2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[Crazy-Canuck]

Zach Lavine scored 3 points with Bam as his primary defender on 1-3 shooting lol, come on F4TW

Honestly im throwing shade on Wiggins and Spo here not Bam. We should have put Bam on Lavine, or heck tried to double him because he wasn't passing.

Same with Bane last night. Put Ware in there to guard WCJ and move Bam out to Bane to put an end to the nonsense. WCJ is only trying to score when wide open or the perfect opportunity presents itself anyways, Ware could be used as a deterrent in this scenario

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Honestly im throwing shade on Wiggins and Spo here not Bam. We should have put Bam on Lavine, or heck tried to double him because he wasn't passing.

Same with Bane last night. Put Ware in there to guard WCJ and move Bam out to Bane to put an end to the nonsense. WCJ is only trying to score when wide open or the perfect opportunity presents itself anyways, Ware could be used as a deterrent in this scenario

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

[Crazy-Canuck]

Same with Bane last night. Put Ware in there to guard WCJ and move Bam out to Bane to put an end to the nonsense. WCJ is only trying to score when wide open or the perfect opportunity presents itself anyways, Ware could be used as a deterrent in this scenario

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

Hedge and recover works if the guards give enough resistance to buy enough time for Bam to recover.

Imo, switch is just the easiest and takes thinking out of the equation. Imagine powell, herro, and even Davion having to to think when to switch, when to hedge, when to recover, go etc.. blown coverages everywhere.

All is moot though when you have so many size mismatches across the board. Playing 3 guards and an undersized pf just leaves you susceptible to get targeted in close games. No way around it. Now it forces Bam and wiggins to get caught overhelping on those guards. That's where the magic hit some free looks from the corner this game. Now Bam has to be aware of Carter, then the paint becomes free for suggs, black, and bane to walk to the rim unscathed.

[HeatGuyInChicago]

Same with Bane last night. Put Ware in there to guard WCJ and move Bam out to Bane to put an end to the nonsense. WCJ is only trying to score when wide open or the perfect opportunity presents itself anyways, Ware could be used as a deterrent in this scenario

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

If Herro and Powell are going to be out there, they need to make buckets to put pressure on Bane to remain hot. Herro missed 2 clutch FGs I believe at the end of the 4th quarter.

[Daffy]

Same with Bane last night. Put Ware in there to guard WCJ and move Bam out to Bane to put an end to the nonsense. WCJ is only trying to score when wide open or the perfect opportunity presents itself anyways, Ware could be used as a deterrent in this scenario

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

And along with this we also have Wiggins fighting to switch over if anything. What I don't understand in that YouTube video I sent of Bane....the only players I remember seeing defending him were Herro, Dru, and Jaime. How the **** do we not throw Wiggins at him at all. Its not like Banchero was really killing us. The more I think about it. This team needs another Wing and a C.

[Daffy]

We keep throwing Wiggs at the 4 which is okay for short stretches but doesn't this guy weigh less than Herro and Norm? What are we really doing.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

And along with this we also have Wiggins fighting to switch over if anything. What I don't understand in that YouTube video I sent of Bane....the only players I remember seeing defending him were Herro, Dru, and Jaime. How the **** do we not throw Wiggins at him at all. Its not like Banchero was really killing us. The more I think about it. This team needs another Wing and a C.

If wiggins or even bam is on bane, then banchero just posts up one of the guards or bane switched onto a guard anyways. There's no right answer other than to play a bigger line up and give them enough reps to figure it out.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

If Herro and Powell are going to be out there, they need to make buckets to put pressure on Bane to remain hot. Herro missed 4 FGs I believe at the end of the 4th quarter.

Bane had 4 fouls with 9 minutes left in the 3rd and the players nor the coaching staff made an effort to attack him to get that 5th foul, that is just terrible game management. You either get his 5th foul or he barely defends to avoid it which leads to easy looks

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

And along with this we also have Wiggins fighting to switch over if anything. What I don't understand in that YouTube video I sent of Bane....the only players I remember seeing defending him were Herro, Dru, and Jaime. How the **** do we not throw Wiggins at him at all. Its not like Banchero was really killing us. The more I think about it. This team needs another Wing and a C.

Funny thing is we’re wing heavy and we STILL need a wing. We need to consolidate these guys whether it’s for giannis to whatever and get some legit 2 way talent in here. I’m sick of watching guys get hunted relentlessly and we just allow it to happen. Pelle getting injured hurt

[Jstock12]

So they made Jakucionis miss a G-League game just to call him up from 3000 miles away while everyone is healthy and give him a DNP. Not sure about this player development strategy. At least he bonded with the main team guys a bit, I guess.

[greg4012]

That’s why like Ware at the 5 with Bam because than Bam can guard the top or the best player and we don’t have to worry about a guard covering the bigs at the bottom. But now I see why ware has to play second unit because we literally have no other bigs

The bolded doesn't pass the sniff test.

There are 48 center minutes in a game. Ware can very easily play 25+ mpg (rather than the 10-15 minutes he's been playing lately) and Miami can keep one of Ware or Bam on the floor at Center at all times.

PF - Bam (7-10 minutes) - Wiggins/Jaquez/Jovic/Fontecchio (38-41 minutes)
C - Ware (25 minutes) - Bam (23 minutes)

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Putting bam on bane wouldnt have worked. All the magic would do is set a screen and there would be a switch onto powell or herro whenever they wanted.

Its easy to shoot over any of our guards except pelle.

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

Hedge and recover works if the guards give enough resistance to buy enough time for Bam to recover.

Imo, switch is just the easiest and takes thinking out of the equation. Imagine powell, herro, and even Davion having to to think when to switch, when to hedge, when to recover, go etc.. blown coverages everywhere.

All is moot though when you have so many size mismatches across the board. Playing 3 guards and an undersized pf just leaves you susceptible to get targeted in close games. No way around it. Now it forces Bam and wiggins to get caught overhelping on those guards. That's where the magic hit some free looks from the corner this game. Now Bam has to be aware of Carter, then the paint becomes free for suggs, black, and bane to walk to the rim unscathed.

Which points to a glaring issue, these are professionals but we can’t rely on them to know how/when to hedge and switch or even play with some kind of pride on the defensive end. I’m not even trying to pile on the guy but that mid range jumper Banchero drilled over Herro late in the 4th was just disgusting effort. He caught the ball with like 4 seconds left, shot it with like 1-2, didn’t move an inch from where he caught it and Tyler I guess wasn’t aware of the clock because he didn’t pressure him or anything, I can’t even remember if he put a hand up to be honest. At some point you have to give some effort, it should make you sick to get scored on

[3ammy3uck3ts]

That’s why like Ware at the 5 with Bam because than Bam can guard the top or the best player and we don’t have to worry about a guard covering the bigs at the bottom. But now I see why ware has to play second unit because we literally have no other bigs

The bolded doesn't pass the sniff test.

There are 48 center minutes in a game. Ware can very easily play 25+ mpg (rather than the 10-15 minutes he's been playing lately) and Miami can keep one of Ware or Bam on the floor at Center at all times.

PF - Bam (7-10 minutes) - Wiggins/Jaquez/Jovic/Fontecchio (38-41 minutes)
C - Ware (25 minutes) - Bam (23 minutes)

Yeah there’s more than enough minutes to go around. I’ve been looking at our on/off numbers this morning and it’s starting to look like we’re hitting a point in the season where we just may simply need to ask more from a minutes standpoint of our best players. It’s hard to justify certain players only getting 30 minutes a night

[HeatGuyInChicago]

Discuss in the timeout to not switch, maybe a light hedge and have Bam fight through the screen and recover, gotta switch something up you can’t continue to let a team get favorable matchups against you, especially in the 4th

If Herro and Powell are going to be out there, they need to make buckets to put pressure on Bane to remain hot. Herro missed 4 FGs I believe at the end of the 4th quarter.

Bane had 4 fouls with 9 minutes left in the 3rd and the players nor the coaching staff made an effort to attack him to get that 5th foul, that is just terrible game management. You either get his 5th foul or he barely defends to avoid it which leads to easy looks

Herro had 2 FG attempts in the 4th quarter. One was a 3pt hero ball.

[Hoops3355]

https://youtu.be/VvfgoIRKJao?si=9un5VyS1SWSjrY47

This is why it's hard to take certain posters here seriously or people on Twitter serious. Is Tyler Herro a bad defender? Yes. If you read a lot of the comments they'd have you believe Bane had Herrk in a blender all night and by blender I mean as if Bane got majority of his points against him.

How many of those possessions were even against Herro out of his 37 points?

Being at the game. I'll tell you Norm tweaked his leg off that shot he got pushed into the crowd which seems to be an every game occurrence now with his groin with that said he's getting absolutely cooked on defense coming over the top of screens. Tyler biggest problem is that he has 6'6'' Wiggs coming over as his help defender once they get past him typically at the foul line.

If Spo is serious about his commitment to this group he's going to have to run Tyler at the 1 and Norm at the 2 etc you guys know what we want to see. Send Mitchell to run the 2nd unit and blend in when the match up makes sense to ride him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

If Herro and Powell are going to be out there, they need to make buckets to put pressure on Bane to remain hot. Herro missed 4 FGs I believe at the end of the 4th quarter.

Bane had 4 fouls with 9 minutes left in the 3rd and the players nor the coaching staff made an effort to attack him to get that 5th foul, that is just terrible game management. You either get his 5th foul or he barely defends to avoid it which leads to easy looks

Herro had 2 FG attempts in the 4th quarter. One was a 3pt hero ball.

So if we’re not going to use him on offense and he doesn’t play defense; why do we have him out there? I was saying this in the game thread last night…..I know we’re more of a run and gun free flowing offense this season but you still need to get the ball to your best players. It’s too much standing around watching Simone Jaime etc. force up bad shots over the course of the game. Every elite team plays through their best players, we don’t need to get away from that just because we’re playing at a faster pace.

[Daffy]

I'm growing tired of watching the same BS with this team year in year out ever since the Wade and Bron days. We're basically hoping to overachieve with guys who shouldn't be playing as many minutes as they are and some who should be playing more minutes aren't playing. During the Butler era it was the same thing. Our main guys surrounded by guys hoping they'd overachieve. Either tank for some talent or make a **** move already and build around that star talent.

[Daffy]

No reason we should have to play at this scheme just to make guys look better than they are and when we cant play our style they revert back to pumpkins.

[al bondiga]

So they made Jakucionis miss a G-League game just to call him up from 3000 miles away while everyone is healthy and give him a DNP. Not sure about this player development strategy. At least he bonded with the main team guys a bit, I guess.

What you talk about , has always been the biggest flaw I see in Eric

he has a Huge misallocation of resources In the way he coaches in-Game...but He makes-up for it in practice Or maybe He makes upfor it When he analyzes video

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I'm growing tired of watching the same BS with this team year in year out ever since the Wade and Bron days. We're basically hoping to overachieve with guys who shouldn't be playing as many minutes as they are and some who should be playing more minutes aren't playing. During the Butler era it was the same thing. Our main guys surrounded by guys hoping they'd overachieve. Either tank for some talent or make a **** move already and build around that star talent.

I’m sure I’m setting myself up for disappointment but I legit think this is the year we get something big done from a trade standpoint