PG - Knicks fooled easily by Magic

[Guano]

no they won't trade him for KAT. Because KAT sucks and is the reason why we are so bad. haven't you heard?

Kat is the problem.

for having our best season in 25 years and not tanking?

Attributing that to kat and not brunson or og being here a full season is wild.

And its nasty work to give kat those flowers and direct disdain for the coach who lead us.

Be better Reign!!!!!!!!!


Also were not living in the past. New season new goals. And kat is playing like sht. Nostalgia is unhealthy. Live for today with goals in mind.

[Guano]

if brown was able to salvage mikal, great, take that win and flip kat to a team that'll need a big name tank commander. these guys are dispirited bc they can't stop other teams from scoring lol i'm willing to sacrifice a little raw talent for a dog at this point bc we know for a fact jb can go to work if he's got that surrounding him

Mikal really is a demon. Nuked our future. Killed the beat coach of the century. And all for his shine.

people hate on the plus minus stat but examples like this are fun.

dude was plus 1 in 38 minutes. that means the knicks were -13 in 10 minutes when he sat. crazy stuff.

i don't remember but assume he was on the bench to start the 4th when the magic went on the run that won them the game.

I dont remember either but ill buy it.

He is playing great hoops right now. He is the least of our problems.

[3toheadmelo]

the team is suspect right now

You guys knocking those of us saying chill n be patient as if you were the ones saying be patient last year and we weren’t on board is great rewriting of history lol. That’s the exact opposite of what happened last season.

The same people saying to chill n be patient are the same ones that said chill n be patient last year when people were hysterical about KAT, Mikal, the bench and the kids when you guys were saying they all sucked and it was all a mistake… then we got to the ECF.

I wouldn’t even be shocked if there’s a bit of these guys kinda going thru the motions and coasting buying into their own hype knowing they’ll make the playoffs and no matter what seed we get, it’s all the same to them with the East wide open and no real threat.

I honestly don’t think I’m hitting a panic button at all this season as long as we’re healthy come playoff time.

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

Every GM in the league is taking Chet over KAT lol

[Guano]

the team is suspect right now

You guys knocking those of us saying chill n be patient as if you were the ones saying be patient last year and we weren’t on board is great rewriting of history lol. That’s the exact opposite of what happened last season.

The same people saying to chill n be patient are the same ones that said chill n be patient last year when people were hysterical about KAT, Mikal, the bench and the kids when you guys were saying they all sucked and it was all a mistake… then we got to the ECF.

I wouldn’t even be shocked if there’s a bit of these guys kinda going thru the motions and coasting buying into their own hype knowing they’ll make the playoffs and no matter what seed we get, it’s all the same to them with the East wide open and no real threat.

I honestly don’t think I’m hitting a panic button at all this season as long as we’re healthy come playoff time.

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

[spree2kawhi]

You guys knocking those of us saying chill n be patient as if you were the ones saying be patient last year and we weren’t on board is great rewriting of history lol. That’s the exact opposite of what happened last season.

The same people saying to chill n be patient are the same ones that said chill n be patient last year when people were hysterical about KAT, Mikal, the bench and the kids when you guys were saying they all sucked and it was all a mistake… then we got to the ECF.

I wouldn’t even be shocked if there’s a bit of these guys kinda going thru the motions and coasting buying into their own hype knowing they’ll make the playoffs and no matter what seed we get, it’s all the same to them with the East wide open and no real threat.

I honestly don’t think I’m hitting a panic button at all this season as long as we’re healthy come playoff time.

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

It’s not the worst bet to take. I’m resting easy. Towns has made the conference finals in consecutive years, and I’d rather bet on a ten-year résumé than a single month of a shooting slump. That might just be me, though — I’ve heard some emos still haven’t gotten over that one random month of January. Cry me a river

[rajajackal]

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

It’s not the worst bet to take. I’m resting easy. Towns has made the conference finals in consecutive years, and I’d rather bet on a ten-year résumé than a single month of a shooting slump. That might just be me, though — I’ve heard some emos still haven’t gotten over that one random month of January. Cry me a river

my issue with kat atm is not that his shots aren't going down. it's his decision-making on both sides of the ball throughout the game. he only seems locked in about 25% of the time. it's been rough to watch. i know he can do better, but i'm not capable of unwavering patience at this juncture because we're chasing a closing window for this championship

[spree2kawhi]

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

It’s not the worst bet to take. I’m resting easy. Towns has made the conference finals in consecutive years, and I’d rather bet on a ten-year résumé than a single month of a shooting slump. That might just be me, though — I’ve heard some emos still haven’t gotten over that one random month of January. Cry me a river

my issue with kat atm is not that his shots aren't going down. it's his decision-making on both sides of the ball throughout the game. he only seems locked in about 25% of the time. it's been rough to watch. i know he can do better, but i'm not capable of unwavering patience at this juncture because we're chasing a closing window for this championship

I agree with that. He’s still a great passer and in the playoffs he’ll be locked in regardless. He won’t be good defensively, but no one here can complain that he hasn’t played physically or with a lot of passion last year. All I’m saying is people need to stop crying - most other (top) teams are very flawed, too.

[god shammgod]

i don't know why you addressed that to me. i never "knocked" you. with all due respect, i don't care what the f*ck you think lol

[ctorres]

December 7th the Knicks will face the Magic in MSG at noon

Knicks will get their revenge then. There has to be too much pride to lose to them 3 times

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

[thebuzzardman]

December 7th the Knicks will face the Magic in MSG at noon

Knicks will get their revenge then. There has to be too much pride to lose to them 3 times

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

It's a shame people can't be more optimistic.

[god shammgod]

December 7th the Knicks will face the Magic in MSG at noon

Knicks will get their revenge then. There has to be too much pride to lose to them 3 times

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

don't you think we're past the point of being happy to just have a decent team ?

we gave away all the picks we could. we're right up against the 2nd apron. we were in the eastern conference finals last year. we're supposed to be a contender. so we're judged by that criteria. it's not an accomplishment to be pretty good anymore. and so far we don't look like we can compete at the highest levels. that could change but noticing it now is not being negative. it's just being aware.

[spree2kawhi]

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

It's a shame people can't be more optimistic.

[spree8]

You guys knocking those of us saying chill n be patient as if you were the ones saying be patient last year and we weren’t on board is great rewriting of history lol. That’s the exact opposite of what happened last season.

The same people saying to chill n be patient are the same ones that said chill n be patient last year when people were hysterical about KAT, Mikal, the bench and the kids when you guys were saying they all sucked and it was all a mistake… then we got to the ECF.

I wouldn’t even be shocked if there’s a bit of these guys kinda going thru the motions and coasting buying into their own hype knowing they’ll make the playoffs and no matter what seed we get, it’s all the same to them with the East wide open and no real threat.

I honestly don’t think I’m hitting a panic button at all this season as long as we’re healthy come playoff time.

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

Worked last year until a certain somebody cost us an epic loss in Game 1 of the ECF!!!

[Guano]

This team is just absurdly talented and posters are conveniently disregarding that, along with the fact that Houston, Denver and even OKC have their own issues. Houston has no PG to begin with, Thompson currently boasts a 21% 3P%, Houston’s bigs are even worse defensively than ours, Denver’s Gordon and Johnson are inferior and much more frustrating players compared to Bridges and OG, Braun is no McBride either (21% 3P%, too), and most importantly, when it comes to OKC, our oh so terrible KAT will eat Holmgren alive in the playoffs. I get it, they’re good, but the grass isn’t necessarily greener on the other side just because Towns is not quite Giannis Antetokounmpo. I’d much rather have Towns than Murray or Holmgren, for example - 33.9 3P% btw

The sprees waiting for us to get right all season and flip the switch in tbe playoffs... again

Worked last year until a certain somebody cost us an epic loss in Game 1 of the ECF!!!

I KNOW you arent pinning that loss on mah boi!!!!!!!

[ctorres]

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

don't you think we're past the point of being happy to just have a decent team ?

we gave away all the picks we could. we're right up against the 2nd apron. we were in the eastern conference finals last year. we're supposed to be a contender. so we're judged by that criteria. it's not an accomplishment to be pretty good anymore. and so far we don't look like we can compete at the highest levels. that could change but noticing it now is not being negative. it's just being aware.

Last playoffs, we went into the Boston series thinking we were gonna get smoked. Then we pulled off the unthinkable.

I learned from last year that the regular season can only determine so much. You also don't have to be a 50+ win team or even have homecourt advantage to make it to the Finals.

I know the holes on the team, I feel it's mostly with our supporting cast. League is getting younger, taller, longer, and more athletic. For some role players, mid to late 20's feels like the new early 30's. League caught up quick so, so dominating won't be as easy as we expected. There is A LOT of parity thus far.

I still have hope though. Diawara is tailor made for the current NBA landscape and we are actually starting to give him minutes. I am glad the team knows Diawara has a higher ceiling than Dadiet, and won't waste time trying to showcase Dadiet's value as a 1st round pick in favor of Diawara's development.

I never thought Kolek would see minutes next to Brunson, and Mike Brown actually tried it. Is Kolek a smart enough player to make up for his physical shortcomings? That's what will determine whether he stays in the NBA.

Jalen is still elite.

Mikal is unlocking new parts to his game. I feel like the team would benefit more right now if he got more shots up, but maybe him facilitating is part of a longterm plan to make the rest of the team better. The same way Mikal stepped up offensively when Jalen was out last year, we might need Mikal to step up now in the short term.

KAT's percentages are down, but I still see moments of elite talent. I want to believe he can get it together. The debate with him will always be whether his offense can overcome his defensive shortcomings.

We wanted the Yabu from Philly and we got hosed. We are trying to make the best of it, but that signing really screwed us. Toronto got Mamu for half what we paid Yabu, and we had a front row seat to Mamu lighting us up last year. I wonder how we missed on going for Mamu and if we really thought Yabu was better.

I think we will see some trades this season. Can't really make trades yet until after December 15th. A few tweaks might be what the team needs. Games should still be fun to watch until then, win or lose. There has to be something to take from every game.

Criticisms are valid on the team, but losing our fighting spirt less than 20 games into the season?! Where we can't even be excited to get revenge on the Magic and should just prepare to go in disappointed into every game because our team is flawed and might lose?!

[prophet_of_rage]

December 7th the Knicks will face the Magic in MSG at noon

Knicks will get their revenge then. There has to be too much pride to lose to them 3 times

You might be disappointed.

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Man, what's even the point of rooting for this team if it's just gonna be gloom and doom all the time for a team playing .600 ball

I gotta find a way to take a break from here

It's just a matchup issue. Look at it from a basketball perspective.

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[spree8]

i don't know why you addressed that to me. i never "knocked" you. with all due respect, i don't care what the f*ck you think lol

Gaslighting now? lol, I’m imagining all last season and this season? You weren’t just yesterday all up in the Hezi convo talkin this no patience shyt? Ok lol.. sure looks like you care quite a bit

[god shammgod]

i don't know why you addressed that to me. i never "knocked" you. with all due respect, i don't care what the f*ck you think lol

Gaslighting now? lol, I’m imagining all last season and this season? You weren’t just yesterday all up in the Hezi convo talkin this no patience shyt? Ok lol.. sure looks like you care quite a bit

I think you’re confusing me with Melo. That wasn’t me.

[spree8]

i don't know why you addressed that to me. i never "knocked" you. with all due respect, i don't care what the f*ck you think lol

Gaslighting now? lol, I’m imagining all last season and this season? You weren’t just yesterday all up in the Hezi convo talkin this no patience shyt? Ok lol.. sure looks like you care quite a bit

I think you’re confusing me with Melo. That wasn’t me.

[3toheadmelo]

i don't know why you addressed that to me. i never "knocked" you. with all due respect, i don't care what the f*ck you think lol

Gaslighting now? lol, I’m imagining all last season and this season? You weren’t just yesterday all up in the Hezi convo talkin this no patience shyt? Ok lol.. sure looks like you care quite a bit

I think you’re confusing me with Melo. That wasn’t me.

that wasn’t me either