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[JMAC3]

The free agent class mostly sucks for the Hornets.

I would heavily consider throwing a decently big offer at Tari Eason. I don't know if the Rockets can afford to pay him with all the big contracts they have so they might not be able to match. Its kind of scary because of his injury history and his playstyle, but hes the exact type of player they need and probably the only good fitting player they have a chance of signing from this class.

I think if the Hornets renounce Sextons cap hold (or trade him) they can get to around 20 mil under the cap.

Yeah around 20-22 million, but that doesn't include a rookie contract.
Which will be 6-12 million depending on where we draft in the lottery, plus we will have another late first via Suns/Orlando that will make around 3 million.

So I think a safe assumption is subtract around 10 million for rookies, so we are at about 10 million in cap space as it stands now.

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Yeah, in the general discussion thread I posted their cap table for next year without Sexton and Connaughton and included their rookie cap holds based on the current draft position for their pick and Orlandos and it came out to just under 10 million in cap space.

I was under impression that the room MLE could be combined with normal cap space, but I don't think thats actually the case, so theyd have to trade one of Josh Green or Grant Williams to clear enough space to make a competitive offer for Eason.

I would totally be down to get off either of those contracts assuming they have a plan to actually use the cap space. I also wouldn't mind keeping either of them. Grant was kind of nice on this team but who knows what he'll be after that injury. Green isn't very good, but also is pretty easy to slot into a bench rotation because he shoot 3s decently well and defends a little bit.

[JMAC3]

Yeah, in the general discussion thread I posted their cap table for next year without Sexton and Connaughton and included their rookie cap holds based on the current draft position for their pick and Orlandos and it came out to just under 10 million in cap space.

I was under impression that the room MLE could be combined with normal cap space, but I don't think thats actually the case, so theyd have to trade one of Josh Green or Grant Williams to clear enough space to make a competitive offer for Eason.

I would totally be down to get off either of those contracts assuming they have a plan to actually use the cap space. I also wouldn't mind keeping either of them. Grant was kind of nice on this team but who knows what he'll be after that injury. Green isn't very good, but also is pretty easy to slot into a bench rotation because he shoot 3s decently well and defends a little bit.

We are much better off to use a trade now rather than wait for FA to make an addition because you can send guys like Sexton, Connaughton out as expiring money and just that alone is 28 million you can use to match salary vs having a 1/3 of that in cap space this summer. Plus we have a lot of picks we can add to the deal, even if that means they are only 2nds.

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I assume every white player on this team is a member of the Knueppel family.

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edit: this one literally looks like Larry Bird lol

[wilson115]

ESPN on Terry showing up in federal court and some of the potential fallout:
https://www.espn.ph/nba/story/_/id/47229222/terry-rozier-investigation-shines-spotlight-nba-trade-protocols-heat-hornets

In our conversations around the league, there were differing opinions on whether the investigation should have been disclosed. Multiple executives called it a "gray area" with no clear answer.

"On one hand, you understand why the Heat should have the right to know," the executive said. "On the other hand, what happens if the NBA discloses [the investigation] even if there is no violation, and the acquiring team backs out of the trade?"

"It's not directly called for [to disclose it]," a third team executive said. "You'd think to be a good partner, you'd disclose that, but it's not necessary as part of the trade. If I'm in Charlotte's shoes, I understand why they didn't."

Miami can file a grievance with the league for not being informed about the investigation before the trade. Sources told ESPN that the Heat haven't decided. Despite the trade occurring nearly two years ago, no statute of limitations exists on filing a grievance.

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[wilson115]

"It feels good to be wanted." - Mark Williams.

Ouch!

In other news, imagine if we'd gotten Sengun for Borrego to play with.

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[Bassman]

"It feels good to be wanted." - Mark Williams.

Ouch!

In other news, imagine if we'd gotten Sengun for Borrego to play with.

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WELP…I WAS WRONG ABOUT QUEEN. Eating my crow early. I thought he would continue his underwhelming traits into the pros, but he has responded like a stud. Triple double! Good for the Pels that their pick trade gamble might result in a star player. Why they would entertain trading Trey Murphy is beyond me (I think that rumor is BS).

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Right now if I had to bet on where Kon finishes in the RotY race I would probably go with 3rd. I think Flagg will ultimately win it and it looks to me like Harper will probably end up 2nd if he starts to get more minutes. After that there are a handful goes I would go with next and I think Kon is in the lead of that group right now (Kon, VJ, Fears, Queen, Coward).

[JustBuzzin]

Not gonna lie the Pelicans draft was pretty damm good.

Both Fears and Queen look like building blocks.

[fatlever]

Not gonna lie the Pelicans draft was pretty damm good.

Both Fears and Queen look like building blocks.

And yet there's still no excuse for trading an unprotected 2026 first round pick when it was pretty clear that the Pelicans would be in the lottery. Now it looks like they'll be one of the bottom three records in the league. They could have always taken Queen with their first pick and still had this 2026 pick.

But it's looking like less of a disaster. Queen and fears will need a lot of defensive help and some good vet leaders.



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[JMAC3]

Not gonna lie the Pelicans draft was pretty damm good.

Both Fears and Queen look like building blocks.

And yet there's still no excuse for trading an unprotected 2026 first round pick when it was pretty clear that the Pelicans would be in the lottery. Now it looks like they'll be one of the bottom three records in the league. They could have always taken Queen with their first pick and still had this 2026 pick.

But it's looking like less of a disaster. Queen and fears will need a lot of defensive help and some good vet leaders.



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It will just depend on the results. When they make the trade at the time, I think you say the pick is likely going to land somewhere between 1-10. The pick could be 3rd overall and Queen could be better than that player selected, or it could end up 7th and Queen end up a lot better than that player.

Grizz traded 16 and a future unprotected pick for 11th. Nobody could care less because we don't know the results yet.

Queen looks like a unicorn. Center who can average a triple double, run an offense through like a Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis type. We are sure Cam Boozer or Peterson will be better than that in the NBA?

[JMAC3]

Queen looks like a more valuable piece moving forward than Kon if you ask me. Kon is a nice player and helps with spacing and does a bit of everything, but as you can see from our offense he is just a guy that sometimes has the ball. He isn't a guy that can take over an offense or run an offense through them.

Pelicans literally will give the ball to Queen every play and let him dictate what happens based on how the defense is defending them. He is 1st among rookies for FTA and Assists, as a Center. He is averaging more assists per game than any rookie center in the last 50 years. Pretty much all indicators point to him also developing a 3pt shot over time so defenses are going to have to give him even more passing lanes.

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[JustBuzzin]

Not gonna lie the Pelicans draft was pretty damm good.

Both Fears and Queen look like building blocks.

And yet there's still no excuse for trading an unprotected 2026 first round pick when it was pretty clear that the Pelicans would be in the lottery. Now it looks like they'll be one of the bottom three records in the league. They could have always taken Queen with their first pick and still had this 2026 pick.

But it's looking like less of a disaster. Queen and fears will need a lot of defensive help and some good vet leaders.



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It will just depend on the results. When they make the trade at the time, I think you say the pick is likely going to land somewhere between 1-10. The pick could be 3rd overall and Queen could be better than that player selected, or it could end up 7th and Queen end up a lot better than that player.

Grizz traded 16 and a future unprotected pick for 11th. Nobody could care less because we don't know the results yet.

Queen looks like a unicorn. Center who can average a triple double, run an offense through like a Jokic, Sengun, Sabonis type. We are sure Cam Boozer or Peterson will be better than that in the NBA?

Yeah the pick has to be better than Queen for it to really backfire.

Queen definitely looks like a baby Jokic clone.

[Snidely FC]

Pelicans literally will give the ball to Queen every play and let him dictate what happens based on how the defense is defending them.

What would it look like if the Hornets literally gave the ball to Kon every play and let him dictate what happens?

Are you implying Queen is more of a unicorn because as a Center he is physically big enough to impose his will on the game?

[JMAC3]

Pelicans literally will give the ball to Queen every play and let him dictate what happens based on how the defense is defending them.

What would it look like if the Hornets literally gave the ball to Kon every play and let him dictate what happens?

Are you implying Queen is more of a unicorn because as a Center he is physically big enough to impose his will on the game?

How would they do that? I know the answer. We would have Kon dribble at the top of the key and send Brandon, Sion and Miles Bridges up to the top of the key to set screens for him. Then after we can watch Kon go 1 on 1 with the leftover defender.

Kon averages 0.83 PPP as the PnR ball handler. League average PPP on all play types is 1.15 PPP. 115 ppg per 100 possessions.

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Eric Collins is calling the ORL/MIA Cup game thank god

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Eric Collins is calling the ORL/MIA Cup game thank god

Hes calling Anthony Black "Tony Orlando" lmao

[wilson115]

WELP…I WAS WRONG ABOUT QUEEN. Eating my crow early. I thought he would continue his underwhelming traits into the pros, but he has responded like a stud. Triple double! Good for the Pels that their pick trade gamble might result in a star player. Why they would entertain trading Trey Murphy is beyond me (I think that rumor is BS).

Me too. No idea they were saying this about him before the draft. His coach at Maryland has a point here.

Have to give Borrego some credit though. What coach puts their job in the hands of a rookie like this? Didn't they draft a point guard ahead of him?

"If he was European and white he'd be the first pick in the draft," Willard told CBS Sports. "He gets a little penalized because he doesn't have the greatest athleticism. He has better ballhandling skills than most guards, he's like a 15-year-vet in the fact he knows and understands the game."

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/meet-derik-queen-marylands-best-freshman-in-30-years-and-a-throwback-in-every-way/

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Borrego has had a better stretch of offensive production since taking over the Pels about 15 or so games ago than I can ever remember the Hornets having under Lee and hes mostly doing it with two raw rookies leading the way.

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