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Post#641 » by daoneandonly » Tue Nov 25, 2025 7:50 pm

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daoneandonly wrote:Is there a 3 (or 4) team trade where AD and Brandon Williams goes to the NYK, OG goes to team X, and Dallas gets '26 Knicks pick, McBride, Mitchell Robinson, and assets from team X?


Knicks still can’t trade any picks. Only swaps and the fake Washington first.


Yea didnt notice that Wiz pick was protected where it wont convey
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Post#642 » by jayjaysee » Tue Nov 25, 2025 8:00 pm

Losing the plot.

Klay to Boston
Simons to Brooklyn
Mann to Dallas

Boston takes Klay since it’s a two year versus three year deal. An easier contract to move next season with minor assets for minor help. Or a bigger move. Whatever. Plays ten day contract game at deadline to duck the tax the rest of the way.

Brooklyn gets off Mann’s future money completely.

Dallas takes on the extra year of Mann to hopefully upgrade the 2026-2027 rotation a bit? The 1.2 mil this season is pretty minor, but if they end up aiming to duck the tax this season - every bit will help.
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Post#643 » by brackdan70 » Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:19 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Lively out for "extended period of time" according to Stein, what a season from hell.for the Mavs...

Bright side maybe they end up with 2 of the top 10 prospects of the last 20 years.
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Post#644 » by Diop » Yesterday 5:32 am

daoneandonly wrote:Is there a 3 (or 4) team trade where AD and Brandon Williams goes to the NYK, OG goes to team X, and Dallas gets '26 Knicks pick, McBride, Mitchell Robinson, and assets from team X?

Charlotte maybe as OG would be an upgrade over Miles, would like another Pf as well though.
I'm sure Dallas would love their pick back from us, it is only top 2 protected in 2027. We would want Miles going out though, who is taking him?
Can we get PJ Washington back?
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Post#645 » by ReggiesKnicks » Yesterday 5:46 am

Diop wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Is there a 3 (or 4) team trade where AD and Brandon Williams goes to the NYK, OG goes to team X, and Dallas gets '26 Knicks pick, McBride, Mitchell Robinson, and assets from team X?

Charlotte maybe as OG would be an upgrade over Miles, would like another Pf as well though.
I'm sure Dallas would love their pick back from us, it is only top 2 protected in 2027. We would want Miles going out though, who is taking him?
Can we get PJ Washington back?


You want OG and PJ? How Many 1sts or Brandon Millers are you willing to give?
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Post#646 » by Diop » Yesterday 6:38 am

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Diop wrote:
daoneandonly wrote:Is there a 3 (or 4) team trade where AD and Brandon Williams goes to the NYK, OG goes to team X, and Dallas gets '26 Knicks pick, McBride, Mitchell Robinson, and assets from team X?

Charlotte maybe as OG would be an upgrade over Miles, would like another Pf as well though.
I'm sure Dallas would love their pick back from us, it is only top 2 protected in 2027. We would want Miles going out though, who is taking him?
Can we get PJ Washington back?


You want OG and PJ? How Many 1sts or Brandon Millers are you willing to give?

Just opening the discussion, what’s the cost? Charlotte have a few picks to throw around and who knows how real the ball rumours are.

My gut tells me that Charlotte won’t do anything that will affect their draft position at the moment. Maybe in the offseason
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Post#647 » by babyjax13 » Yesterday 7:17 am

Could Memphis go for Sabonis to pair with JJJ and do a soft tank since he is likely to miss a bunch of time? I've seen Ja for Sabonis, that seems less likely to me, I think Ja is just totally toxic and untradeable right now...but maybe something like KCP+Clarke+Edey+a first?
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Post#648 » by SkyHook » Yesterday 7:39 am

babyjax13 wrote:Could Memphis go for Sabonis to pair with JJJ and do a soft tank since he is likely to miss a bunch of time? I've seen Ja for Sabonis, that seems less likely to me, I think Ja is just totally toxic and untradeable right now...but maybe something like KCP+Clarke+Edey+a first?

I think that Edey is one of the few keepers on that team. With the way both he and Sabonis have been playing, I'm not sure that I do a one for one swap.
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Post#649 » by daoneandonly » Yesterday 12:15 pm

Diop wrote:
ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Diop wrote:Charlotte maybe as OG would be an upgrade over Miles, would like another Pf as well though.
I'm sure Dallas would love their pick back from us, it is only top 2 protected in 2027. We would want Miles going out though, who is taking him?
Can we get PJ Washington back?


You want OG and PJ? How Many 1sts or Brandon Millers are you willing to give?

Just opening the discussion, what’s the cost? Charlotte have a few picks to throw around and who knows how real the ball rumours are.

My gut tells me that Charlotte won’t do anything that will affect their draft position at the moment. Maybe in the offseason


PJ cant be traded this season due to the extension, and Dal shouldnt. He's not some superstar, but he very well may be the team's heart and soul. He sets the tone defensively, stands up for teammates in scuffles, and just has that swag every team needs

But would love to get our pick back for OG, and one of Cooper's buddies in Liam or Sion.
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Post#650 » by jayjaysee » Yesterday 4:59 pm

Another one not worth it’s own thread so I don’t get yelled at too much..

AD to Chicago
Sabonis to Dallas
Collins, Huerter to Chicago

Maybe Dallas gets a Chicago first and Sac gets Noa and the Portland first? Maybe a fourth team involved getting Carter and a second to make the money work?

Maybe more value is needed to Dallas or Sac but that’s why it’s in this thread?

Dallas gets to commit to the one year tank by keeping Sabonis out longer than he needs, but next season he should look really good with PJ/Flagg defense? The swap also saves a lot of money this season and makes it really easy to get under the tax later..

Chicago gets AD without giving up firsts after this season?

Sac gets an interesting raw prospect and a first that could convey?

Meh.
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Post#651 » by Godaddycurse » Yesterday 5:07 pm

jayjaysee wrote:Another one not worth it’s own thread so I don’t get yelled at too much..

AD to Chicago
Sabonis to Dallas
Collins, Huerter to Chicago

Maybe Dallas gets a Chicago first and Sac gets Noa and the Portland first? Maybe a fourth team involved getting Carter and a second to make the money work?

Maybe more value is needed to Dallas or Sac but that’s why it’s in this thread?

Dallas gets to commit to the one year tank by keeping Sabonis out longer than he needs, but next season he should look really good with PJ/Flagg defense? The swap also saves a lot of money this season and makes it really easy to get under the tax later..

Chicago gets AD without giving up firsts after this season?

Sac gets an interesting raw prospect and a first that could convey?

Meh.


Is there protection on the 2026 CHI 1st?
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Post#652 » by jayjaysee » Yesterday 5:28 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Another one not worth it’s own thread so I don’t get yelled at too much..

AD to Chicago
Sabonis to Dallas
Collins, Huerter to Chicago

Maybe Dallas gets a Chicago first and Sac gets Noa and the Portland first? Maybe a fourth team involved getting Carter and a second to make the money work?

Maybe more value is needed to Dallas or Sac but that’s why it’s in this thread?

Dallas gets to commit to the one year tank by keeping Sabonis out longer than he needs, but next season he should look really good with PJ/Flagg defense? The swap also saves a lot of money this season and makes it really easy to get under the tax later..

Chicago gets AD without giving up firsts after this season?

Sac gets an interesting raw prospect and a first that could convey?

Meh.


Is there protection on the 2026 CHI 1st?


I don’t know what protections to suggest, but understand it should have the top end. But since Chicago isn’t adding the 2028 first in this fake example, feel like it shouldn’t be very strong?

So top 4 protected? Then unprotected 2027?
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Post#653 » by mlloyd10 » Yesterday 7:10 pm

Need a PF that can rebound and only making around $4mil - Gary Trent or Gary Harris is the trade chip
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Post#654 » by dcstanley » Yesterday 9:00 pm

Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?
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Post#655 » by babyjax13 » Yesterday 9:02 pm

dcstanley wrote:Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?

I really like this. Gets LAL some defenders, gets Philly a 1st. Not sure who the Rui team is, but I bet they can be found? But a direct trade may also make sense - either Rui, or Vincent + Kleber.
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Post#656 » by JHFVF07 » Yesterday 10:16 pm

dcstanley wrote:Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?


Im not spending a 1st to turn Rui into Oubre and Grimes. At least take Vando out of our hands!
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Post#657 » by kobe_vs_jordan » Yesterday 10:20 pm

dcstanley wrote:Oubre and Grimes to LAL
Rui to third team
2 SRPs, expiring contract and a protected 2031 LAL first to PHI

Basically, LAL flips Rui to a third team in need of a PF for two seconds and an expiring then flips those and a 1st to PHI. Does this framework make any sense?

Not sure it makes sense for LA to send Rui for some seconds just so they can send a first for Philly players. Lakers have other expirings to use.

Finacially lakers can’t afford grimes next season at his current contract demands.

Trade wise would rather wait till the summer when lakers have multiple picks to trade. They can find long term fits then.
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Post#658 » by zimpy27 » Today 12:01 am

Rui for Grayson Allen is a trade that makes sense
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Post#659 » by DNP-Old » Today 2:03 am

LAL sends Vincent, '31 1st (top 4 protected) to the Nets, Knecht and '32 2nd to the Kings. LAL receives Sharp, Carter and Ellis.

The Nets send Sharp to LAL and '27, '30 and '31 LAL 2nds to the Kings. The Nets receive Vincent and the LAL '31 1st.

The Kings send Carter and Ellis to LAL and receive Knecht and the four LAL 2nds.
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Post#660 » by Godaddycurse » Today 2:15 am

zimpy27 wrote:Rui for Grayson Allen is a trade that makes sense


Think phoenix prefer allens extra year of control

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