PG: Win ugly

[BigUps]

This team plays such dog **** defense that it doesn't matter who they play. It'll always be a game. There's no heart or urgency.

Even with all the defensive shortcomings, it's another close game that we don't win without Vuc.

You cant praise Vuc at the same time as ripping apart the defense. Vuc’s defense is a major reason we struggle as a team defensively. Hes terrible and the Wizards attacked him over and over and over again because he refuses to move his feet let alone actually jump in the air.

[Red Larrivee]

This team plays such dog **** defense that it doesn't matter who they play. It'll always be a game. There's no heart or urgency.

Even with all the defensive shortcomings, it's another close game that we don't win without Vuc.

You cat praise Vuc at the same time as ripping apart the defense. Vuc’s defense is a major reason we struggle as a team defensively. Hes terrible and the Wizards attacked him over and over and over again because he refuses to move his feet let alone actually jump in the air.

Sure I can. He's an awful defender, but he has had games where his offense has come through or he's hit big shots. Tonight he hit 3 big shots down the stretch that we absolutely needed.

[HomoSapien]

Good for Vuc. That’s solid veteran leadership and you can tell they will talk about it after the game.

Problem is he’s a huge part of the problem. No contesting. Kissed rebounds and rotations.

Sure, but there's still a lesson to be learned about not acting like giddy clowns for beating the worst team in the league by a point. Vuc was right to be frustrated by the effort, and I'm actually hopeful that that moment is a turning point in the season.

[HomoSapien]

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[Avery W]

Nuggets just lost as big favorites at home to the Kings with Demar as their leading rebounder.

No such thing as a free win in the NBA, sometimes you gotta take the ugly ones.

[GuardianEnzo]

Kudos to Vooch for calling it like it is. That's about as unsatisfying as it's possible for a win to be.

[Muzbar]

Bulls are back!!!!

Oof. That did NOT feel like a win. The Bulls could not hit the broad side of a barn tonight.

Giddey just seems to be the one constant on this team, he just keeps putting up numbers game after game.

Coby was pretty rough tonight, it's his 3rd game back so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Matas had some really nice blocks, like he REALLY got up for them.

Essengue sighting, albeit for just a minutes, but he finally got his first NBA minutes.

Vuc had the worst 28 & 12 game I've seen, but he came up big down the stretch. Also, kudos to him for not being happy about the win, he'll get in the young guys ears and explain why he wasn't having their shenanigans (even though it was just a bit of fun).

On to the next one.

[WindyCityBorn]

My conclusion of the Bulls: a team that depends offensively on one guy who is also the least dependable defensively to win.

Things going to get really ugly when Vuc is gone and Bulls don't have proper replacement.

I’m ready to pull the Bandaid and move Vuc so AK can see just how bad the roster is.

[WindyCityBorn]

“It don’t matter if u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning” —- Dominic Toretto

Then why does this win feel like a loss?

Nobody is throwing the W away but damn it, this game should not have been close.

I get it man

But we’re 9-7 after 16 games and injury shortcomings. I’ll take that as of now.

We’re 9-7 largely because of a guy that shouldn’t be here much longer.

[WesPeace]

Vucevic visibly mad, not upset, not annoyed, but straight up mad, during the post game is the right response.

Matas and Stix trying to cheer and he just wasn't having it. He knows what a "bad" win is and was trying to make the point to KC.

Respect to the vet

Respect Vooch

[Dominator83]

If we're not shooting for the stars with AD, would love to try and pry Ware from Miami. Spo doesn't seem to like playing him unless guys are out.

[Red8911]

Let’s not undervalue wins. Sure it wasn’t pretty but they found a way to finish,that’s all that matters. Obviously correct things that went wrong but for now you take the win and be happy.

After Mondays game they will finally get a lil break for 3 days so they can regroup and recharge.

On the Vuc/Jalen incident that was a bit harsh by Vuc. Jalen is a bit of a weirdo for doing that(he’s done it a few times during postgame interviews) but he was there to congratulate Vuc for the win no reason to be a dik about it on camera.

[greenwing]

This team plays such dog **** defense that it doesn't matter who they play. It'll always be a game. There's no heart or urgency.

Even with all the defensive shortcomings, it's another close game that we don't win without Vuc.

You cat praise Vuc at the same time as ripping apart the defense. Vuc’s defense is a major reason we struggle as a team defensively. Hes terrible and the Wizards attacked him over and over and over again because he refuses to move his feet let alone actually jump in the air.

Even if that is the case - and personally I think his defensive woes are way overblown - if you have a center who is not an effective rim protector you can always get help-side defense from the 4 position. Do we have a help-side 4? Only one on the roster in Julian Phillips and he’s in a limited reserve role. Buzelis can do it a bit, too. What we’re currently missing on defense is actually already on the roster. We just need Zach Collins to come back and we will be able to go big and play him at times with Vuc and Jalen when the matchups call for it. Vuc by no means is a net negative to the roster - especially given how valuable he’s been on offense. We just need a he right pieces in place. Given how he’s had a resurgence this season it should go to show that the fit with Zach and Demar for him was poor. He’s much better suited to the current guys on the roster.

[fleet]

“It don’t matter if u win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning” —- Dominic Toretto

"Sometimes when you win, you really lose, and sometimes when you lose, you really win...Winning or losing is all one organic mechanism, from which one extracts what one needs" —- Rosie Perez

[RSP83]

We're not going to get interior help via trade anytime soon and Vuc will probably finish his contract here so why not just throw Noa into the fire now. The sooner we develop him into the difference maker on defense we projected him to become.

It's weird to me that Billy was easy to give Pat entitlement minutes as a rookie yet hesitant to do the same for Noa. Rookie Pat was arguably more raw than Noa who has played professionally against grown man in Europe.

[coldfish]

Random observations:
- The team was -9 in Noa's 4 minutes where he did 0 0 0. For a team playing every game close, a guy like this really can lose it for you.
- Love Vuc's comments but the team was -1 when he was on the floor. He was the only negative starter. His defense IS a problem.

Oh well. Ugly win. Team is trending more and more towards a play in loss again.

[RSP83]

Random observations:
- The team was -9 in Noa's 4 minutes where he did 0 0 0. For a team playing every game close, a guy like this really can lose it for you.
- Love Vuc's comments but the team was -1 when he was on the floor. He was the only negative starter. His defense IS a problem.

Oh well. Ugly win. Team is trending more and more towards a play in loss again.

I'm slightly a bit more optimistic. IMO the regression to the means for this team will still be higher thant last year's means. And this time we really do have upside. Also considering that this is essentially Year 1 of the "Re-Tool" (it's only called that because Vuc is still in this roster).

That high-octane-10-players-in-double-figures Bulls is still in the cards this season.

[WesPeace]

If we're not shooting for the stars with AD, would love to try and pry Ware from Miami. Spo doesn't seem to like playing him unless guys are out.

He plays 24min on average, he is their future, he wouldnt be cheap!

[Ice Man]

I turned it off after the first quarter. Glad they won, but if the Bulls want my viewership they need to stop treating the 1st quarter like a scrimmage. Every single Bull, even the lowest paid ones, make five figures per game, and the better paid ones make six figures. For that money, they can do the work.

Ironic that Vuc was the player voicing my thoughts (and those of other fans) given how he was the Bull who as most singled out during the preseason as not caring and being there just to collect a paycheck. Collectively, we were very much wrong! He does care, bigtime.

[Ice Man]

It's weird to me that Billy was easy to give Pat entitlement minutes as a rookie yet hesitant to do the same for Noa. Rookie Pat was arguably more raw than Noa who has played professionally against grown man in Europe.

Pat was the only #4 on the roster except for Tyler Cook, who was out of the NBA after that season. Well OK, basketball reference lists James Jones Jr. and DDR as power forwards for that season, but come on.

Even Pat wasn't a true PF. AKME apparently sees no reason for that type of player. I sure do, though.