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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#981 » by JustBuzzin » Yesterday 2:00 am

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yosemiteben wrote:MIL is trading a top 5 player in the league. They aren't going to do it and accept a subpar offer so we can get KAT. That is awful value.

That's fair, but to think they will get a crazy offer for Giannis is crazy.

Giannis controls his destiny and whatever team he joins he knows whatever Milwaukee gets back is going to hurt his future team.

Milwaukee is not going to get a crazy offer for Giannis. I repeat Milwaukee is not going to get a crazy offer for Giannis.

Why wouldn't they just take KAT in this hypothetical?

Building around Kat and Turner sounds like a disaster. KAT is like 30.
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Post#982 » by yosemiteben » Yesterday 2:01 am

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yosemiteben wrote:I guarantee you they're getting more than bit role players and 2 picks.

Did you make this comment before or after the Giannis injury?

Before, but it doesn't matter.
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Post#983 » by JustBuzzin » Yesterday 2:14 am

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yosemiteben wrote:I guarantee you they're getting more than bit role players and 2 picks.

Did you make this comment before or after the Giannis injury?

Before, but it doesn't matter.

We will see I guess.

I just dont understand how you think Milwaukee holds any leverage in this situation. Giannis will pick the team and they have to make the most of whatever that team has to offer.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#984 » by yosemiteben » Yesterday 2:20 am

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JustBuzzin wrote:Did you make this comment before or after the Giannis injury?

Before, but it doesn't matter.

We will see I guess.

I just dont understand how you think Milwaukee holds any leverage in this situation. Giannis will pick the team and they have to make the most of whatever that team has to offer.

You seem to be missing the point, which is that you have them accepting a low value package from us so we get KAT. KAT is more valuable than the package you are sending. Why would MIL prefer ours? What leverage do we have? That's the part you seen to be missing, you have us sucking value out of the deal and then defend it by saying MIL has no leverage.

If NY is moving KAT in a deal and the return is going to MIL for moving their MVP caliber player, other teams are going to make better offers than that.
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Post#985 » by JustBuzzin » Yesterday 2:22 am

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yosemiteben wrote:Before, but it doesn't matter.

We will see I guess.

I just dont understand how you think Milwaukee holds any leverage in this situation. Giannis will pick the team and they have to make the most of whatever that team has to offer.

You seem to be missing the point, which is that you have them accepting a low value package from us so we get KAT. KAT is more valuable than the package you are sending. Why would MIL prefer ours? What leverage do we have? That's the part you seen to be missing, you have us sucking value out of the deal and then defend it by saying MIL has no leverage.

If NY is moving KAT in a deal and the return is going to MIL for moving their MVP caliber player, other teams are going to make better offers than that.

You seem to be missing the point I never said it was a realistic offer. That's just a offer I threw out there. Not sure we would even be interested in KAT considering we look like we are tanking again.
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Post#986 » by yosemiteben » Yesterday 2:55 am

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JustBuzzin wrote:We will see I guess.

I just dont understand how you think Milwaukee holds any leverage in this situation. Giannis will pick the team and they have to make the most of whatever that team has to offer.

You seem to be missing the point, which is that you have them accepting a low value package from us so we get KAT. KAT is more valuable than the package you are sending. Why would MIL prefer ours? What leverage do we have? That's the part you seen to be missing, you have us sucking value out of the deal and then defend it by saying MIL has no leverage.

If NY is moving KAT in a deal and the return is going to MIL for moving their MVP caliber player, other teams are going to make better offers than that.

You seem to be missing the point I never said it was a realistic offer. That's just a offer I threw out there. Not sure we would even be interested in KAT considering we look like we are tanking again.

If you never thought it was a realistic offer, why did you keep defending it by saying MIL has no leverage?
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Post#987 » by JustBuzzin » Yesterday 3:04 am

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yosemiteben wrote:You seem to be missing the point, which is that you have them accepting a low value package from us so we get KAT. KAT is more valuable than the package you are sending. Why would MIL prefer ours? What leverage do we have? That's the part you seen to be missing, you have us sucking value out of the deal and then defend it by saying MIL has no leverage.

If NY is moving KAT in a deal and the return is going to MIL for moving their MVP caliber player, other teams are going to make better offers than that.

You seem to be missing the point I never said it was a realistic offer. That's just a offer I threw out there. Not sure we would even be interested in KAT considering we look like we are tanking again.

If you never thought it was a realistic offer, why did you keep defending it by saying MIL has no leverage?
Because im separating the two lol

The fact is Milwaukee has no leverage so don't expect great offers.

I was just using KAT as an example as that was one of the rumored destinations Giannis wanted to play for.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#988 » by JustBuzzin » Yesterday 3:05 am

Yosemiteben and I are best friends. This is what we normally do. :D
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Post#989 » by luciano-davidwesley » Yesterday 3:54 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Giannis wants out. Bout time. Bucks about to be absolutely horrible.

Oh boy are they about to regret the Dame stretch and waive over five years.

No picks and a huge chunk of dead cap for the next 5 years.

If they don't get an absolute Kings ransom for Giannis the are so f***ed for the next decade.
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Post#990 » by luciano-davidwesley » Yesterday 4:02 am

Also every time a superstar demands a trade everyone says they'll get reamed because they have no leverage.

But 9 times out of 10 they get a bounty of picks and swaps plus a decent prospect amongst the salary filler.

The only exception to this is De'Aaron Fox because Kangs. Plus Fox isn't fit to shine Giannis's boots.
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Post#991 » by wilson115 » Yesterday 10:18 am

Aaron's brother on a tear. Undrafted gem for Dallas.

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Post#992 » by yosemiteben » Today 1:29 pm

What an insane ending last night

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Post#993 » by JMAC3 » Today 3:16 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Giannis wants out. Bout time. Bucks about to be absolutely horrible.

Oh boy are they about to regret the Dame stretch and waive over five years.

No picks and a huge chunk of dead cap for the next 5 years.

If they don't get an absolute Kings ransom for Giannis the are so f***ed for the next decade.


They are going to be so bad, leaning into the rebuild so hard I doubt that 20 million per year really affects them a ton.
I think they would have felt it more if they continued to try and win with Giannis.

All in all I don't think it was that bad a move. They weren't getting positive value for Dame on that terrible contract and would have likely had to pay assets just to dump him if that was their goal which would be the case now if they were looking to trade Giannis and rebuild.
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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#994 » by fatlever » Today 4:08 pm

If you guys had to rank your top five most likely destinations for Giannis who are you going with?

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Re: Around the NBA 13 

Post#995 » by fatlever » Today 4:10 pm

Knicks
Spurs
Lakers
Thunder

Magic as my wildcard

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Post#996 » by JustBuzzin » Today 4:15 pm

Knicks seem like his preferred spot, but unless they can flip KAT to a 3rd team for assets I just don't see why Milwaukee would want a 30yr old KAT with no picks for a rebuild.

1. Miami seems like a move Pat Riley could pull off. Location also helps.

2. Houston they have the assets and young players to make a serious bid.

3. Knicks again why would Milwaukee want KAT? For that reason they are 3rd.

I dont think their will be a lot of teams in the mix. 1-3 teams will be in the mix and Milwaukee will take the best offer.
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Post#997 » by Braggins » Today 4:18 pm

yosemiteben wrote:What an insane ending last night

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VJ is usually impressive even in games he doesn't score much. He just affects the game in every aspect and racks up stats all over the place.
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Post#998 » by JMAC3 » Today 5:19 pm

fatlever wrote:If you guys had to rank your top five most likely destinations for Giannis who are you going with?

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1. Houston
2. Atlanta
3. Detroit
4. Knicks
5. Spurs
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Post#999 » by fatlever » Today 5:45 pm

I forgot Houston


A Giannis Durant finals run would be interesting


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Post#1000 » by fatlever » Today 5:48 pm

Atlanta... interesting. Not sure Giannis is buying that location. I'm guessing a deal would be Trea Young, ZR, and maybe that Pelicans pick?

Jalen Johnson and Giannis frontcourt pairing would be awesome.

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