Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page

[41Dirk41]

Who says no?

DAL Receives: J. Brown / G. Niang / P. Pritchard / K. Love / B. Scheierman / J. Walsh / ‘26 DET 2nd via BOS + Exum Cut

BOS Receives: A. Davis / K. Anderson / J. Hardy / D. Russell / ‘27 Lakers 1st via DAL

UTA Receives: S. Houser / C. Martin / N. Marshall / Max cash considerations via DAL (~8M) / ‘26 NOP 2nd via BOS

Post-Deadline Rotation/Depth Chart:

PG: Irving (30) / Pritchard (18) / Wright / Nembhard
SG: Brown (24) / Christie (24) / Scheierman
SF: Flagg (14) / Thompson (24) / Brown (10) / Walsh
PF: Washington Jr. (28) / Flagg (20) / Niang
C: Lively (24) / Gafford (18) / Love (6) / Powell

No where team.

Hard pass for me.

[Super Cooper]

Who says no?

DAL Receives: J. Brown / G. Niang / P. Pritchard / K. Love / B. Scheierman / J. Walsh / ‘26 DET 2nd via BOS + Exum Cut

BOS Receives: A. Davis / K. Anderson / J. Hardy / D. Russell / ‘27 Lakers 1st via DAL

UTA Receives: S. Houser / C. Martin / N. Marshall / Max cash considerations via DAL (~8M) / ‘26 NOP 2nd via BOS

Post-Deadline Rotation/Depth Chart:

PG: Irving (30) / Pritchard (18) / Wright / Nembhard
SG: Brown (24) / Christie (24) / Scheierman
SF: Flagg (14) / Thompson (24) / Brown (10) / Walsh
PF: Washington Jr. (28) / Flagg (20) / Niang
C: Lively (24) / Gafford (18) / Love (6) / Powell

No where team.

Hard pass for me.

Rosters aren't rebuilt in a single trade, at least one not so bad. It's undeniable that the Mavs are better after this trade. You trade AD/Max/Naji/pieces for a legit starting PG and a Finals MVP SG while not getting rid of your key core. Max IMO may currently be at his ceiling.

[Super Cooper]

What do y'all think the Mavs interest in Lamelo is?

IMO, if you can get him in a package for AD, and not Kyrie, and several first round picks, you do it.

CLT has 1ea 2026 FRP and 3ea 2027 FRPs (one of them ours).

[Archx]

What do y'all think the Mavs interest in Lamelo is?

IMO, if you can get him in a package for AD, and not Kyrie, and several first round picks, you do it.

CLT has 1ea 2026 FRP and 3ea 2027 FRPs (one of them ours).

Changing one street cloths for another street cloths? Nah.... Plus LaMelo doesn't even play winning basketball and is also insanely immature. You want someone like that around Flagg?

[Super Cooper]

Gafford was always meant to be traded, even with Nico there. His value is going to go only down with nobody to make plays for him and he never was very good defender.

Huh? They extended him. With DLive's glass skeletal system, Gaff is seen as necessary in the FO. What indicators do you have otherwise?

Because they have too many Cs and no guards and Gafford was the easiest player to be moved. That was reasoning before Nico was fired. Now with season more or less over Mavs shouldn't be concerned about how healthy their Cs are, losing might be even beneficial. Gafford value is not likely going up with how team or he is playing either. Just look how his Fg% dropped. He has the worst FG% of his career.

I was replying to your notion that "Gafford was always meant to be traded". I understand that's your opinion, but there is no indication that is or certainly was their intention.

I look at all of this from two different perspectives: 1. What is realistic with the FO. 2. What makes the most sense.

While your assertion meets #2, it doesn't #1 (especially stating that even with Nico he was meant to be traded).

Lively only works with Gaff or a similar C. To have him on the court, he needs to be platooned. His minutes...
Duke - 20.6mins (52%) in 34 games (94%) = 49%
23/24 - 23.5 (49%) in 54 games (66%) = 32%
24/25 - 23.1mins (48%) in 36 games (44%) = 21%
25/26 - 16.4mins (24%) in 7 games (47%) = 11%

It ain't trending well!

[Bob8]

Huh? They extended him. With DLive's glass skeletal system, Gaff is seen as necessary in the FO. What indicators do you have otherwise?

Because they have too many Cs and no guards and Gafford was the easiest player to be moved. That was reasoning before Nico was fired. Now with season more or less over Mavs shouldn't be concerned about how healthy their Cs are, losing might be even beneficial. Gafford value is not likely going up with how team or he is playing either. Just look how his Fg% dropped. He has the worst FG% of his career.

I was replying to your notion that "Gafford was always meant to be traded". I understand that's your opinion, but there is no indication that is or certainly was their intention.

I look at all of this from two different perspectives: 1. What is realistic with the FO. 2. What makes the most sense.

While your assertion meets #2, it doesn't #1 (especially stating that even with Nico he was meant to be traded).

Lively only works with Gaff or a similar C. To have him on the court, he needs to be platooned. His minutes...
Duke - 20.6mins (52%) in 34 games (94%) = 49%
23/24 - 23.5 (49%) in 54 games (66%) = 32%
24/25 - 23.1mins (48%) in 36 games (44%) = 21%
25/26 - 16.4mins (24%) in 7 games (47%) = 11%

It ain't trending well!

I don't believe our conversation is going anywhere. So we should rather agree to disagree.

[Super Cooper]

Because they have too many Cs and no guards and Gafford was the easiest player to be moved. That was reasoning before Nico was fired. Now with season more or less over Mavs shouldn't be concerned about how healthy their Cs are, losing might be even beneficial. Gafford value is not likely going up with how team or he is playing either. Just look how his Fg% dropped. He has the worst FG% of his career.

I was replying to your notion that "Gafford was always meant to be traded". I understand that's your opinion, but there is no indication that is or certainly was their intention.

I look at all of this from two different perspectives: 1. What is realistic with the FO. 2. What makes the most sense.

While your assertion meets #2, it doesn't #1 (especially stating that even with Nico he was meant to be traded).

Lively only works with Gaff or a similar C. To have him on the court, he needs to be platooned. His minutes...
Duke - 20.6mins (52%) in 34 games (94%) = 49%
23/24 - 23.5 (49%) in 54 games (66%) = 32%
24/25 - 23.1mins (48%) in 36 games (44%) = 21%
25/26 - 16.4mins (24%) in 7 games (47%) = 11%

It ain't trending well!

I don't believe our conversation is going anywhere. So we should rather agree to disagree.

Agreed, and the nuances could be because English isn't your first language. I'm totally respectful of that.

So, for all who think DLive is a "go-forward" centerpiece, you're being silly. DLive has shed at least 10% of minutes played every year since college. IMO, you trade him ASAP while he has ANY value. Pairing him with Klay or Caleb could return a quality more dependable player.

[Super Cooper]

What do y'all think the Mavs interest in Lamelo is?

IMO, if you can get him in a package for AD, and not Kyrie, and several first round picks, you do it.

CLT has 1ea 2026 FRP and 3ea 2027 FRPs (one of them ours).

Changing one street cloths for another street cloths? Nah.... Plus LaMelo doesn't even play winning basketball and is also insanely immature. You want someone like that around Flagg?

Ya, the injury history is troublesome. As far as winning basketball, that could have been said about PJ. CLT is atrocious and has been for seasons.

[Super Cooper]

Kessler? He's out for the season and is a RFA this summer.

DLive/Hardy for Kessler/Mykhailuk/Collier works.

For Dallas, this fits team tank, then evaluate what to do this summer with Kessler's Bird rights this summer. Move Gaff and sign Kessler, facilitate a S&T, let him walk for the cap relief, etc.

Utah gets DLive who can platoon with Nurkic this year and a rookie control his contract for 2 more years. They also get Hardy to replace the Sexton role.

[Maverick41]

Read on Twitter

Something around KAT for AD probably has some legs. My preference would be is for KAT to go to a 3rd team.

[41Dirk41]

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Something around KAT for AD probably has some legs. My preference would be is for KAT to go to a 3rd team.

Knicks have a collection of overpaid players, hell no.

[Mr B]

What do y'all think the Mavs interest in Lamelo is?

IMO, if you can get him in a package for AD, and not Kyrie, and several first round picks, you do it.

CLT has 1ea 2026 FRP and 3ea 2027 FRPs (one of them ours).

If the Mavs are prioritizing defense and discipline then there is no chance they want Lamelo. It’s also why DLo will also be gone as soon as the season is over.

[Mr B]

What do y'all think the Mavs interest in Lamelo is?

IMO, if you can get him in a package for AD, and not Kyrie, and several first round picks, you do it.

CLT has 1ea 2026 FRP and 3ea 2027 FRPs (one of them ours).

Changing one street cloths for another street cloths? Nah.... Plus LaMelo doesn't even play winning basketball and is also insanely immature. You want someone like that around Flagg?

Lamelo plays horrible defense and has the worst shot selection for a starting PG.

[Mr B]

Huh? They extended him. With DLive's glass skeletal system, Gaff is seen as necessary in the FO. What indicators do you have otherwise?

Because they have too many Cs and no guards and Gafford was the easiest player to be moved. That was reasoning before Nico was fired. Now with season more or less over Mavs shouldn't be concerned about how healthy their Cs are, losing might be even beneficial. Gafford value is not likely going up with how team or he is playing either. Just look how his Fg% dropped. He has the worst FG% of his career.

I was replying to your notion that "Gafford was always meant to be traded". I understand that's your opinion, but there is no indication that is or certainly was their intention.

I look at all of this from two different perspectives: 1. What is realistic with the FO. 2. What makes the most sense.

While your assertion meets #2, it doesn't #1 (especially stating that even with Nico he was meant to be traded).

Lively only works with Gaff or a similar C. To have him on the court, he needs to be platooned. His minutes...
Duke - 20.6mins (52%) in 34 games (94%) = 49%
23/24 - 23.5 (49%) in 54 games (66%) = 32%
24/25 - 23.1mins (48%) in 36 games (44%) = 21%
25/26 - 16.4mins (24%) in 7 games (47%) = 11%

It ain't trending well!

I actually agree with you about Lively. He’s quickly becoming Street Clothes 2.0

And I really like Gafford however the Mavs may already have his replacement. Can Moussa Cisse develop into Gafford type of center (and be just as good)? I think the answer is yes. So as much as I like keeping the tandom of Gafford/Lively the continued development of Cisse kind of makes Gafford expendable.

[Mr B]

I was replying to your notion that "Gafford was always meant to be traded". I understand that's your opinion, but there is no indication that is or certainly was their intention.

I look at all of this from two different perspectives: 1. What is realistic with the FO. 2. What makes the most sense.

While your assertion meets #2, it doesn't #1 (especially stating that even with Nico he was meant to be traded).

Lively only works with Gaff or a similar C. To have him on the court, he needs to be platooned. His minutes...
Duke - 20.6mins (52%) in 34 games (94%) = 49%
23/24 - 23.5 (49%) in 54 games (66%) = 32%
24/25 - 23.1mins (48%) in 36 games (44%) = 21%
25/26 - 16.4mins (24%) in 7 games (47%) = 11%

It ain't trending well!

I don't believe our conversation is going anywhere. So we should rather agree to disagree.

Agreed, and the nuances could be because English isn't your first language. I'm totally respectful of that.

So, for all who think DLive is a "go-forward" centerpiece, you're being silly. DLive has shed at least 10% of minutes played every year since college. IMO, you trade him ASAP while he has ANY value. Pairing him with Klay or Caleb could return a quality more dependable player.

I will say that Gafford/Cisse will play a ton more minutes than Lively/Gafford. Maybe trading Lively is the better option.

[Mr B]

Read on Twitter

Something around KAT for AD probably has some legs. My preference would be is for KAT to go to a 3rd team.

His contract looks worse than AD’s, not thanks. I saw that trade proposal on Twitter. That trade has the Mavs giving up AD AND A 1st. Screw that! I want no part of KAT on the Mavs.

[Bob8]

I don't believe our conversation is going anywhere. So we should rather agree to disagree.

Agreed, and the nuances could be because English isn't your first language. I'm totally respectful of that.

So, for all who think DLive is a "go-forward" centerpiece, you're being silly. DLive has shed at least 10% of minutes played every year since college. IMO, you trade him ASAP while he has ANY value. Pairing him with Klay or Caleb could return a quality more dependable player.

I will say that Gafford/Cisse will play a ton more minutes than Lively/Gafford. Maybe trading Lively is the better option.

Trading Lively for who? His trading value is extremely low at the moment and his contract is only 5 mio, so you will need to add someone like Klay, who is probably negative asset. You're not getting anything good back for sure. He's still very young, so it has much more sense to wait and hope he becomes healthier.

[arkuo]

Lively hasn't proven he can stay healthy for long stretches of the season. I don't think he's max contract worthy.

[Mr B]

Agreed, and the nuances could be because English isn't your first language. I'm totally respectful of that.

So, for all who think DLive is a "go-forward" centerpiece, you're being silly. DLive has shed at least 10% of minutes played every year since college. IMO, you trade him ASAP while he has ANY value. Pairing him with Klay or Caleb could return a quality more dependable player.

I will say that Gafford/Cisse will play a ton more minutes than Lively/Gafford. Maybe trading Lively is the better option.

Trading Lively for who? His trading value is extremely low at the moment and his contract is only 5 mio, so you will need to add someone like Klay, who is probably negative asset. You're not getting anything good back for sure. He's still very young, so it has much more sense to wait and hope he becomes healthier.

You seem to be under the impression that when I say trade Lively you think I mean trade him right now for a sack of beans. That would be idiotic. Obviously he has to play and raise his stock. If that means trading him after you resign him that’s fine. But the fact is he’s injury prone. So unless you’re fine playing him an average of about 25 min a game (exactly how they managed Tyson Chandler in 2011) he’s going to continue to get hurt.

[Mr B]

Lively hasn't proven he can stay healthy for long stretches of the season. I don't think he's max contract worthy.

Exactly! So if/when he’s resigned no way is he sniffing a max contract. He should be signed to A very team friendly deal that makes it easy to trade him.