2025-26 Season News & Discussion

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[Slim Charless]

Please, no Zion. No Zion talk, even.

We have enough DNP's to deal with.

yeah, even if he somehow gets his motivation back, he'll never be healthy. No, thanks

After 5 seasons of the team trying to keep DA motivated enough to play like a consistent star, I have no desire in bringing in another immensely talented baby into the fold, and an unhealthy one no less. At least DA played

This crew we have right now does't need constant praise and coddling to play hard and give it their all.

You guys were singing a different tune last year. All of you. Which there's nothing wrong with as people change.....just like NBA players (who are people) change.

Fact remains that GoK's move of getting Zion for a Greyson or Brooks centered deal, along with Richards is a great gamble for a guy who can win multiple MVPs. Don't bring up Ayton as he was never as good as Zion even on his best day. Zion is an automatic bucket from 10 feet and in along with legit point forward skills and playmaking. Who is less than 26 years old. Lastly and this is the most important part:


His contract is non-guaranteed. 0 risk money-wise

So we lose nothing and can gain everything. Removing GReyson/Richards from the team won't make a big difference even if Zion is not Zion(which I think he is)...meanwhile if he is still that guy then we just got a 25 yr old who is the perfect player to put next to Booker and Dunn for the next decade.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Good to see them getting floor time and getting experience, even if it's only the G league.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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[lilfishi22]

yeah, even if he somehow gets his motivation back, he'll never be healthy. No, thanks

After 5 seasons of the team trying to keep DA motivated enough to play like a consistent star, I have no desire in bringing in another immensely talented baby into the fold, and an unhealthy one no less. At least DA played

This crew we have right now does't need constant praise and coddling to play hard and give it their all.

You guys were singing a different tune last year. All of you. Which there's nothing wrong with as people change.....just like NBA players (who are people) change.

Fact remains that GoK's move of getting Zion for a Greyson or Brooks centered deal, along with Richards is a great gamble for a guy who can win multiple MVPs. Don't bring up Ayton as he was never as good as Zion even on his best day. Zion is an automatic bucket from 10 feet and in along with legit point forward skills and playmaking. Who is less than 26 years old. Lastly and this is the most important part:


His contract is non-guaranteed. 0 risk money-wise

So we lose nothing and can gain everything. Removing GReyson/Richards from the team won't make a big difference even if Zion is not Zion(which I think he is)...meanwhile if he is still that guy then we just got a 25 yr old who is the perfect player to put next to Booker and Dunn for the next decade.

What tune are you referring to?

You keep fantasising about a scenario where Zion is not just healthy but playing like an allstar again which he hasn't been in not 1, not 2 but 3 seasons. ANd also remind me again what his post-season stat were. There's an absolute risk he plays just enough to earn guaranteed money next season and then he sits out again putting more or less dead salary on the books. There's also a real risk we bring in a guy with a **** attitude who doesn't play for the cost of likely 2 high level starters who is actually adding to this team's culture and identity and good for at least 60 games a season. After the last two seasons, I'm done with chasing damaged good.

You're chasing a dream that has been Pelican's nightmare ever since he was drafted #1 overall.

[bigfoot]

yeah, even if he somehow gets his motivation back, he'll never be healthy. No, thanks

After 5 seasons of the team trying to keep DA motivated enough to play like a consistent star, I have no desire in bringing in another immensely talented baby into the fold, and an unhealthy one no less. At least DA played

This crew we have right now does't need constant praise and coddling to play hard and give it their all.

You guys were singing a different tune last year. All of you. Which there's nothing wrong with as people change.....just like NBA players (who are people) change.

Fact remains that GoK's move of getting Zion for a Greyson or Brooks centered deal, along with Richards is a great gamble for a guy who can win multiple MVPs. Don't bring up Ayton as he was never as good as Zion even on his best day. Zion is an automatic bucket from 10 feet and in along with legit point forward skills and playmaking. Who is less than 26 years old. Lastly and this is the most important part:


His contract is non-guaranteed. 0 risk money-wise

So we lose nothing and can gain everything. Removing GReyson/Richards from the team won't make a big difference even if Zion is not Zion(which I think he is)...meanwhile if he is still that guy then we just got a 25 yr old who is the perfect player to put next to Booker and Dunn for the next decade.

I would not move Grayson or Brooks for Zion. Instead I would think about Green/Richards for Zion plus future draft capital. Booker, Grayson, Goodwin, Gillispie, Bouyea can hold down the guard rotation. Now we would have depth at the PF position with Zion, Brooks, Dunn, and in a pinch Oso.

Booker/Gillispie/Bouyea
Grayson/Goodwin/Brea
Brooks/O'Neale/Livers
Zion/Dunn/Davis/Fleming
Williams/Ighodaro/Maluach

This of course all hinges on Zion being an Ott and Gregory kind of guy.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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I don't really know which scenario I'd loathe more. If the Spurs were to somehow get Giannis next to Wemby.

Or if the Rockets landed Giannis using our 1sts in 27 and 29. I guess if they also had to lose Sengun in the deal too, at least the Rockets shooting would really, really suck!

But then Milwaukee, the team that bullied us in the finals and ruined our best chance at a championship, would also cash in on our premium draft picks.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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The last few years when we were a destination and we were able to sign some guys who probably could've gotten more money elsewhere but chose Phoenix for less like Tyus, Plumlee, EG, and Gillespie too. Ironically, now I almost feel less inclined to open up our roster for the best talent and focus more on the right guys, with the right attitude without a promise of playing time or role and have them earn it if they want to be a Sun.

Yes, and understandably so man. It's pretty nice to hear that we're actually a legitimate destination of interest now. And the product and culture is definitely trending in the right direction finally too with the prioritizing of tenacity and relentless hard play, defense and athleticism.

Focusing on the right types of players and proper depth is the correct pathway to reestablish competitive relevance again.

[lilfishi22]

After 5 seasons of the team trying to keep DA motivated enough to play like a consistent star, I have no desire in bringing in another immensely talented baby into the fold, and an unhealthy one no less. At least DA played

This crew we have right now does't need constant praise and coddling to play hard and give it their all.

You guys were singing a different tune last year. All of you. Which there's nothing wrong with as people change.....just like NBA players (who are people) change.

Fact remains that GoK's move of getting Zion for a Greyson or Brooks centered deal, along with Richards is a great gamble for a guy who can win multiple MVPs. Don't bring up Ayton as he was never as good as Zion even on his best day. Zion is an automatic bucket from 10 feet and in along with legit point forward skills and playmaking. Who is less than 26 years old. Lastly and this is the most important part:


His contract is non-guaranteed. 0 risk money-wise

So we lose nothing and can gain everything. Removing GReyson/Richards from the team won't make a big difference even if Zion is not Zion(which I think he is)...meanwhile if he is still that guy then we just got a 25 yr old who is the perfect player to put next to Booker and Dunn for the next decade.

I would not move Grayson or Brooks for Zion. Instead I would think about Green/Richards for Zion plus future draft capital. Booker, Grayson, Goodwin, Gillispie, Bouyea can hold down the guard rotation. Now we would have depth at the PF position with Zion, Brooks, Dunn, and in a pinch Oso.

Booker/Gillispie/Bouyea
Grayson/Goodwin/Brea
Brooks/O'Neale/Livers
Zion/Dunn/Davis/Fleming
Williams/Ighodaro/Maluach

This of course all hinges on Zion being an Ott and Gregory kind of guy.

You have to be very prepared to run a starting front court with neither Williams or Zion for 20, 30, 40 games a season