The 2025 Rookie Class

[closg00]

I think the next few weeks will be real interesting for Queen. He has no doubt been exceptional on offense, and the on/off numbers suggest he hasn't been killing them on defense either. But now that he has emerged as a legitimate threat to opposing teams, I expect teams to actually strategize how to counter him. Which likely means they will try and attack him on defense.

I've noticed his on/off differential is starting to decline and the last couple of games were negative. This could be merely an aberration, or it could be the start of a new trend.

Teams may be able to reduce his post effectiveness via double-teams etc, but he will make them pay via assists, his assist numbers are very good.

AI Prompt: Where does Derik Queen rank among backup centers in assists

“Derik Queen ranks among the top backup centers in assists with an average of 3.3 assists per game. Compared to other backup centers in the 2025 NBA season, he is one of the higher assist producers, ranking within the upper tier of backup centers by assists. While elite starters like Nikola Jokić and Domantas Sabonis have much higher assist numbers, Queen’s 3.3 assists per game place him above many backup centers who average around 1.5 to 2.5 assists. This solidifies his role as a playmaking center off the bench in the league”
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-assist-leaders-2025-centers

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Pels were up 15 at the half against the grizzlies but still managed to lose anyway. Their new "offensive engine" was -24 in 23 minutes. I can't imagine how that could happen.

Jose Alvarado (÷25) and Yves Missi (+19) were more effective than Jeremiah Fears (-28) and Derik Queen(-24).

Zack Edey (+39), Vince Williams (+27), and Cedric Coward (+24) saw their lineups win.

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The Pels were up 15 at the half against the grizzlies but still managed to lose anyway. Their new "offensive engine" was -24 in 23 minutes. I can't imagine how that could happen.

Fair enough, I was going by a vague recollection, who did you stick your neck out for in the 2025 draft?
Your hate on DQ is going to look really foolish, sooner rather than later, but especially later.

I wouldn't even be mentioning Queen if CCJ wasn't obsessed with him and posting 'we should have drafted Queen ' ad nauseum.

I didn't say much of anything about Queen prior to the draft. I was pretty much indifferent about him.

I had Ace/Tre/VJ at 3-5. I did post about Riley a few times as a possibility at 18.

I am now obsessed with telling you that you're the only person I seriously do not care for. Small minds attack people.

My ideas evolve. I removed my signature. I have made several posts with updates on Queen:

--Coward has outperformed him.
--The deal doesn't look good for Crescent City, even to me.
--Yves Missi is effective at C and should start there with Queen at PF/C

You can think the worst of me. I think you won't admit when you are wrong and you truly resent the success Derik Queen is having. You hate that I predicted that he would be successful.

You hate that others rated him behind Knueppel, Flagg, Coward, and IIRC Edgecombe as the fifth best rookie when he was drafted 13th overall.

Happy Thanksgiving, Jive Turkey.

(George Jefferson)



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[DCZards]

Queen has been ballin’ out most nights. I think he’s on his way to being a top center in the association.

I was down on Derik in college because I thought he was lazy and indifferent on D. He still needs to improve there. But the impressive and diverse offensive skills he’s showing now were there at Maryland as well.

No need to keep crapping on Queen just because CCJ is relishing the fact that it looks like he was right about him…just not the part about the Zards missing out on him. I’m still very happy we drafted Tre.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I think the next few weeks will be real interesting for Queen. He has no doubt been exceptional on offense, and the on/off numbers suggest he hasn't been killing them on defense either. But now that he has emerged as a legitimate threat to opposing teams, I expect teams to actually strategize how to counter him. Which likely means they will try and attack him on defense.

I've noticed his on/off differential is starting to decline and the last couple of games were negative. This could be merely an aberration, or it could be the start of a new trend.

In the last game, there was a giant dude named Edey playing for Memphis.

Two games ago, Chicago shot 50 threes and made an astounding 20. The Bulls have no traditional C. Queen had 4 fouls in 17 minutes. He provided 8 points, 5 rebounds, and 4 assists in that time.

Keeping in mind that he's a soon-to-be, 21-year-old rookie, I think Derik is off to a good start. No one remembers his fractured wrist surgery or his excess weight. I expect he will improve physically.

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[tontoz]

I don't hate Queen. I give no fs about Queen. I only watched one of his college games. Hardly mentioned him prior to the draft. Didn't mention him at all after the draft, in summer league or in preseason.

I made a lot of negative posts about Maluach prior to the draft, but not Queen.

[Kanyewest]

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[tontoz]

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Queen has been ballin’ out most nights. I think he’s on his way to being a top center in the association.

I was down on Derik in college because I thought he was lazy and indifferent on D. He still needs to improve there. But the impressive and diverse offensive skills he’s showing now were there at Maryland as well.

No need to keep crapping on Queen just because CCJ is relishing the fact that it looks like he was right about him…just not the part about the Zards missing out on him. I’m still very happy we drafted Tre.

Agree. & even if neither Derik nor Tre work out... lets please drop the negativity immediately. Especially in back & forths. We're all right sometimes & wrong other times. Hell... even the best GM in the league only gets it right some of the time!

Focus on the fuiture, my friends...! We're heading in the right direction, so stay the course!

[Kanyewest]

Queen has been ballin’ out most nights. I think he’s on his way to being a top center in the association.

I was down on Derik in college because I thought he was lazy and indifferent on D. He still needs to improve there. But the impressive and diverse offensive skills he’s showing now were there at Maryland as well.

No need to keep crapping on Queen just because CCJ is relishing the fact that it looks like he was right about him…just not the part about the Zards missing out on him. I’m still very happy we drafted Tre.

Yup 4th on the rookie ladder. Still has flaws in his game for sure but a very impressive rookie season so far.