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Post#261 » by RHODEY » Yesterday 5:26 pm

The KnicksFix wrote:Go get Giannis man
I’ve seen enough from KAT
He is a negative on the defensive end. Get KAT off this team

Lets hope that the Bucks keep losing and KAT turns up to elevate his trade value.
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Post#262 » by The KnicksFix » Yesterday 5:26 pm

I’ve never seen a player use his booty to play offense and defense. Yabu does somehow
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Post#263 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:27 pm

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Not for nothing though,
Mikal is wayyy too small to guard franz

so he wasn't worth the superstar package if he can't guard any of the star wings. so much for wingstop :lol:


Mikal is our defensive weapon against 1’s, 2’s and 3’s, he’s not big enough to guard 4’s, that’s why OG gets the big bucks

which 1, 2 and 3 has he locked up this season
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Post#264 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:28 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
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Not for nothing though,
Mikal is wayyy too small to guard franz

so he wasn't worth the superstar package if he can't guard any of the star wings. so much for wingstop :lol:


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to be fair tatum was about to drop a 50 piece on both of them before he tore his achilles :lol:
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Post#265 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Yesterday 5:31 pm

Even if AD was at the peak of his powers, I don’t think that helps us with our problem of guarding big wings.
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Post#266 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:33 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Even if AD was at the peak of his powers, I don’t think that helps us with our problem of guarding big wings.

it doesnt but it also gets rid of kat which is our biggest problem rn
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Post#267 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:33 pm

sham i need you to cook up some kat trades again lol
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Post#268 » by The KnicksFix » Yesterday 5:37 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:so he wasn't worth the superstar package if he can't guard any of the star wings. so much for wingstop :lol:


Mikal is our defensive weapon against 1’s, 2’s and 3’s, he’s not big enough to guard 4’s, that’s why OG gets the big bucks

which 1, 2 and 3 has he locked up this season


Dood got 15 steals in 5 games and is the only defensive guard we got now that Shamet went down, with deuce second. But yes, please tell me more how Mikal is the problem defensively and not Hart who was the main guy defensively against Franz, and was at one point -22 and finished the game a game low -19. Tell me more bro.
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Post#269 » by ctorres » Yesterday 5:38 pm

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The KnicksFix wrote:Go get Giannis man
I’ve seen enough from KAT
He is a negative on the defensive end. Get KAT off this team

Lets hope that the Bucks keep losing and KAT turns up to elevate his trade value.


Bucks are only losing because Giannis is out

They are a good team built around him. They haven't figured out a way to win games while he is out.

I do think they should consider trading Kuzma for DeRozan. DeRozan while getting old would still give them a guy in the clutch to help the rest of their young guys, and not a terrible 2nd or 3rd option on a team with Giannis.
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Post#270 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:39 pm

The KnicksFix wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
Mikal is our defensive weapon against 1’s, 2’s and 3’s, he’s not big enough to guard 4’s, that’s why OG gets the big bucks

which 1, 2 and 3 has he locked up this season


Dood got 15 steals in 5 games and is the only defensive guard we got now that Shamet went down, with deuce second. But yes, please tell me more how Mikal is the problem defensively and not Hart who was the main guy defensively against Franz, and was at one point -22 and finished the game a game low -19. Tell me more bro.

you didn't answer the question. who has he locked up? we gave him a superstar package to do those things. not sure how you can even defend that trade. he's an good off ball defender but he gets cooked in his match ups.

and you do realize if we didnt give up all those picks for mikal, giannis would be a knick right now.
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Post#271 » by JayTWill » Yesterday 5:42 pm

HEZI wrote:The hypocrisy of asking for patience now after making the game threads toxic after every game in what happened to be our best season in decades


Speaking for myself only I have a little more patience at 5 weeks than I do at 5 years
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Post#272 » by The KnicksFix » Yesterday 5:44 pm

This team lost its defensive grit and integrity bit by bit.
Losing Ihart. Then Julius and divo. Thibs was the last sense of that grit.

The problem is, while it was great to root for a team with Ihart. Divo. Julius. And thibs. Because it resonated with the defensive grit of the 90s Knicks. Fun to root for but never materialized to see if they Could have won a chip. I personally don’t think they would have won with that team. Red pill blue pill situation.

With all that said. Go get giannis
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Post#273 » by ctorres » Yesterday 5:44 pm

Hey, can someone tell me how Kolek and Diawara looked

Also, I saw that Kolek and Brunson played minutes. I can't believe it actually happened!

Someone please give me some positives, any!
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Post#274 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:45 pm

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Post#275 » by Flaming Mo » Yesterday 5:45 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
spree8 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:so he wasn't worth the superstar package if he can't guard any of the star wings. so much for wingstop :lol:


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to be fair tatum was about to drop a 50 piece on both of them before he tore his achilles :lol:


Well, he better at some point after OG held him to 20/62 shooting in games 1-3... :wink:
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Post#276 » by The KnicksFix » Yesterday 5:47 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:which 1, 2 and 3 has he locked up this season


Dood got 15 steals in 5 games and is the only defensive guard we got now that Shamet went down, with deuce second. But yes, please tell me more how Mikal is the problem defensively and not Hart who was the main guy defensively against Franz, and was at one point -22 and finished the game a game low -19. Tell me more bro.

you didn't answer the question. who has he locked up? we gave him a superstar package to do those things. not sure how you can even defend that trade. he's an good off ball defender but he gets cooked in his match ups.

and you do realize if we didnt give up all those picks for mikal, giannis would be a knick right now.


Yes. I absolutely think he was worth the trade. What’s your vendetta against Mikal? Him and OG showed up against the Celtics. He earned every single one of those picks he was traded for in the first two rounds of the playoffs last year.

The problem here defensively isn’t him or OG. It’s KAT and hart. Both of which, the time’s up. And they deserve to get traded. Yet you still haven’t answered my question. Aren’t you watching Hart get cooked night in and night out nowadays?

Furthermore as soon as someone gets by Mikal, there are three net negative defenders in JB KAT and hart. There’s no one else on that floor to help him now That OG Shamet and deuce are out.
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Post#277 » by 3toheadmelo » Yesterday 5:47 pm

Flaming Mo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
spree8 wrote:
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to be fair tatum was about to drop a 50 piece on both of them before he tore his achilles :lol:


Well, he better at some point after OG held him to 20/62 shooting in games 1-3... :wink:

i love og i wouldnt ever slander him. more so talkin sht about mikal :D
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Post#278 » by spree8 » Yesterday 5:49 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:which 1, 2 and 3 has he locked up this season


Dood got 15 steals in 5 games and is the only defensive guard we got now that Shamet went down, with deuce second. But yes, please tell me more how Mikal is the problem defensively and not Hart who was the main guy defensively against Franz, and was at one point -22 and finished the game a game low -19. Tell me more bro.

you didn't answer the question. who has he locked up? we gave him a superstar package to do those things. not sure how you can even defend that trade. he's an good off ball defender but he gets cooked in his match ups.

and you do realize if we didnt give up all those picks for mikal, giannis would be a knick right now.



I know that’s the common assumption, but I don’t think we can definitively say that’s 100% true. Those picks are pretty meh and the Bucks are delusional enough to believe they have a chance to contend given the huge contract to Myles. They asked for Jalen in return this past summer, and that’s a helluva lot more value than those picks…
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Post#279 » by RHODEY » Yesterday 5:50 pm

ctorres wrote:
RHODEY wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:Go get Giannis man
I’ve seen enough from KAT
He is a negative on the defensive end. Get KAT off this team

Lets hope that the Bucks keep losing and KAT turns up to elevate his trade value.


Bucks are only losing because Giannis is out

They are a good team built around him. They haven't figured out a way to win games while he is out.

I do think they should consider trading Kuzma for DeRozan. DeRozan while getting old would still give them a guy in the clutch to help the rest of their young guys, and not a terrible 2nd or 3rd option on a team with Giannis.


Yes him being out hurt but they started dropping games even with him playing. I think he's knows they are "good" with him but isnt sure if they can ever be "great" with him. Time will tell.
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Post#280 » by The KnicksFix » Yesterday 5:51 pm

spree8 wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
Dood got 15 steals in 5 games and is the only defensive guard we got now that Shamet went down, with deuce second. But yes, please tell me more how Mikal is the problem defensively and not Hart who was the main guy defensively against Franz, and was at one point -22 and finished the game a game low -19. Tell me more bro.

you didn't answer the question. who has he locked up? we gave him a superstar package to do those things. not sure how you can even defend that trade. he's an good off ball defender but he gets cooked in his match ups.

and you do realize if we didnt give up all those picks for mikal, giannis would be a knick right now.



I know that’s the common assumption, but I don’t think we can definitively say that’s 100% true. Those picks are pretty meh and the Bucks are delusional enough to believe they have a chance to contend given the huge contract to Myles. They asked for Jalen in return this past summer, and that’s a helluva lot more value than those picks…


Exactly. Just cause Giannis COULD have gone for those five picks doesn’t mean that he would. Case in point Luka and the lakers. I guarantee if the bucks got those picks, they would still try to strip the team asking for hart, deuce and OG ALONG with the picks.

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