Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers

[JellosJigglin]

Everybody hates Chris.

[Memories]

cant even celebrate the Clippers demise because they're gifting OKC a lottery pick

I never understand this attitude from Laker fans. Your team has won all the titles and the little brother clippers haven't won anything. Why would you 'celebrate' them continuing to suck? It's not some heated rivalry, lol.

It's mostly Clippers fans being unapologetically arrogant (despite never winning anything) and the media that overhyped the Clippers to be better than the Lakers every year.

Not to mention the now infamous Clippers ad "streetlights over spotlights". Ballmer really tried to paint himself as a blue collar, hard working man.

[theforumblue]

Lue has to be held accountable to some degree here for refusing to meet with Paul, if the report is true.

That said, Frank has to go. Too much smoke from numerous players.

After that, Kawhi. If your supposed franchise player does whatever he wants but plays <35% of games, it's all gravy from there.

This. Like man up, be professional, and **** TALK. What a minnow.

I wonder which player(s) didn't directly say it to CP3's face but then Franks came a running middle of the night?

I'm guessing they already had some back and forth and another talk wasn't gonna go anywhere.

[canada_dry]

Jesus.

Read on Twitter

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Lou Williams saying that all the bad optics the Clippers have in relation to players being moved, etc is directly tied to Lawrence Frank is quite the call out.

Read on Twitter

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Yeah lawerence frank a real clown.

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[canada_dry]

I don't know of any problems he had while on the Suns.

Ayton. That was cancerous in the lockerroom. I know its ayton. But guess what? Its cp3.

The breakup wasnt pretty either. Had a fallout with ownership and zeke. Straight up publicly blamed zeke for shipping his ass out to washington lol

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Yeah, all of that seems like nothing I'd blame CP for.

Hes not blameless given his history either.

Like i said. I know. Its ayton. He has history. But so does cp3.

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[Woodsanity]

Garbo org from top to bottom.

[canada_dry]

Everyone is afraid to speak ill of the dead (or those with a dead career), but Paul famously grates on people. Don’t he have drama with Harden in Houston? Anyways I would love to mock the Clippers but this is probably a both sides issue.

Had drama on the clippers the 1st time around...

Nba on prime guys tease blake about his dislike for cp3 to this day

Had problems in houston

On the suns...



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So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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[WestbrookGOATed]

cant even celebrate the Clippers demise because they're gifting OKC a lottery pick

I never understand this attitude from Laker fans. Your team has won all the titles and the little brother clippers haven't won anything. Why would you 'celebrate' them continuing to suck? It's not some heated rivalry, lol.

It's mostly Clippers fans being unapologetically arrogant (despite never winning anything) and the media that overhyped the Clippers to be better than the Lakers every year.

Not to mention the now infamous Clippers ad "streetlights over spotlights". Ballmer really tried to paint himself as a blue collar, hard working man.

I don't have a dog in the fight but, I dont recall ever seeing the media hyping the Clippers to be better. Like ever lol.

[BlzMwt]

Had drama on the clippers the 1st time around...

Nba on prime guys tease blake about his dislike for cp3 to this day

Had problems in houston

On the suns...



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So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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Reading through this thread and your bias is showing hard.

Yes CP can be incredibly unlikeable. But there are a hell of a lot of teams and organizations that do respect him (New Orleans, OKC, Suns (you referencing Ayton's dislike is a joke)).

But pretty sure the universal backlash for the Clippers doing this and their recent and past history shouldn't giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They are in free fall.

Just because you dislike Paul doesn't make the Clipper actions right.

[madmaxmedia]

So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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Reading through this thread and your bias is showing hard.

Yes CP can be incredibly unlikeable. But there are a hell of a lot of teams and organizations that do respect him (New Orleans, OKC, Suns (you referencing Ayton's dislike is a joke)).

But pretty sure the universal backlash for the Clippers doing this and their recent and past history shouldn't giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They are in free fall.

Just because you dislike Paul doesn't make the Clipper actions right.

I really dislike Chris Paul, and this news finally got me on Cockpuncher's side.

I assumed it was at his request, but that seems not to be the case. Crazy.

[Memories]

But yeah if I'm Ballmer, in the offseason, I would immediately clean house.

- fire all the coaches
- fire the front office
- trade everybody for as many assets as humanly possible.

Red wedding this **** and start with a fresh clean slate. Get rid of all the toxicity surrounding the organization and go from there. It would be a huge step in the right direction.

[ryguy613]

Had drama on the clippers the 1st time around...

Nba on prime guys tease blake about his dislike for cp3 to this day

Had problems in houston

On the suns...



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So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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They didnt sign him to average 19 and 9 but they DID sign him to be a leader, and they literally knew exactly what kind of leader he was. What, you think Udonis Haslem was on the Heat's bench because he had a positive bpm? you think he was nice and cuddly with the rest of the team? no. he was there to keep players accountable because hes a vet. If CP3 hasnt earned a role like that on a team like this i dont know who is... again, ESPECIALLY having deep knowledge of who this guy was before ya signed him lol. ridiculous lack of accountability which is kinda the point CP3 was making

[madmaxmedia]

Getting him out of the lockerrom.

Dude is an all-time a**hole. I imagine there's a reason he got booted early.

This.

I've never been a CP fan, there's a reason he jumped around with teams so much. He had a Kobe level attitude without the Kobe level hardware or accolades to back it up.

Talented, sure, but he never did anything of significance in his career outside of put up good stats and berate teammates over missed assignments. If he hadn't calmed that down when he's in year 20 and barely NBA playable anymore... I would have booted him too, even if he was a fan favorite. By this age and this diminished of a skill level, you need to be pivoting to that mentorship nurturing role, not being a Grade A prick to the coaches and teammates because of missed assignments or schemes you don't agree with.

Paul was one of the dirties, floppiest and whiniest players in the NBA to go along with being a complete red ass in the lockerroom.

I could care less the Clippers waived him. He did it too himself, he could have gracefully went off into the sunset on the team he had the longest tenure with, but instead just was acting like he was still 2013 CP3. I'll never understand why people put him in so high regard as one of the Top 3 (for some people GOAT) PGs of all time.

Good riddance.

I just listened to the Lou Williams interview and it seems like it might not just be CP3 being a dick. Lou Will reported that CP3 had been critical of the team but that he went about it in a respectful way. He said the final straw was when CP3 went after the front office. Now who knows what that means. If CP3 was criticizing their signings (and by association criticizing/implying some of the current players are bad/washed) then CP3 probably deserves to go. But if the Lou Will reporting is correct (he seems to be plugged into the Clippers) it doesn’t seem like a case of Paul just being a dick if he was actually being respectful and putting forth constructive criticism.

Does that include his own signing? (I agree with your points though)

[theforumblue]

But yeah if I'm Ballmer, in the offseason, I would immediately clean house.

- fire all the coaches
- fire the front office
- trade everybody for as many assets as humanly possible.

Red wedding this **** and start with a fresh clean slate. Get rid of all the toxicity surrounding the organization and go from there. It would be a huge step in the right direction.

Root of it all is still gonna remain so nothing"s gonna change.

[canada_dry]

So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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Reading through this thread and your bias is showing hard.

Yes CP can be incredibly unlikeable. But there are a hell of a lot of teams and organizations that do respect him (New Orleans, OKC, Suns (you referencing Ayton's dislike is a joke)).

But pretty sure the universal backlash for the Clippers doing this and their recent and past history shouldn't giving them the benefit of the doubt.

They are in free fall.

Just because you dislike Paul doesn't make the Clipper actions right.

No no thats the thing. Im not giving EITHER side a pass. Clippers suck. I've been on the screw Lawrence frank train for a long time now. Idk how he still has a job.

General consensus in here is giving cp3 the pass and fully blaming the clippers and thats clearly not whats going on either. Thats what im fighting back on.

Both sides sides are losers here. No winners. No good guys. Both suck and its a bad look for them both. Not just the clippers. Not just chris paul.

Just in case you wanted my full take and why im pushing back on the "poor cp3" takes.

If you think thats bias then...so be it.

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[ryguy613]

cant even celebrate the Clippers demise because they're gifting OKC a lottery pick

I never understand this attitude from Laker fans. Your team has won all the titles and the little brother clippers haven't won anything. Why would you 'celebrate' them continuing to suck? It's not some heated rivalry, lol.

It's mostly Clippers fans being unapologetically arrogant (despite never winning anything) and the media that overhyped the Clippers to be better than the Lakers every year.

Not to mention the now infamous Clippers ad "streetlights over spotlights". Ballmer really tried to paint himself as a blue collar, hard working man.

this is it exactly. Ive been around for a long time. I literally never had an inkling of a problem with the Clippers until recently. Doc Rivers raised an eyebrow from me with multiple passive aggressive shots fired to the Lakers but I still didnt really have an issue. Then Ballmer got there and there was an aggressive astroturf campaign about how the Lakers were for the elite and the Clippers were for the hard working every man, which is ironic since Ballmer is the richest owner in sports. Anyways, that started the whole debacle. You had Kawhi's "this is his city" ad campaign. there was a concerted effort to make the Kawhi PG Clippers rivals of the LeBron AD Lakers and while I dont think of it as a rivalry at all there is a legitimate amount of animosity built up between the fan bases.

[canada_dry]

So the clippers FO knew that when they signed him lol.

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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They didnt sign him to average 19 and 9 but they DID sign him to be a leader, and they literally knew exactly what kind of leader he was. What, you think Udonis Haslem was on the Heat's bench because he had a positive bpm? you think he was nice and cuddly with the rest of the team? no. he was there to keep players accountable because hes a vet. If CP3 hasnt earned a role like that on a team like this i dont know who is... again, ESPECIALLY having deep knowledge of who this guy was before ya signed him lol. ridiculous lack of accountability which is kinda the point CP3 was making

They didn't expect him to be as big a dick as he was in chis's prime because hes not that guy anymore is my point. When you're not good you're not worth the headache. When you're that good they'll tolerate it. Thats just how it goes.

The haslem comp is so off because he isnt that level of **** we know cp3 to be. Hes a true lockerroom guy that was able to stick in ONE lockerroom without burning it down. He was an extension of riley and spo in the lockerroom and he earned that. Can we say the same about cp3? Hes burnt down multiple lockerrooms. You say hes earned it too but clearly not eh? He doesn't know how to come off as any other way than dickish. Haslem maintains relationships organizationally and cp3 burns em. Haslem been with one team forever. Cp3 been on all 30 teams it feels like. Not comparable.

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[Bornstellar]

CP3 is pretty washed but man they did him dirty. They cut their franchise legend in his final season because he had the audacity to actually care about winning and tried to hold people accountable? Absolutely shameful tbh. They knew who CP3 was before signing him - the entire league does, he's been around for two friggin decades. The optics look very bad. That organization is a complete dumpster fire and they're about to land Dybansta for the Thunder. What a disgrace

[Doranku]

Everybody hates Chris.

I'm happy to see him getting the retirement tour he deserves, personally.

Funny seeing people trying to paint him as the good guy for holding teammates/coaches accountable. I'm sorry but you don't get to be the voice making those complaints when you're one of the worst players in the league. Is he advocating for himself to be cut from the rotation? He should've shut that yap and found ways to be effective in his 14 mpg instead of pointing the finger at everyone else.

[Woodsanity]

Of course they did.

Did they think he would walk around the clippers organization like it was 2013 and he was still averaging 19 and 9?

I mean when you're good you can be a headache. When you're garbage -5 bpm? You're not worth that headache anymore. Bye.

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They didnt sign him to average 19 and 9 but they DID sign him to be a leader, and they literally knew exactly what kind of leader he was. What, you think Udonis Haslem was on the Heat's bench because he had a positive bpm? you think he was nice and cuddly with the rest of the team? no. he was there to keep players accountable because hes a vet. If CP3 hasnt earned a role like that on a team like this i dont know who is... again, ESPECIALLY having deep knowledge of who this guy was before ya signed him lol. ridiculous lack of accountability which is kinda the point CP3 was making

They didn't expect him to be as big a dick as he was in chis's prime because hes not that guy anymore is my point. When you're not good you're not worth the headache. When you're that good they'll tolerate it. Thats just how it goes.

The haslem comp is so off because he isnt that level of **** we know cp3 to be. Hes a true lockerroom guy that was able to stick in ONE lockerroom without burning it down. He was an extension of riley and spo in the lockerroom and he earned that. Can we say the same about cp3? Hes burnt down multiple lockerrooms. You say hes earned it too but clearly not eh? He doesn't know how to come off as any other way than dickish. Haslem maintains relationships organizationally and cp3 burns em. Haslem been with one team forever. Cp3 been on all 30 teams it feels like. Not comparable.

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CP3 did a lot more good for the teams he has been on then bad. Of course he sucks at this point but treating him like this is a horrible look for one of

the worst franchises in the league. Especially since CP3 gave the Clippers the teeny bit of relevance they ever had.

Clippers already had the Donald Sterling fiasco and then the aspiration fiasco. They really don't need to be adding more drama. From top to bottom one of the least professional franchises in the league.