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OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming?

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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#41 » by Edumacated » Wed Dec 3, 2025 9:57 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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I also think Miami will be his 2nd choice after NY. IIRC, Herro is from Milwaukee.


Keep in mind, the Bucks don't control their own draft picks, so no incentive to tank for the next few seasons. Does a package of Herro and Ware offer enough return, and short term success to warrant the deal?

At least with the Knicks front court, plus maybe McBride, the Bucks would be strong enough to compete for a play-in position.


Lots of moving parts to any deal, because I would think their first option is to get back control of at least some of their picks from any Giannis deal which means using assets they get back to do it. Trading Giannis to retool for a play-in makes little sense to me, you probably need to blow it up.


If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#42 » by TakeYourHeart » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:00 pm

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PushDaRock wrote:
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Keep in mind, the Bucks don't control their own draft picks, so no incentive to tank for the next few seasons. Does a package of Herro and Ware offer enough return, and short term success to warrant the deal?

At least with the Knicks front court, plus maybe McBride, the Bucks would be strong enough to compete for a play-in position.


Lots of moving parts to any deal, because I would think their first option is to get back control of at least some of their picks from any Giannis deal which means using assets they get back to do it. Trading Giannis to retool for a play-in makes little sense to me, you probably need to blow it up.


If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.

...because you're getting Giannis
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#43 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:00 pm

Mark_83 wrote:We don't have the assets to get Giannis. But Turner would be a great fit when he's able to be traded.


The only teams with enough assets to get him are bottom dwellers or the defending champions.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#44 » by ArthurVandelay » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:02 pm

San Antonio could get it done. They have 3 starting PGs, Carter Bryant, easy matching salary and picks.

If Knicks is what he wants, unlikely to be a 2 team trade.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#45 » by anotherhomer » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:04 pm

It'll prolly be some combination of:
Giannis + Turner + Filler for OG + Towns plus 3 FRP Swaps
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#46 » by Edumacated » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:04 pm

TakeYourHeart wrote:
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Lots of moving parts to any deal, because I would think their first option is to get back control of at least some of their picks from any Giannis deal which means using assets they get back to do it. Trading Giannis to retool for a play-in makes little sense to me, you probably need to blow it up.


If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.

...because you're getting Giannis


Atlanta, New Orleans, and Portland own the Bucks' picks from '26 to '30. I don't think those teams are getting Giannis.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#47 » by anotherhomer » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:05 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:San Antonio could get it done. They have 3 starting PGs, Carter Bryant, easy matching salary and picks.

If Knicks is what he wants, unlikely to be a 2 team trade.


In theory, Spurs have many ways to get it done:

1) Offer DeAaron Fox plus bunch of picks
2) Offer Dylan Harper plus picks and fillers
3) Offer Stephon Castle plus picks and fillers

Fillers = Vassel, Kelda Johnson, Sochan...all those guys are really good
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#48 » by PushDaRock » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:06 pm

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PushDaRock wrote:
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Keep in mind, the Bucks don't control their own draft picks, so no incentive to tank for the next few seasons. Does a package of Herro and Ware offer enough return, and short term success to warrant the deal?

At least with the Knicks front court, plus maybe McBride, the Bucks would be strong enough to compete for a play-in position.


Lots of moving parts to any deal, because I would think their first option is to get back control of at least some of their picks from any Giannis deal which means using assets they get back to do it. Trading Giannis to retool for a play-in makes little sense to me, you probably need to blow it up.


If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.


Same reason Houston traded Brooklyn back their picks despite knowing they would be tanking, they think they get something more out of it.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#49 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:08 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Maybe a wild take, but I'd rather trade Ingram over IQ.

Not really wild at all.

Problem is, Barnes/Giannis just doesn't work. Giannis isn't a good screener so his ability to be a good 5 is somewhat limited, and Barnes/Giannis is not a good fir at the 3/4. So if they are your 3/4, you need as much 1/2 shooting as possible. IQ is a good fit for that (but Ingram is also a good fit as the iso scorer)

The "best" deal for us would be a Barrett/Poeltl/Agbaji package. Now, why would MIL even consider that.

Realistically, I think you are including Barnes if you get Giannis. Only way I see MIL even listening to an offer is if Scottie is involved.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#50 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:12 pm

If Giannis is hand picking his team hes going to New York.....Already rumored that if he was going to be traded in the offseason it would have been to the Knicks cause thats where he wanted to go...

We will see what the Knicks have to package up to get him but that instantly makes them the favs in the East.

They will pair Giannis with Brunson, And end up keeping one of OG/Bridges in the deal....We will see how this plays out.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#51 » by JB7 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:12 pm

anotherhomer wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:San Antonio could get it done. They have 3 starting PGs, Carter Bryant, easy matching salary and picks.

If Knicks is what he wants, unlikely to be a 2 team trade.


In theory, Spurs have many ways to get it done:

1) Offer DeAaron Fox plus bunch of picks
2) Offer Dylan Harper plus picks and fillers
3) Offer Stephon Castle plus picks and fillers

Fillers = Vassel, Kelda Johnson, Sochan...all those guys are really good


Does Giannis want to go to the West though, and would the Giannis/Wemby pairing just limit Giannis' play?

In NY, Giannis and Brunson could dominate the East, while playing in the Mecca.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#52 » by Brinbe » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:17 pm

Yeah, this is pretty clear. The market, the legacy, etc. Giannis will def be a Knick.

Silver is probably super thrilled right now.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#53 » by mihaic » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:17 pm

Giannis for Scottie, filler, picks. Do you do it. The Bucks might.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#54 » by Raps in 4 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:20 pm

Clutch0z24 wrote:If Giannis is hand picking his team hes going to New York.....Already rumored that if he was going to be traded in the offseason it would have been to the Knicks cause thats where he wanted to go...

We will see what the Knicks have to package up to get him but that instantly makes them the favs in the East.

They will pair Giannis with Brunson, And end up keeping one of OG/Bridges in the deal....We will see how this plays out.


The Knicks don't have to give up anything of value if that's where he wants to go. It's not like they can even make an enticing package as they're all out of assets after trading for Bridges.

If the Bucks are willing to trade him to wherever he wants to go, and if that's the Knicks, then he's being traded for scraps.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#55 » by Edumacated » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:22 pm

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Lots of moving parts to any deal, because I would think their first option is to get back control of at least some of their picks from any Giannis deal which means using assets they get back to do it. Trading Giannis to retool for a play-in makes little sense to me, you probably need to blow it up.


If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.


Same reason Houston traded Brooklyn back their picks despite knowing they would be tanking, they think they get something more out of it.


Doesn't seem like a likely scenario to me. They'd have to over pay two teams to get back their '26 and '27 picks using the assets they get back in a Giannis trade since they have no assets at the moment.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#56 » by Clutch0z24 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:26 pm

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Clutch0z24 wrote:If Giannis is hand picking his team hes going to New York.....Already rumored that if he was going to be traded in the offseason it would have been to the Knicks cause thats where he wanted to go...

We will see what the Knicks have to package up to get him but that instantly makes them the favs in the East.

They will pair Giannis with Brunson, And end up keeping one of OG/Bridges in the deal....We will see how this plays out.


The Knicks don't have to give up anything of value if that's where he wants to go. It's not like they can even make an enticing package as they're all out of assets after trading for Bridges.

If the Bucks are willing to trade him to wherever he wants to go, and if that's the Knicks, then he's being traded for scraps.


Well they have to make salaries match its prolly going to be Giannis + Turner for KAT + One of OG or Mikal and their 2026 pick + 2nd rounders if i had to guess.

Brunson
Hart
OG or Mikal
Giannis
Turner

Pretty solid lineup.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#57 » by PushDaRock » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:27 pm

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If I owned the Bucks pick(s), why would I trade it back to them knowing that they will be terrible without Giannis.


Same reason Houston traded Brooklyn back their picks despite knowing they would be tanking, they think they get something more out of it.


Doesn't seem like a likely scenario to me. They'd have to over pay two teams to get back their '26 and '27 picks using the assets they get back in a Giannis trade since they have no assets at the moment.


What's the alternative? Trade Giannis and gun for the play-in?

Overpaying still gets you some of your picks back.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#58 » by artsncrafts » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:30 pm

navyblue wrote:[Windhorst] The Milwaukee Bucks are NOT expected to open up a Giannis Antetokounmpo sweepstakes to the entire league. Antetokounmpo will get to pick a team and Milwaukee will try their best to get a trade done with his preferred team.


This is a bit silly from a team standpoint. Like you can TRY to make it the best offer but you are significantly hurting your future probably if you only will trade to 1 team that will most likely have some of the worst assets. This is like Nico only trading Luka to Lakers because....reasons.
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Re: OT: Giannis / Bucks Trade Coming? 

Post#59 » by Dennis 37 » Wed Dec 3, 2025 10:32 pm

RapsFanInOhio wrote:Saying we don’t have the assets for a Giannis trade is silly. Scottie would be the starting point and whatever you package with him is one of the best realistic packages in the league.


Not trading young for old. You want Giannis with Scottie.
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