on the coach and we want to make roster changes now when it was said the roster was fine it was just the coach who was holding them back

Life comes at you fast

The team hasn’t quit on the coach, that’s ridiculous.

The roster was fine last year when we were almost 100% healthy like the whole season… problem was the coach was playing 6-7 man rotations in November.

Tonight we didn’t have OG, Deuce, Shamet… and the dude Leon gifted the full tax MLE to is a no show every night, so we went back to playing 6-7 guys worth a damn tonight.

Only thing ridiculous is your takes about this awful coach. He’s terrible. Our All NBA Bigman quit on him before the season even started and is now having the worst season of his career. You can see the other players quitting in this game which was embarrassing to see. We can’t play any defense. Look like a mediocre team despite the conference getting weaker we somehow got worse. Your coach did that

And the injury excuse doesn’t fly we have played teams game in game out who have been missing their key players. Orlando tonight was without Banchero and Mo Wagner. Cry me a river

And the irony that the coach who kept a short rotation did a better job keeping guys healthy than this guy

None of this makes any sense lol. The medical staff keeps players healthy not the coach. And what are my “ridiculous” takes about this coach exactly? Please explain. And what evidence is there about the players quitting other than what you’re manufacturing in your mind to fit your agenda/bias?

[The KnicksFix]

I low key think the Knicks might go back and get Thibs halfway thru the season

I have this eerie feeling

Why would anybody go back to the team that fired them? Also is Brown really the issue? This roster is flawed, lacks redundancy, size, and ball handling.

The roster is better than last year
We needed a coaching change. However, they went and got the 8th choice

[Luv those Knicks]

The Knicks are like Superman.

Their magic resistance sucks.

[The KnicksFix]

I keep saying there’s one way to go about fixing the team without making any trades is either bring KAT or Brunson off the bench.

Something’s gotta give.

With that said the sky isn’t falling, there’s issues but you don’t have to blow up the team to correct them. I do wonder if a trade involving the lesser players can get us something to help with defense.

ORRRR we could just play pick and roll with Kat and Brunson , we never saw it

[Obi-One]

The KAT for AD trade idea may be our only viable Hail Mary to save this core. Brunson-KAT pairing will never work

[The KnicksFix]

The KAT for AD trade idea may be our only viable Hail Mary to save this core. Brunson-KAT pairing will never work

HELLL NO
KAT + anyone else Milwaukee wants for Giannis

[Gravy]

They struggle against teams over .500. We haven't even played the top teams in the league yet.