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Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2

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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1741 » by hugepatsfan » Yesterday 5:07 am

playa-hater wrote:Sorry but these ideas are killing me. Boston giving up 2 first rd picks to pay for a center who makes 18 million. Instead we could have Drafted Kalk with only 1 2nd rd pick and paid him two million to be Queta's backup.

Queta at this time keeps staying underrated on here despite out playing most of the centers so far. Including the player, we want to give up so many valuable assets for. Smh.


Ok we could have drafted Kalk… we didn’t though. I don’t understand the relevancy. And are you trying to imply $19M is a lot? That’s pretty damn solid contract number for Zubac. He was in a situation like Dwhite where his max extension was below market but it was close enough that it was worth it to lock in the security. So if they do trade him, he carries the benefit of a below fair market value deal.

Queta is having a great year and has emerged as a key piece. He’s not outplaying Zubac though. That’s nonsense. No one is disrespecting him. He’s playing 24 minutes and if we added a high end center like Zubac that probably Lu gets cut to 18-20, but that’s hardly dismissing or diminishing him. If we had him and Zubac that’s 48 minutes of great center play.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1742 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 5:19 am

Brad has a number of options now, a lot more when Dec. 15 arrives.

I just don't know if the Clips will part with Zubac.
It will be hard to trade a quality player, like Zubac, for draft picks when you have an aging Harden and a fragile Kawhi.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1743 » by Parliament10 » Yesterday 5:49 am

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playa-hater wrote:Sorry but these ideas are killing me. Boston giving up 2 first rd picks to pay for a center who makes 18 million. Instead we could have Drafted Kalk with only 1 2nd rd pick and paid him two million to be Queta's backup.

Queta at this time keeps staying underrated on here despite out playing most of the centers so far. Including the player, we want to give up so many valuable assets for. Smh.


Ok we could have drafted Kalk… we didn’t though. I don’t understand the relevancy. And are you trying to imply $19M is a lot? That’s pretty damn solid contract number for Zubac. He was in a situation like Dwhite where his max extension was below market but it was close enough that it was worth it to lock in the security. So if they do trade him, he carries the benefit of a below fair market value deal.

Queta is having a great year and has emerged as a key piece. He’s not outplaying Zubac though. That’s nonsense. No one is disrespecting him. He’s playing 24 minutes and if we added a high end center like Zubac that probably Lu gets cut to 18-20, but that’s hardly dismissing or diminishing him. If we had him and Zubac that’s 48 minutes of great center play.

I wrote this in another Thread,:

We got 4 x 2nds for that Pick (Kalk). = 2 in 2025, 1 in 2026 & 1 in 2027.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1744 » by Parliament10 » Yesterday 5:52 am

Fierce1 wrote:Brad has a number of options now, a lot more when Dec. 15 arrives.

I just don't know if the Clips will part with Zubac.
It will be hard to trade a quality player, like Zubac, for draft picks when you have an aging Harden and a fragile Kawhi.

Aren't the Clippers the ones who put it out there? They want 2 x 1sts.
Sounds like they are testing the waters, at least.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1745 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 6:07 am

Parliament10 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:Brad has a number of options now, a lot more when Dec. 15 arrives.

I just don't know if the Clips will part with Zubac.
It will be hard to trade a quality player, like Zubac, for draft picks when you have an aging Harden and a fragile Kawhi.

Aren't the Clippers the ones who put it out there? They want 2 x 1sts.
Sounds like they are testing the waters, at least.

Not really sure if it's true the Clips were the ones who put it out there.

But the 2 1st round picks are not an issue for me.
As long as the Clips don't ask for Hugo, Walsh, and Mynot, I'm fine with Simons and 2 1st round picks for Zubac.

Watching a few Clipper games, they indeed need another quality guard.
Kris Dunn is just not good enough to be a starter.

It can also be a multi-team trade where the Clips end up getting another Center to replace Zubac.

Hopefully Brad can make a move in December because JB's usage is very high right now.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1746 » by doogie_hauser » Yesterday 6:28 am

Vucevic from The Bulls could be on the market soon (esp if Chicago keep losing.

Wouldn't want to give up too much for him mind you, but just spitballing here.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1747 » by Shak_Celts » Yesterday 6:31 am

doogie_hauser wrote:Vucevic from The Bulls could be on the market soon (esp if Chicago keep losing.

Wouldn't want to give up too much for him mind you, but just spitballing here.

I like our players, what will we be giving up?
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1748 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 6:37 am

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doogie_hauser wrote:Vucevic from The Bulls could be on the market soon (esp if Chicago keep losing.

Wouldn't want to give up too much for him mind you, but just spitballing here.

I like our players, what will we be giving up?

Since last summer, Vuc has always been one of my targets.

I initially wanted Vuc and Coby White for Simons and Hauser.

But if Coby White is part of their future plans, I would settle for Vuc for Simons and a 2nd round pick.

Vuc has playoff experience and he has an expiring contract.

If it doesn't work out then the Cs are not stuck with him because his contract expires at the end of the season.

The Cs can use the 22m TPE on Vucevic then the Cs end up with a 27.6m TPE from Simons' contract.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1749 » by doogie_hauser » Yesterday 6:46 am

Fierce1 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:Vucevic from The Bulls could be on the market soon (esp if Chicago keep losing.

Wouldn't want to give up too much for him mind you, but just spitballing here.

I like our players, what will we be giving up?

Since last summer, Vuc has always been one of my targets.

I initially wanted Vuc and Coby White for Simons and Hauser.

But if Coby White is part of their future plans, I would settle for Vuc for Simons and a 2nd round pick.

Vuc has playoff experience and he has an expiring contract.

If it doesn't work out then the Cs are not stuck with him because his contract expires at the end of the season.

The Cs can use the 22m TPE on Vucevic then the Cs end up with a 27.6m TPE from Simons' contract.


Coby White is bit of a traffic cone on defence, don't think Brad and Joe would be keen on bringing him on board tbh. We got a truckload of draft picks to play with, which may interest The Bulls, esp if they are keen on blowing it up, which they really should.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1750 » by chrisab123 » Yesterday 12:21 pm

I mean you could trade White Simmons and Hauser plus a ton of picks for Giannis and see what happens. The money works.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1751 » by Curmudgeon » Yesterday 1:14 pm

I don't see Zubac as such a wonderful acquisition. Is he that much better than Nurcic? or Goga Bitadze? Zubac is not fleet afoot, doesn't guard the perimeter and doesn't shoot the three.

My dream scenario is that the Celtics unload Simons and his contract to facilitate a Giannis trade to a third team.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1752 » by Larry_Russell » Yesterday 1:33 pm

Curmudgeon wrote:I don't see Zubac as such a wonderful acquisition. Is he that much better than Nurcic? or Goga Bitadze? Zubac is not fleet afoot, doesn't guard the perimeter and doesn't shoot the three.

My dream scenario is that the Celtics unload Simons and his contract to facilitate a Giannis trade to a third team.



...While picking up some savings and ideally a center waiting to break out.



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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1753 » by Larry_Russell » Yesterday 1:36 pm

When does the trade Tatum talk start?
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1754 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 1:52 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:I don't see Zubac as such a wonderful acquisition. Is he that much better than Nurcic? or Goga Bitadze? Zubac is not fleet afoot, doesn't guard the perimeter and doesn't shoot the three.

My dream scenario is that the Celtics unload Simons and his contract to facilitate a Giannis trade to a third team.



...While picking up some savings and ideally a center waiting to break out.



Can Beef Stew be got?

Did you see what he did that got him ejected in his last game against the Bucks?

Brad and the Celtics don't want players with character issues.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1755 » by Larry_Russell » Yesterday 1:54 pm

Actually, with Milwaukee getting scared right now...could they take on Simmons?

Simmons gives them some needed scoring, and is an expiring if Giannis demands out.


I do NOT want Kuzma though, at all...


Could something like:

Simons to Bucks

Kuzma, Scheierman and a 2nd from Bucks, 2026 First (protected 1-10 from Boston), 2028 protected 1st from Boston and a 2027 second from Boston to Pelicans

Murphy 3 to Boston?



Is that enough for Trey?

Celtics would look like this once Tatum is back:

White/Pritchard
Brown/Hugo
Murphy/Hauser
Tatum/Minott
???/Queta

Team saves 5.2 million and still has their 22 million TPE to add a center in the offseason. (maybe use MLE on Kristaps?)
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1756 » by Fierce1 » Yesterday 2:10 pm

Trey Murphy is a luxury.

Celtics are set from the 2 spot to the 4 spot.

The priority is a Center then another ball handler.

Walsh is needed to defend the opposing team's best player.

So right now the only weak spot is the Center spot.
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1757 » by bfchs123 » Yesterday 2:26 pm

It doesn't seem like the Celtics value the center spot unless they can shoot and / or guard other spots. I like Zubac but he's just a better version of Queta

I'm still all in on Myles Turner if the Bucks blow it up. PP/White/JB/Tatum/Turner would be elite and a championship contender
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1758 » by chrisab123 » Yesterday 2:38 pm

bfchs123 wrote:It doesn't seem like the Celtics value the center spot unless they can shoot and / or guard other spots. I like Zubac but he's just a better version of Queta

I'm still all in on Myles Turner if the Bucks blow it up. PP/White/JB/Tatum/Turner would be elite and a championship contender


Turner seems like a terrible fit in Milwaukee. This would be a way to get out of that contract and get Simons and Hauser to help out Giannis. But that’s just me
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1759 » by Hal14 » Yesterday 2:53 pm

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hugepatsfan wrote:
playa-hater wrote:Sorry but these ideas are killing me. Boston giving up 2 first rd picks to pay for a center who makes 18 million. Instead we could have Drafted Kalk with only 1 2nd rd pick and paid him two million to be Queta's backup.

Queta at this time keeps staying underrated on here despite out playing most of the centers so far. Including the player, we want to give up so many valuable assets for. Smh.


Ok we could have drafted Kalk… we didn’t though. I don’t understand the relevancy. And are you trying to imply $19M is a lot? That’s pretty damn solid contract number for Zubac. He was in a situation like Dwhite where his max extension was below market but it was close enough that it was worth it to lock in the security. So if they do trade him, he carries the benefit of a below fair market value deal.

Queta is having a great year and has emerged as a key piece. He’s not outplaying Zubac though. That’s nonsense. No one is disrespecting him. He’s playing 24 minutes and if we added a high end center like Zubac that probably Lu gets cut to 18-20, but that’s hardly dismissing or diminishing him. If we had him and Zubac that’s 48 minutes of great center play.

I wrote this in another Thread,:

We got 4 x 2nds for that Pick (Kalk). = 2 in 2025, 1 in 2026 & 1 in 2027.
If 2 of them do well, then it's a Win.

Not only that, but Kalkbrenner wasn't even the 32nd pick! lol

It was Noah Penda.

Boston didn't even bring in Kalkbrenner for a workout..
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Re: Free Agent/Trade/Waiver Thread, 2025-26, part 2 

Post#1760 » by Celts17Pride » Yesterday 3:11 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:When does the trade Tatum talk start?

Never

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