So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right?

[G R E Y]

PSA: Dylan Harper is not on the trading table.

[Mamba Mentality]

Bucks have won a title more recently than the Lakers but okay

and they shortly tore it all apart and have been mediocre ever since...

As have the Lakers. So why would Luka prefer the Lakers if the bigger market doesn't matter? You can't even get out of the 1st round with LeBron/Luka

Even with the help of Nico's goofy ass you couldn't put together a 2nd round team. Sounds like if the Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes then the Lakers have too

I mean I don't know how you can look at the 2022 Lakers roster and think "this organization knows what it takes to win". 90% of that roster was out of the league the next year

Luka would prefer the Lakers because it's one of the winningest and globally recognized franchises in professional sports. And I'm not even factoring in the lifestyle bump and business opportunities which is a whole other debate... Seriously, why the hell would one of the most popular basketball stars of this generation chose to hitch his wagon to a small market that can't attract any stars. Who is the best player that they've signed the last five years? Myles Turner?

Bucks lucked into Giannis and won a championship; I applaud them for that because that's no small feat but prior to his arrival this franchise was in dire straits for nearly two decades.

I will admit that the Lakers haven't had the had the greatest track record either since the bubble but I'm a firm believer that a lot of that has to do with guys being sick of playing in LeBron's shadow. I expect a lot more roster cohesiveness once he's out of the picture. End of the day, everyone here knows the lure of the Lakers, we might be down but it's never for long, every basketball fan knows this as does Luka. Heck, the last I checked the Lakers were the odds on favorites to land Giannis which should say something...

[ConSarnit]

and they shortly tore it all apart and have been mediocre ever since...

As have the Lakers. So why would Luka prefer the Lakers if the bigger market doesn't matter? You can't even get out of the 1st round with LeBron/Luka

Even with the help of Nico's goofy ass you couldn't put together a 2nd round team. Sounds like if the Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes then the Lakers have too

I mean I don't know how you can look at the 2022 Lakers roster and think "this organization knows what it takes to win". 90% of that roster was out of the league the next year

Luka would prefer the Lakers because it's one of the winningest and globally recognized franchises in professional sports. And I'm not even factoring in the lifestyle bump and business opportunities which is a whole other debate... Seriously, why the hell would one of the most popular basketball stars of this generation chose to hitch his wagon to a small market that can't attract any stars. Who is the best player that they've signed the last five years? Myles Turner?

Bucks lucked into Giannis and won a championship; I applaud them for that because that's no small feat but prior to his arrival this franchise was in dire straits for nearly two decades.

I will admit that the Lakers haven't had the had the greatest track record either since the bubble but I'm a firm believer that a lot of that has to do with guys being sick of playing in LeBron's shadow. I expect a lot more roster cohesiveness once he's out of the picture. End of the day, everyone here knows the lure of the Lakers, we might be down but it's never for long, every basketball fan knows this as does Luka. Heck, the last I checked the Lakers were the odds on favorites to land Giannis which should say something...

No GM with half a brain is going to trade Giannis to the Lakers.

The Lakers don’t have the assets to acquire Giannis. If the Bucks trade Giannis to the Lakers for a lackluster return how is that any different from Nico trading Luka? How did that work out for Nico?

No GM is trading their star to the Lakers in the next couple of years. The Lakers lack of assets means the return will be poor and no one wants to be the next Nico (a hated pariah who will never work in the NBA again).

Do you think Jon Horst wants to hear “fire Horst!” chants in Fiserv?

[Mamba Mentality]

As have the Lakers. So why would Luka prefer the Lakers if the bigger market doesn't matter? You can't even get out of the 1st round with LeBron/Luka

Even with the help of Nico's goofy ass you couldn't put together a 2nd round team. Sounds like if the Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes then the Lakers have too

I mean I don't know how you can look at the 2022 Lakers roster and think "this organization knows what it takes to win". 90% of that roster was out of the league the next year

Luka would prefer the Lakers because it's one of the winningest and globally recognized franchises in professional sports. And I'm not even factoring in the lifestyle bump and business opportunities which is a whole other debate... Seriously, why the hell would one of the most popular basketball stars of this generation chose to hitch his wagon to a small market that can't attract any stars. Who is the best player that they've signed the last five years? Myles Turner?

Bucks lucked into Giannis and won a championship; I applaud them for that because that's no small feat but prior to his arrival this franchise was in dire straits for nearly two decades.

I will admit that the Lakers haven't had the had the greatest track record either since the bubble but I'm a firm believer that a lot of that has to do with guys being sick of playing in LeBron's shadow. I expect a lot more roster cohesiveness once he's out of the picture. End of the day, everyone here knows the lure of the Lakers, we might be down but it's never for long, every basketball fan knows this as does Luka. Heck, the last I checked the Lakers were the odds on favorites to land Giannis which should say something...

No GM with half a brain is going to trade Giannis to the Lakers.

The Lakers don’t have the assets to acquire Giannis. If the Bucks trade Giannis to the Lakers for a lackluster return how is that any different from Nico trading Luka? How did that work out for Nico?

No GM is trading their star to the Lakers in the next couple of years. The Lakers lack of assets means the return will be poor and no one wants to be the next Nico (a hated pariah who will never work in the NBA again).

Do you think Jon Horst wants to hear “fire Horst!” chants in Fiserv?

Wasn't there a report that came out yesterday that suggested that the Bucks would trade him to a team or his choosing? Plus he's damaged goods right now. Sounds to me like the stars all aligning.

[Bornstellar]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

[druggas]

As have the Lakers. So why would Luka prefer the Lakers if the bigger market doesn't matter? You can't even get out of the 1st round with LeBron/Luka

Even with the help of Nico's goofy ass you couldn't put together a 2nd round team. Sounds like if the Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes then the Lakers have too

I mean I don't know how you can look at the 2022 Lakers roster and think "this organization knows what it takes to win". 90% of that roster was out of the league the next year :lol:

Luka would prefer the Lakers because it's one of the winningest and globally recognized franchises in professional sports. And I'm not even factoring in the lifestyle bump and business opportunities which is a whole other debate... Seriously, why the hell would one of the most popular basketball stars of this generation chose to hitch his wagon to a small market that can't attract any stars. Who is the best player that they've signed the last five years? Myles Turner?

Bucks lucked into Giannis and won a championship; I applaud them for that because that's no small feat but prior to his arrival this franchise was in dire straits for nearly two decades.

I will admit that the Lakers haven't had the had the greatest track record either since the bubble but I'm a firm believer that a lot of that has to do with guys being sick of playing in LeBron's shadow. I expect a lot more roster cohesiveness once he's out of the picture. End of the day, everyone here knows the lure of the Lakers, we might be down but it's never for long, every basketball fan knows this as does Luka. Heck, the last I checked the Lakers were the odds on favorites to land Giannis which should say something...

No GM with half a brain is going to trade Giannis to the Lakers.

The Lakers don’t have the assets to acquire Giannis. If the Bucks trade Giannis to the Lakers for a lackluster return how is that any different from Nico trading Luka? How did that work out for Nico?

No GM is trading their star to the Lakers in the next couple of years. The Lakers lack of assets means the return will be poor and no one wants to be the next Nico (a hated pariah who will never work in the NBA again).

Do you think Jon Horst wants to hear “fire Horst!” chants in Fiserv?

I've heard that for 50 years.

[Mamba Mentality]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

messing around with the teams timeline seems like a very shortsighted move, I don't see it happening

[ConSarnit]

He should seek for team on East, maybe not Knicks, but there are other teams as well.
On East he is best player, and with better supporting cast he will have kind a open path to finals every year for next few years.

If he goes West, OKC, Denver, Houston are all still actual treats to knock him out way before he reaches finals again.

Milwaukee is not going to trade him to an East team. He's going West for sure. Depending on what the Spurs give up to get him OKC and Denver will be their biggest threats.

milwauke is gonna do what giannis tells them to do. Dont get it twisted

I agree. But if I were the Bucks I would send him to whoever makes the best offer. I wouldn’t ship him to SAC or NOP but if any mid-large market team (let’s say SAS) makes a good offer I’m taking it.

The Bucks need to get the most assets they can to try and find the next Giannis. They can’t be worried about vindictive agents because those same agents are never going to steer stars to MIL anyways. And it’s not like guys were taking discounts to stay in MIL and now that’s gonna be gone because you traded Giannis to a less than ideal destination. The upside of finding the next star is infinitely more valuable than the downside of getting squeezed by some agent over a role player’s contract because they are mad you didn’t play ball with Giannis.

[Fo-Real]

Luka would prefer the Lakers because it's one of the winningest and globally recognized franchises in professional sports. And I'm not even factoring in the lifestyle bump and business opportunities which is a whole other debate... Seriously, why the hell would one of the most popular basketball stars of this generation chose to hitch his wagon to a small market that can't attract any stars. Who is the best player that they've signed the last five years? Myles Turner?

Bucks lucked into Giannis and won a championship; I applaud them for that because that's no small feat but prior to his arrival this franchise was in dire straits for nearly two decades.

I will admit that the Lakers haven't had the had the greatest track record either since the bubble but I'm a firm believer that a lot of that has to do with guys being sick of playing in LeBron's shadow. I expect a lot more roster cohesiveness once he's out of the picture. End of the day, everyone here knows the lure of the Lakers, we might be down but it's never for long, every basketball fan knows this as does Luka. Heck, the last I checked the Lakers were the odds on favorites to land Giannis which should say something...

No GM with half a brain is going to trade Giannis to the Lakers.

The Lakers don’t have the assets to acquire Giannis. If the Bucks trade Giannis to the Lakers for a lackluster return how is that any different from Nico trading Luka? How did that work out for Nico?

No GM is trading their star to the Lakers in the next couple of years. The Lakers lack of assets means the return will be poor and no one wants to be the next Nico (a hated pariah who will never work in the NBA again).

Do you think Jon Horst wants to hear “fire Horst!” chants in Fiserv?

I've heard that for 50 years.

But Nico didn't land in the Bucks front office!!

[Bornstellar]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

messing around with the teams timeline seems like a very shortsighted move, I don't see it happening

I agree. Giannis is one of those few players who might be worth it but with the way SA is playing while dealing with injuries all year and them having mostly all their own assets going forward, I don't think the juice is worth the squeeze. If he were 26 still, then for sure. But he's getting up there and seems like he's always injured when the team needs him the most

[PushDaRock]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

If he's willing to go there, I don't think you can pass it up. It's a Top 3 player in the world. What are the odds either of those guys even end up Top 10? Giannis should likely have at least 3 more dominant seasons left and probably a few more really good ones after that. I don't know how ideal the fit is but the talent likely works itself out.

[PushDaRock]

Milwaukee is not going to trade him to an East team. He's going West for sure. Depending on what the Spurs give up to get him OKC and Denver will be their biggest threats.

milwauke is gonna do what giannis tells them to do. Dont get it twisted

I agree. But if I were the Bucks I would send him to whoever makes the best offer. I wouldn’t ship him to SAC or NOP but if any mid-large market team (let’s say SAS) makes a good offer I’m taking it.

The Bucks need to get the most assets they can to try and find the next Giannis. They can’t be worried about vindictive agents because those same agents are never going to steer stars to MIL anyways. And it’s not like guys were taking discounts to stay in MIL and now that’s gonna be gone because you traded Giannis to a less than ideal destination. The upside of finding the next star is infinitely more valuable than the downside of getting squeezed by some agent over a role player’s contract because they are mad you didn’t play ball with Giannis.

They likely have an agreement from the offseason where he agreed to give the team a chance contingent on them working together to get him to a place he wants if things go bad. There's likely a 2-3 team list.

[ConSarnit]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

messing around with the teams timeline seems like a very shortsighted move, I don't see it happening

What is the timeline issue?

SAS is 15-6

Wemby is already an MVP candidate

Fox is effectively an all-star

Given Wemby’s size (and possible injury risk) the future might be now. He’s already good enough to carry a team. Also consider that Wemby is still on his rookie deal which gives the Spurs much more salary flexibility to add supplemental pieces.

If the Spurs can get Giannis for the right price they should absolutely do it.

Saying the Spurs shouldn’t trade for Giannis because of the timeline is the equivalent of the Cavs rejecting a trade for KG in 2005. Does anyone not think the Cavs would have benefited massively from adding KG to a 3rd year Lebron?

[ConSarnit]

milwauke is gonna do what giannis tells them to do. Dont get it twisted

I agree. But if I were the Bucks I would send him to whoever makes the best offer. I wouldn’t ship him to SAC or NOP but if any mid-large market team (let’s say SAS) makes a good offer I’m taking it.

The Bucks need to get the most assets they can to try and find the next Giannis. They can’t be worried about vindictive agents because those same agents are never going to steer stars to MIL anyways. And it’s not like guys were taking discounts to stay in MIL and now that’s gonna be gone because you traded Giannis to a less than ideal destination. The upside of finding the next star is infinitely more valuable than the downside of getting squeezed by some agent over a role player’s contract because they are mad you didn’t play ball with Giannis.

They likely have an agreement from the offseason where he agreed to give the team a chance contingent on them working together to get him to a place he wants if things go bad. There's likely a 2-3 team list.

The only reporting we have right now is that he wants the Knicks so that’s what I’m going off of. Hopefully for the Bucks sake there are 2-3 more teams and they aren’t bullsh*t destinations like the Lakers (ie teams that don’t actually have the assets to trade for Giannis but still made the “list”)

[PushDaRock]

Some Spurs reporter is claiming he has big news on potential Spurs/Giannis trade he will report on later today. I think it's complete BS but I will say that he did call the Fox trade last year involving 3 teams and was one of the first to report on Fox's summer injury and allude to it being worse than just a minor strain which apparently was true given how long it took him to recover...we'll see what happens. Giannis on the Spurs would be cool but I would hate to part with Castle/Harper or even Fox

messing around with the teams timeline seems like a very shortsighted move, I don't see it happening

What is the timeline issue?

SAS is 15-6

Wemby is already an MVP candidate

Fox is effectively an all-star

Given Wemby’s size (and possible injury risk) the future might be now. He’s already good enough to carry a team. Also consider that Wemby is still on his rookie deal which gives the Spurs much more salary flexibility to add supplemental pieces.

If the Spurs can get Giannis for the right price they should absolutely do it.

Saying the Spurs shouldn’t trade for Giannis because of the timeline is the equivalent of the Cavs rejecting a trade for KG in 2005. Does anyone not think the Cavs would have benefited massively from adding KG to a 3rd year Lebron?

Also a 2 year window while Wemby is underpaid on a rookie contract to do something like this.

I'm not overpaying but at the right price I'm doing it if Giannis is willing to go there.

[PushDaRock]

I agree. But if I were the Bucks I would send him to whoever makes the best offer. I wouldn’t ship him to SAC or NOP but if any mid-large market team (let’s say SAS) makes a good offer I’m taking it.

The Bucks need to get the most assets they can to try and find the next Giannis. They can’t be worried about vindictive agents because those same agents are never going to steer stars to MIL anyways. And it’s not like guys were taking discounts to stay in MIL and now that’s gonna be gone because you traded Giannis to a less than ideal destination. The upside of finding the next star is infinitely more valuable than the downside of getting squeezed by some agent over a role player’s contract because they are mad you didn’t play ball with Giannis.

They likely have an agreement from the offseason where he agreed to give the team a chance contingent on them working together to get him to a place he wants if things go bad. There's likely a 2-3 team list.

The only reporting we have right now is that he wants the Knicks so that’s what I’m going off of. Hopefully for the Bucks sake there are 2-3 more teams and they aren’t bullsh*t destinations like the Lakers (ie teams that don’t actually have the assets to trade for Giannis but still made the “list”)

Knicks trade is only realistic if they would be able to turn the Knicks assets into draft picks from another team that they can then move in order to get back control of some of their own picks. It's a lot of moving pieces with any Knicks trade IMO

[PushDaRock]

"The reason that this is out is because we're not playing well," Doc Rivers said. "When we started out the season, I heard guys saying, 'Man, they're going to be really good.' So, let's just call a spade a spade. We're not playing well."

Doc's astute observation skills are never lacking.

[ConSarnit]

They likely have an agreement from the offseason where he agreed to give the team a chance contingent on them working together to get him to a place he wants if things go bad. There's likely a 2-3 team list.

The only reporting we have right now is that he wants the Knicks so that’s what I’m going off of. Hopefully for the Bucks sake there are 2-3 more teams and they aren’t bullsh*t destinations like the Lakers (ie teams that don’t actually have the assets to trade for Giannis but still made the “list”)

Knicks trade is only realistic if they would be able to turn the Knicks assets into draft picks from another team that they can then move in order to get back control of some of their own picks. It's a lot of moving pieces with any Knicks trade IMO

I think it’s a lot of moving pieces regardless of who the partner is. If I’m MIL in not doing the trade unless I get back a lot of my own picks. I’d be willing to take a lesser package (fewer picks) if it meant getting more of my own picks back. MIL just can’t season the next 3-4 years trying to rebuild on the backs of unknown draft picks that could end up being in the teens or worse. They need to control their own draft picks for the next couple of years. If I’m Horst any trade conversation starts with “get me my 27 and 28 1sts back” and then add on assets from there.

[PushDaRock]

The only reporting we have right now is that he wants the Knicks so that’s what I’m going off of. Hopefully for the Bucks sake there are 2-3 more teams and they aren’t bullsh*t destinations like the Lakers (ie teams that don’t actually have the assets to trade for Giannis but still made the “list”)

Knicks trade is only realistic if they would be able to turn the Knicks assets into draft picks from another team that they can then move in order to get back control of some of their own picks. It's a lot of moving pieces with any Knicks trade IMO

I think it’s a lot of moving pieces regardless of who the partner is. If I’m MIL in not doing the trade unless I get back a lot of my own picks. I’d be willing to take a lesser package (fewer picks) if it meant getting more of my own picks back. MIL just can’t season the next 3-4 years trying to rebuild on the backs of unknown draft picks that could end up being in the teens or worse. They need to control their own draft picks for the next couple of years. If I’m Horst any trade conversation starts with “get me my 27 and 28 1sts back” and then add on assets from there.

That would be my priority as well, getting back control of at least some of their own picks. Either way, I think they are pretty screwed.

[FrodoFraggins]

all these years of giannis flapping his gums and he's STILL with mil

mil, a top10 rated best cities to live in

Why don't y'all pay more attention to what giannis actutally DOES rather than lapping up all that media nonsense

What's that?