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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#21 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:52 am

Stratmaster wrote:The unfortunate reality is that without Vuc this team is probably fighting to stay out of the bottom 4 in the conference. I know he has had a couple of bad games and people love to hate him. But he and Giddey are the only reason the Bulls are staying afloat. Two guys a lot of people didn't want on the team.


Love J Giddey, future Bulls legend.

Vooch can see himself out when Zach Collins gets back.

I appreciate Nikola but we’ll be better off when he goes.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#22 » by Jeffster81 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:55 am

NecessaryEvil wrote:“It don’t matter if u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning” —- Dominic Toretto


Then why does this win feel like a loss?

Nobody is throwing the W away but damn it, this game should not have been close.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#23 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:59 am

This team plays such dog **** defense that it doesn't matter who they play. It'll always be a game. There's no heart or urgency.

Even with all the defensive shortcomings, it's another close game that we don't win without Vuc.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#24 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 am

Jeffster81 wrote:
NecessaryEvil wrote:“It don’t matter if u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning” —- Dominic Toretto


Then why does this win feel like a loss?

Nobody is throwing the W away but damn it, this game should not have been close.


I get it man

But we’re 9-7 after 16 games and injury shortcomings. I’ll take that as of now.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#25 » by Jcool0 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:07 am

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Jvaughn wrote:Wtf was that. Does Vuc hate Jalen Smith?

Yeah that was odd Vuc was serious lol

He was frustrated and embarrassed with the effort. I hope he gets through to the other players.


He should be embarrassed after ever game with his effort.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#26 » by Jcool0 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:08 am

Stratmaster wrote:The unfortunate reality is that without Vuc this team is probably fighting to stay out of the bottom 4 in the conference. I know he has had a couple of bad games and people love to hate him. But he and Giddey are the only reason the Bulls are staying afloat. Two guys a lot of people didn't want on the team.


Vuc has literally been the main factor in multiple blown big leads. He has been not keeping the Bulls afloat.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#27 » by Jay81 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:11 am

lol what are you guys doing. You should be tanking!
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#28 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:26 am

Jay81 wrote:lol what are you guys doing. You should be tanking!


We don’t tank, we play-in

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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#29 » by Senor Chang » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:28 am

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Stratmaster wrote:The unfortunate reality is that without Vuc this team is probably fighting to stay out of the bottom 4 in the conference. I know he has had a couple of bad games and people love to hate him. But he and Giddey are the only reason the Bulls are staying afloat. Two guys a lot of people didn't want on the team.


Vuc has literally been the main factor in multiple blown big leads. He has been not keeping the Bulls afloat.

He’s just doing what he’s always done. It’s up to the front office to surround him with bigs who complement his defensive weaknesses.


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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#30 » by kodo » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:29 am

It's mostly a negative thread, but props to Giddey who averaged in a b2b 18.5 ppg 11.5 rpg 10.0 apg, 50% 3P%, 8 FTA, only 2.5 TOV.
The guy has absolutely given 100% even when he had every excuse to just give up in the 40 point MIA blow out and in the 2nd game of a B2B against the Wizards.

Bulls are 9-5 when Giddey plays, which would be 5th in the EC.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#31 » by Jvaughn » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:33 am

Mk0 wrote:Vucevic visibly mad, not upset, not annoyed, but straight up mad, during the post game is the right response.

Matas and Stix trying to cheer and he just wasn't having it. He knows what a "bad" win is and was trying to make the point to KC.

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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#32 » by Chi town » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:34 am

The Explorer wrote:Donovan has been especially bad the last 3 games. I don't know if the Bulls are fatigued or what, but he is making some boneheaded decisions with the rotations, and he's failing to adjust. Spoelstra and now this Wizards coach thoroughly outcoached him.


I agree.

No adjustments yet.

He’s expecting the players to figure it out. It’s his style.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#33 » by Chi town » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:36 am

HomoSapien wrote:Good for Vuc. That’s solid veteran leadership and you can tell they will talk about it after the game.


Problem is he’s a huge part of the problem. No contesting. Kissed rebounds and rotations.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#34 » by Red Larrivee » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:44 am

kodo wrote:It's mostly a negative thread, but props to Giddey who averaged in a b2b 18.5 ppg 11.5 rpg 10.0 apg, 50% 3P%, 8 FTA, only 2.5 TOV.
The guy has absolutely given 100% even when he had every excuse to just give up in the 40 point MIA blow out and in the 2nd game of a B2B against the Wizards.

Bulls are 9-5 when Giddey plays, which would be 5th in the EC.


Also, don't really care what the stats say, but it's clear that his defensive effort is much improved even if the team is awful at it right now. He's even been getting on players for missing assignments. He's a needle mover for the team.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#35 » by Hangtime84 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:46 am

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If the Bulls do, you would be complaining to much to ever hear it.


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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#36 » by NZB2323 » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:49 am

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Jcool0 wrote:
Stratmaster wrote:The unfortunate reality is that without Vuc this team is probably fighting to stay out of the bottom 4 in the conference. I know he has had a couple of bad games and people love to hate him. But he and Giddey are the only reason the Bulls are staying afloat. Two guys a lot of people didn't want on the team.


Vuc has literally been the main factor in multiple blown big leads. He has been not keeping the Bulls afloat.

He’s just doing what he’s always done. It’s up to the front office to surround him with bigs who complement his defensive weaknesses.


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Or to trade him for a defensive center. Giddey is who we should be building around, and he’s not the best defender.

Vuc is a professional and I have nothing personal against him, but his on/off this year is -11.8 per 100 possessions. The Bulls do much better when he’s not in the game.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#37 » by madvillian » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:51 am

Not really much to say about this one. We need to find some sort of defensive shape no matter how effective the running offense is.
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#38 » by Lunartic » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:01 am

Once again the Bulls "average" coach is out coached. When do we play against a worse coach for once?
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#39 » by NecessaryEvil » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:02 am

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I just looked at the schedule. Derik Queen is about to buss Vooch’s *** on Monday lol
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Re: PG: Win ugly 

Post#40 » by Indomitable » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:03 am

Jay81 wrote:lol what are you guys doing. You should be tanking!

We will leave it to the experts
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