Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis

NotMyKawhi · Post #61 » by **NotMyKawhi** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:07 pm

Actually save money doing poeltl and RJ or IQ package. Smart move

Post #62 » by **tsherkin** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:16 pm

He's played 60+ games twice in the past 7 seasons (not including the active season). Dude is never healthy.

He's an amazing player when he IS healthy, but we aren't poised to contend even with him, and he WILL miss games. He's older, he's frail, he doesn't like playing center to begin with... and we'd have to sell off anything even RESEMBLING depth and breadth of offensive options to even acquire him.

Not sure how much I love that idea. He won't position us well on his own, so there'd have to be some other move to go with it, and we'd have almost nothing left besides him, BI and Scottie after, no?

PushDaRock · Post #63 » by **PushDaRock** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:17 pm

gpoon wrote:its smoke and mirrors the real target is Gaf

He makes too much money to be a realistic option

canada_dry · Post #64 » by **canada_dry** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:25 pm

Thats the big guy everyone has been clamoring for eh

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canada_dry · Post #65 » by **canada_dry** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:26 pm

This might be Jermaine O'Neal all over again.

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YogurtProducer · Post #66 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:33 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
gpoon wrote:its smoke and mirrors the real target is Gaf

He makes too much money to be a realistic option

In theory, Ochai/Dick/Mogbo fit salary wise.

IQ/Shead
RJ/Walter
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mamu
Poeltl/Gafford

YogurtProducer · Post #67 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:34 pm

tsherkin wrote:He's played 60+ games twice in the past 7 seasons (not including the active season). Dude is never healthy.

He's an amazing player when he IS healthy, but we aren't poised to contend even with him, and he WILL miss games. He's older, he's frail, he doesn't like playing center to begin with... and we'd have to sell off anything even RESEMBLING depth and breadth of offensive options to even acquire him.

Not sure how much I love that idea. He won't position us well on his own, so there'd have to be some other move to go with it, and we'd have almost nothing left besides him, BI and Scottie after, no?

Yeah, AD is a play you make when you are on year 5 of winning 50+ games, have a ton of depth, and need to take a risk (ala - Kawhi in 2019).

Not year 1 of maybe finishing with an above .500 record.

Tha Cynic · Post #68 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:34 pm

Okay there are two things here:

If you think Anthony Davis, Barnes, Ingram is not competing to come out of the East, then you have no clue what you’re talking about.

If your argument is that he’s always injured and that’s the only concern, I agree with you.

Is Dallas just trying to dump him or save face in the Luka trade?

Tha Cynic · Post #69 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:38 pm

Troubadour wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:AD hates playing Center

He's starting at the 5 now for what it's worth.

Who are the bigs he has to face in the East that are legit big?

Duren, Embiid, Kat (also a PF)? Dude doesn’t have much to worry about on defense at the 5 lol

YogurtProducer · Post #70 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:38 pm

Tha Cynic wrote:If you think Anthony Davis, Barnes, Ingram is not competing to come out of the East, then you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Do you think IQ/Dick/Ingram/Barnes/AD is a lock to be a HCA team? Like assuming AD only plays 40 of the remaining 60 games do you think we are a lock for 50+ wins? Like we just saw what our team looked like without RJ and Poeltl. Now that is going to be a reality for 33-50% of the rest of the season if we got AD.

Because this is the same argument I am making in another thread regarding Bam. Is losing RJ + Poeltl + more more detrimental from a depth perspective than adding the top tier player? Especially since in this world Ingram is still your #1 bucket getter and it doesn't change that Ingram is not a tier 1 bucket getter.

AD is great - but can you win with AD as your best player? I don't think you can because AD needed that Lebron to be the #1 guy. I don't think BI is that #1 guy.

Tha Cynic · Post #71 » by **Tha Cynic** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:40 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:If you think Anthony Davis, Barnes, Ingram is not competing to come out of the East, then you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Do you think IQ/Dick/Ingram/Barnes/AD is a lock to be a HCA team? Like assuming AD only plays 40 of the remaining 60 games do you think we are a lock for 50+ wins?

Because this is the same argument I am making in another thread regarding Bam. Is losing RJ + Poeltl + more more detrimental from a depth perspective than adding the top tier player? Especially since in this world Ingram is still your #1 bucket getter and it doesn't change that Ingram is not a tier 1 bucket getter.

AD is great - but can you win with AD as your best player? I don't think you can because AD needed that Lebron to be the #1 guy. I don't think BI is that #1 guy.

You removed the second part of my post which was about injuries. From a healthy team perspective,AD is still a top 10 player in the league and you can fit players around that roster to easily be a HC team. When healthy imo he is the third best big in the game above Embiid. He’s one of the legit two way elite players in the league.

I am not going to argue about his injuries though. That dude never plays and that’s where Bobby would have to be very sure

navyblue · Post #72 » by **navyblue** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:41 pm

MiamiSPX wrote:
navyblue wrote:
ill-Will03 wrote:If we can get him for a BI level package why not. But I think going after Gafford is a better play.

we dont have the junk fillers salaries, olynyk + brown
any salaries we include now will be rotation players.

I am by no means in the "we must trade RJ" camp. And there is a good chance it may be just me, but it's clearly obvious they are going to trade him. The Raps have historically extended those they want to keep at all costs, right away. He has been eligible for an extension for over 2 months now and has publicly stated he wants to play for the Raptors "forever". There hasn't been a peep about getting anything done on that front, or that they are even talking. Of course, it's possible they are negotiating and something gets done here in the next few weeks/months, but I sincerely doubt it.

RJ has 2 years left, jacob had 1+1 when we extended him.
i wouldnt read anything into not extending him yet.

LoveMyRaps · Post #73 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:42 pm

No thanks

He's a beast

But way too injury prone

LoveMyRaps · Post #74 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:47 pm

I'd trade Yak for AD in a heartbeat.

LoveMyRaps · Post #75 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:49 pm

this is the only proposal that makes a little sense but yeah, i just don't see a deal happening between the two teams

I've wanted Christie for a long time and think he can be a Tre Murphy like player.

IQ
Christie
Barrett
Barnes
AD

Not bad...

PushDaRock · Post #76 » by **PushDaRock** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:51 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
gpoon wrote:its smoke and mirrors the real target is Gaf

He makes too much money to be a realistic option

In theory, Ochai/Dick/Mogbo fit salary wise.

IQ/Shead
RJ/Walter
Ingram/Battle
Barnes/Mamu
Poeltl/Gafford

Yeah, I don't think that's a realistic trade. Gafford also makes 18m for the next 3 seasons after this one.

Investing that much money at the C position for 2 guys that can't shoot 3's and would potentially get played off the court in a playoff series seems like a bad use of resources.

Post #77 » by **tsherkin** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:53 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
tsherkin wrote:He's played 60+ games twice in the past 7 seasons (not including the active season). Dude is never healthy.

He's an amazing player when he IS healthy, but we aren't poised to contend even with him, and he WILL miss games. He's older, he's frail, he doesn't like playing center to begin with... and we'd have to sell off anything even RESEMBLING depth and breadth of offensive options to even acquire him.

Not sure how much I love that idea. He won't position us well on his own, so there'd have to be some other move to go with it, and we'd have almost nothing left besides him, BI and Scottie after, no?

Yeah, AD is a play you make when you are on year 5 of winning 50+ games, have a ton of depth, and need to take a risk (ala - Kawhi in 2019).

Not year 1 of maybe finishing with an above .500 record.

Yes, this, exactly.

PushDaRock · Post #78 » by **PushDaRock** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 5:54 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:this is the only proposal that makes a little sense but yeah, i just don't see a deal happening between the two teams

I've wanted Christie for a long time and think he can be a Tre Murphy like player.

IQ
Christie
Barrett
Barnes
AD

Not bad...

lol how does that make sense for Dallas though?

LoveMyRaps · Post #79 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 6:00 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:this is the only proposal that makes a little sense but yeah, i just don't see a deal happening between the two teams

I've wanted Christie for a long time and think he can be a Tre Murphy like player.

IQ
Christie
Barrett
Barnes
AD

Not bad...

lol how does that make sense for Dallas though?

Maybe they like Ingram? Who knows lol

Post #80 » by **HiJiNX** » Tue Dec 9, 2025 6:11 pm

My mind says no but my heart says yes. AD, Barnes, and BI with some guys who can shoot (actually shoot) and defend is a title contender. I think people forget how good AD actually is because he’s often hurt. But he’s an MVP level player. He can shoot. He can defend every area of the court and in every situation.. He is a lob threat. He scores at all levels. He can pass. And he doesn’t have attitude issues. If we can keep him healthy, which is a big if, then it’s a gamble that can really pay off.