LaMelephant: The LaMelo Ball Thread (#2)

[Bassman]

With respect, I don’t think the “real Melo” is an all star, consistent leader/decision maker who can be depended on to win games regularly via teamwork…and that’s not even discussing his health & chronic injury problems. I believe Melo sees the game through a specific lens, one that emphasizes fun, showtime plays and highlight moments.

If LaMelo plays so selfish our offense should be better when he is off the court just because someone isn't out there making bad passes, avoiding running the offense and taking bad shots. Except the number say otherwise.

So why would that be any different if we got rid of LaMelo tomorrow. Is that magically going to make Charles Lee offense work better?

There is understanding maybe a move can help sometimes, and there is just blind hoping for the best.

AND there is addition by subtraction. Melo won’t change, isn’t adapting, isn’t maturing as a pro, and despite his personality (which seems to make him genuinely liked by his teammates) his play isn’t cutting it here. Trade him for some competent guys who can contribute more than our current crop. It’s a way to better support Kon and Miller’s development than the circus act we get from Melo.

[Diop]

he looked terrible today, bad passes, decisions and touch.

he didn't look himself at all.

[wilson115]

Well, would've said I doubt they're trading him until next season when they get the team healthy and see how the draft shakes out. Not so sure of anything now.

[JDR720]

Pretty obvious his ankle isn't 100%.

[fatlever]

He looks like he can't beat anyone off the dribble right now or stay in front of anyone. I don't know how much of that is him just playing it 50% because he doesn't want to get hurt or the ankle just being unable to respond. probably both. He legit looks like the year Larry Johnson hurt his back. He literally couldn't jump that season. I think he had like one dunk The entire year. Except with Larry you never had to question effort.

[Liver_Pooty]

I still don’t trade him for a dime on the dollar. Same reason the hawks are hesitant in Trae and Memphis is hesitant on morant. If you make a trade like that it’s no where near a Luka deal. But it’s a you will immediately get fired deal if it doesn’t workout.

[Diop]

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[wilson115]

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[Diop]

I still don’t trade him for a dime on the dollar. Same reason the hawks are hesitant in Trae and Memphis is hesitant on morant. If you make a trade like that it’s no where near a Luka deal. But it’s a you will immediately get fired deal if it doesn’t workout.

if a trade cleared his salary for next year and got us an extra lottery pick I would consider it.

we aren't building a team in Ball's timeline. Start again with Kon, Miller and 2 x 2026 lottery picks.

[Liver_Pooty]

I still don’t trade him for a dime on the dollar. Same reason the hawks are hesitant in Trae and Memphis is hesitant on morant. If you make a trade like that it’s no where near a Luka deal. But it’s a you will immediately get fired deal if it doesn’t workout.

if a trade cleared his salary for next year and got us an extra lottery pick I would consider it.

we aren't building a team in Ball's timeline. Start again with Kon, Miller and 2 x 2026 lottery picks.

I’m conflicted. Maybe it’s ptsd as a panthers fan watching baker and Sam darnold go into success. Won’t even get into the cmc trade. I’d consider it but I’m still holding out. Lamelo is still young and his game isn’t predicated on athleticism like a Morant who is also playing like **** when he does play.

[Jkam31]

Kings fan here what would the price for Melo be?

[JDR720]

Haven't watched.

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[HornetJail]

Kings fan here what would the price for Melo be?

multiple Kings 1st round picks

[JDR720]

Nobody really knows how much value LaMelo has. Some think he has a lot, others think basically none.

[fatlever]

Kings fan here what would the price for Melo be?

Melo for sabonis. Let's **** do it already.

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[JMAC3]

With respect, I don’t think the “real Melo” is an all star, consistent leader/decision maker who can be depended on to win games regularly via teamwork…and that’s not even discussing his health & chronic injury problems. I believe Melo sees the game through a specific lens, one that emphasizes fun, showtime plays and highlight moments.

If LaMelo plays so selfish our offense should be better when he is off the court just because someone isn't out there making bad passes, avoiding running the offense and taking bad shots. Except the number say otherwise.

So why would that be any different if we got rid of LaMelo tomorrow. Is that magically going to make Charles Lee offense work better?

There is understanding maybe a move can help sometimes, and there is just blind hoping for the best.

AND there is addition by subtraction. Melo won’t change, isn’t adapting, isn’t maturing as a pro, and despite his personality (which seems to make him genuinely liked by his teammates) his play isn’t cutting it here. Trade him for some competent guys who can contribute more than our current crop. It’s a way to better support Kon and Miller’s development than the circus act we get from Melo.

So if he is the problem why are we so much worse when he isn't on the court. That is the issue with claiming addition by subtraction when we already have the data that says we are better when he plays despite the highlights of him being a bum that can be posted.

We have already been down this road where people have clamored addition by subtraction on several of our players, we got rid of them and we didn't get any better. So why would it change this time?

[Braggins]

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I don't 100% agree with this guys overall team building philosophy because I think in certain situations bottoming out and being terrible is appropriate, but I agree with a lot of his arguments and think the way the front office is currently building is not appropriate for their current circumstances. You can't just bottom out forever.

[Braggins]

If the organization doesn't change they are going to ruin Miller and eventually Kon as well and we are going to be having these same conversations with them in the next few years.

You can already see it happening with Miller. Remember his rookie year when everyone was convinced they should be building around him? We'll probably be having the same conversation about him being a loser player and needing to trade him in the next couple years.

[JMAC3]

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I don't 100% agree with this guys overall team building philosophy because I think in certain situations bottoming out and being terrible is appropriate, but I agree with a lot of his arguments and think the way the front office is currently building is not appropriate for their current circumstances. You can't just bottom out forever.

This has been preached on here, if you as an organization are not invested in winning then it is hard to preach effort and winning habits to a team when it is clear you are holding back any attempt to be competitive from coaching staff, roster construction, draft picks, low salary, wasted roster spots.

I need 110% effort while we give 40% effort as an organization or you are the problem and we have to trade you. It makes no sense.

[Braggins]

This front office was gifted LaMelo, Miller, and Mark. They got rid of Mark, LaMelo is probably on his way out, and I wouldn't be surprised if Miller has the same fate. The only relevant player theyve added is Kon. Their coaching hire also looks like a complete dud so far.