Jayson Tatum Thread

[Tatumfor2]

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Looking good JT!!

[brackdan70]

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Looking good JT!!

Which side was the injury….i am trying to notice any favoring…He looks good.
Edit: right side.

[Hal14]

Ok, now I'm thinking like maybe 1st game after the all star break he could maybe come back?

That's Feb 19 @ warriors.

He did say though he wants to come back when it's a home game. 1st home game after the ASB is 2/27 vs Brooklyn on a friday night. Maybe that one? An easy opponent, so he can be on a mins restriction and we still win. Then we're off the next day and then he could possibly be full go the next 2 games vs Philly and Milwaukee.

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[playa-hater]

I won't comment anything on this until something becomes more "official". But even if he does comeback "this season" why rush it as early as February 19ish?? I get he wants extra time to get in playing shape etc.. But the risk of coming back too soon, and then re-injuring again is far more costly than getting an extra month of playing conditioning etc..

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Ugh Celtics unite is one of those celtics fan accounts that uses lots of hyperbole and tries to overhype the team and its players a lot in a cringe way.

Good to see the video footage, it's encouraging.

But it's not 5 mins.. it's 2.5 mins and some of that he's going like half speed..so saying it's 5 mins at full speed is misleading..

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I won't comment anything on this until something becomes more "official". But even if he does comeback "this season" why rush it as early as February 19ish?? I get he wants extra time to get in playing shape etc.. But the risk of coming back too soon, and then re-injuring again is far more costly than getting an extra month of playing conditioning etc..

Agreed. I'd rather being safe than sorry.

Also, I get that we could maybe win the east if he comes back.

But then chances are we'd get killed by OKC in the finals..even if it's someone like denver or houston in the finals, we'd be heavy underdogs, especially with a Tatum who won't be the tatum we are used to seeing..it will be tatum coming off a torn achilles, still getting into game shape, without a training camp..

And chances are, OKC will be weaker next season since the'll probably have to move some of their key guys since the max extensions will be kicked in at that point for SGA/jdub/Chet.

I'd rather take it slow with Tatum coming back, get our ducks in a row and position ourselves for a potential title run in 2027.

We might get a good player in the 2026 draft as well (no, I'm not saying anything about tanking this year lol).

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Ugh Celtics unite is one of those celtics fan accounts that uses lots of hyperbole and tries to overhype the team and its players a lot in a cringe way.

Good to see the video footage, it's encouraging.

But it's not 5 mins.. it's 2.5 mins and some of that he's going like half speed..so saying it's 5 mins at full speed is misleading..

I truly don't understand seeing how much progress our superstar player has made and coming away upset that the tweet overstated the length of the video. It just seems like jumping through hoops to turn a positive into a negative.

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Ugh Celtics unite is one of those celtics fan accounts that uses lots of hyperbole and tries to overhype the team and its players a lot in a cringe way.

Good to see the video footage, it's encouraging.

But it's not 5 mins.. it's 2.5 mins and some of that he's going like half speed..so saying it's 5 mins at full speed is misleading..

I truly don't understand seeing how much progress our superstar player has made and coming away upset that the tweet overstated the length of the video. It just seems like jumping through hoops to turn a positive into a negative.

I'm not upset. It's not that deep.

I'm just saying, the plays I was seeing were closer to half speed than full speed. So the post was a bit misleading and could result in folks thinking tatum is further along in his recovery than he really is.

Not trying to be negative - just trying to be a realist.

Perhaps you missed the part of my post where I said "Good to see the video footage, it's encouraging."

Jeez, it's like walking on egg shells around here..I'll probably spend less time here moving forward.

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Ugh Celtics unite is one of those celtics fan accounts that uses lots of hyperbole and tries to overhype the team and its players a lot in a cringe way.

Good to see the video footage, it's encouraging.

But it's not 5 mins.. it's 2.5 mins and some of that he's going like half speed..so saying it's 5 mins at full speed is misleading..

yeah, definitely not full speed. But, also definitely not a guy that looks like he wants to wait til October, either.

[bisme37]

I won't comment anything on this until something becomes more "official". But even if he does comeback "this season" why rush it as early as February 19ish?? I get he wants extra time to get in playing shape etc.. But the risk of coming back too soon, and then re-injuring again is far more costly than getting an extra month of playing conditioning etc..

Agreed. I'd rather being safe than sorry.

Also, I get that we could maybe win the east if he comes back.

But then chances are we'd get killed by OKC in the finals..even if it's someone like denver or houston in the finals, we'd be heavy underdogs, especially with a Tatum who won't be the tatum we are used to seeing..it will be tatum coming off a torn achilles, still getting into game shape, without a training camp..

And chances are, OKC will be weaker next season since the'll probably have to move some of their key guys since the max extensions will be kicked in at that point for SGA/jdub/Chet.

I'd rather take it slow with Tatum coming back, get our ducks in a row and position ourselves for a potential title run in 2027.

We might get a good player in the 2026 draft as well (no, I'm not saying anything about tanking this year lol).

Hal, from my perspective it's been 6-7 months now of me and others posting Tatum recovery updates in this thread and you quoting nearly every post and relentlessly crapping on it. Which is just not very fun.

I think we are all aware of your position on the matter, and it's fine if we don't see things the same way, but I don't see the need to keep disagreeing about something we both already know we disagree about. We're all going to find out when Tatum comes back when he comes back. So sorry if I bit your head off but I'd like to post in the thread without getting my head chewed as well.

[Fierce1]

There was a lot of pushback when Tatum's dad, Justin, said JT's recovery period will be 8-9 months.
They said Justin is not a doctor, so why should we listen to him.
I don't think a father would be so reckless to say something like that.
The doctors gave Justin information and Justin was just answering the question honestly.

Before the season started, I said JT will make noise once people see him running in December.
Looks like JT has exceeded that expectation.

What JT is doing in that video is not something someone would do if he's not fully healed from the injury.

Right now it's about making sure that the calf muscle is back to normal so that the achilles will not tear again.

There's a difference between fully healed and ready to get back on the court again.

I think the whole month of January will dictate whether JT can return in February or not.

My prediction was a March return, but if JT returns in February then my prediction was too conservative.

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[Fierce1]

Joe saying it's all up to Tatum puts an end to the speculation that the Celtic front office can prevent Tatum from playing this season.

[GreenBloodedC]

It feels inevitable at this point that Tatum will return. even if for some reason, we fall way down the standings, I think he'll try to get some burn this season.

[watsonthedragon]

I don't really understand the point about holding him out longer just to be safe to avoid re-injury. I supposed that makes sense if you feel like the organization and his own personal medical staff is going to be okay rushing him, but I'm running on the assumption that we'll see him back as soon as he's cleared as 100% by all parties involved. Like many have said before me - you can't be 110% recovered. There's also the huge mental portion of the recovery and to me, the sooner he can get back out there the sooner he can start that recovery.

[cl2117]

I don't see how he's not coming back at some stage this year. The team has played too well and the East is too weak for there to be a scenario where it's not worth bringing him back for a chance to make a run when he's fully cleared/healthy.

I can 100% appreciate taking an extra long time to fully sign off on him taking the court again though, mainly in an effort to protect him from himself. These hyper competitive athletes want to get back to playing so badly that I think you need to make sure they're not convincing themselves they're ready before they are. Dr's can clear them but a lot of the decisions at the end of rehab are dictated by how patients say things are feeling when they ramp up activity and it's a dangerous spot to rely on someone who is consciously or subconsciously biased towards things being all good so they can play again.

I don't think you hold him out extensively but I'd certainly make sure there was plenty of ramp up even if that impacted the final stretch determining seeding or even early rounds of the playoffs. I would want to be 100% sure that he's not putting himself in a situation with a higher than normal risk for re-injury at any point. Better safe than sorry.

And even if we end up beset with injuries and/or have a massive 2nd half collapse that leaves us in the lottery, I'd rather get him back on the court when he's fully healthy regardless of the state of our season just so he can start shaking off the mental rust that so many others have highlighted as being one of the biggest hurdles after a major injury and time away from the game. So one way or the other he should be out there this year (assuming he's fully cleared).

[Shak_Celts]

I don't see how he's not coming back at some stage this year. The team has played too well and the East is too weak for there to be a scenario where it's not worth bringing him back for a chance to make a run when he's fully cleared/healthy.

I can 100% appreciate taking an extra long time to fully sign off on him taking the court again though, mainly in an effort to protect him from himself. These hyper competitive athletes want to get back to playing so badly that I think you need to make sure they're not convincing themselves they're ready before they are. Dr's can clear them but a lot of the decisions at the end of rehab are dictated by how patients say things are feeling when they ramp up activity and it's a dangerous spot to rely on someone who is consciously or subconsciously biased towards things being all good so they can play again.

I don't think you hold him out extensively but I'd certainly make sure there was plenty of ramp up even if that impacted the final stretch determining seeding or even early rounds of the playoffs. I would want to be 100% sure that he's not putting himself in a situation with a higher than normal risk for re-injury at any point. Better safe than sorry.

And even if we end up beset with injuries and/or have a massive 2nd half collapse that leaves us in the lottery, I'd rather get him back on the court when he's fully happy regardless of the state of our season just so he can start shaking off the mental rust that so many others have highlighted as being one of the biggest hurdles after a major injury and time away from the game. So one way or the other he should be out there this year (assuming he's fully cleared).

You could say the same about any injury, so who decides when it’s enough time when the main ingredient is the player? Some people recover faster than others, I do, because a lot of it is mental. They have to trust what Tatum says, unless they see something physically wrong with him, trusting him is the only decision.

He could get re-injured even if he comes back next season. You can say the risk is heightened but that’s opinion not based on fact. His team and doctors have opinions based on facts. No one will ever truly know, until he goes out and plays.

I really don’t understand why people would think they would want to send someone out there before they’re ready, when it’s an injury as crucial as that one was. We’re just fans and we care, imagine when your whole business depends on player’s health. They are definitely taking it more serious than we are as fans.

Sure, you could even bring up injuries where you think people were “rushed” back, because they thought they were ready, but there are also guys who stayed out for a whole season only to come back and still get injured. It’s really the player’s mentality and luck. Wall, Embiid, KD all took a season off and came back to go out again. Didn’t Embiid miss his first 2 seasons? He hasn’t been healthy since. Yeah, they can do all the steps to try and prevent things, but it’s really all up to luck of the draw.

I trust them to send him out when everyone agrees he’s ready. Once again, you can never really know until he plays. Even then, he could get a totally unrelated injury just for people to try and say it’s because he came back too early, based on their own made up timeline.

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I'm in the camp of showing patience.