Rumors, Random Thoughts, etc Version 20/20 We all got everything right...

[JRoy]

MIL OUT - Giannis
MIL IN - FVV, RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 FRP returned from PDX, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

HOU OUT - FVV, Sengun, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets
HOU IN - Giannis

PDX OUT - RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 MIL FRP
PDX IN - Sengun

I don’t hate it.

[toooskies]

MIL OUT - Giannis
MIL IN - FVV, RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 FRP returned from PDX, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

HOU OUT - FVV, Sengun, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets
HOU IN - Giannis

PDX OUT - RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 MIL FRP
PDX IN - Sengun

I don’t hate it.

Every deal with FVV needs to consider why FVV would accept it because he's got an implicit no-trade clause, and he won't want to be on that Milwaukee team.

[mlloyd10]

MIL OUT - Giannis
MIL IN - FVV, RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 FRP returned from PDX, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

HOU OUT - FVV, Sengun, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets
HOU IN - Giannis

PDX OUT - RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 MIL FRP
PDX IN - Sengun

Pure Garbage for the Bucks - Atleast give us Sengun

[jayjaysee]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3-4 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

Would be Milwaukee getting a good rookie Egor, a young prospect Clowney, and 4-5 firsts? I didn’t go through the list of what firsts Brooklyn still owns. Probably should have..

[mlloyd10]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

You seem to think that Rollins is no more than a throw in. After Giannis and BYK 1st, he's the most valuable asset in the trade

[JRoy]

MIL OUT - Giannis
MIL IN - FVV, RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 FRP returned from PDX, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

HOU OUT - FVV, Sengun, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets
HOU IN - Giannis

PDX OUT - RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 MIL FRP
PDX IN - Sengun

Pure Garbage for the Bucks - Atleast give us Sengun

Your picks back is garbage for a tanking team?

I’m ok with POR keeping likely lotto picks.

[mlloyd10]

MIL OUT - Giannis
MIL IN - FVV, RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 FRP returned from PDX, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets

HOU OUT - FVV, Sengun, 2027 Suns 1st via Rockets, 2 Most Favorable of 2029 Suns/Mavericks/Rockets 1sts via Rockets
HOU IN - Giannis

PDX OUT - RWIII, Thybulle, Yang, 2 swaps + 1 MIL FRP
PDX IN - Sengun

Pure Garbage for the Bucks - Atleast give us Sengun

Your picks back is garbage for a tanking team?

I’m ok with POR keeping likely lotto picks.

1 pick back and a couple of swaps..Yeah Garbage

[jayjaysee]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

You seem to think that Rollins is no more than a throw in. After Giannis and BYK 1st, he's the most valuable asset in the trade

Kind of a hot take for no reason there? Egor.. 3-4 unidentified future firsts..

After this lost season Rollins will be a 4 mil expiring that can’t be extended heading to UFA. Hopefully his hot start returns though. Putting up a bunch of points with poor efficiency in losses isn’t really valuable.

You could say it’s not enough value. Or say you want extra if Rollins is in. But yeah..

I was just playing with a way to get Giannis to Brooklyn without using MPJ/Clsxton.

[JRoy]

Pure Garbage for the Bucks - Atleast give us Sengun

Your picks back is garbage for a tanking team?

I’m ok with POR keeping likely lotto picks.

1 pick back and a couple of swaps..Yeah Garbage

LOL

Do you think some team is sending a young superstar for GA?

Too bad MIL turned down the Luka deal.

[chrbal]

Assuming that the Kings go full rebuild. Does some version Malik Monk to Chicago for Patrick Williams make sense?

I feel like whatever picks would go to Sacramento. Chicago at least gets a useable player with one less season on his contract.

Kings get compensation for adding one more year of a contract while in a full rebuild.

* not a fan of either team, just curious if it makes any sense

[mlloyd10]

Your picks back is garbage for a tanking team?

I’m ok with POR keeping likely lotto picks.

1 pick back and a couple of swaps..Yeah Garbage

LOL

Do you think some team is sending a young superstar for GA?

Too bad MIL turned down the Luka deal.

A young star - Yes

Trade centered around someone like Deni Avdija or Jalen Johnson ( not necessary those players ) but those type of players

[zimpy27]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3-4 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

Would be Milwaukee getting a good rookie Egor, a young prospect Clowney, and 4-5 firsts? I didn’t go through the list of what firsts Brooklyn still owns. Probably should have..

I think the only way that Bucks don't ask for all star talent back in a Giannis trade is if they get their picks from Atlanta. Don't see how Bucks can bottom out if they don't have their FRPs until 2031.

[JRoy]

1 pick back and a couple of swaps..Yeah Garbage

LOL

Do you think some team is sending a young superstar for GA?

Too bad MIL turned down the Luka deal.

A young star - Yes

Trade centered around someone like Deni Avdija or Jalen Johnson ( not necessary those players ) but those type of players

Fair enough.

But POR doesn’t want to make MIL better if we are keeping those picks, so no Deni.

[jayjaysee]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3-4 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

Would be Milwaukee getting a good rookie Egor, a young prospect Clowney, and 4-5 firsts? I didn’t go through the list of what firsts Brooklyn still owns. Probably should have..

I think the only way that Bucks don't ask for all star talent back in a Giannis trade is if they get their picks from Atlanta. Don't see how Bucks can bottom out if they don't have their FRPs until 2031.

I think Egor is a really good prospect.. Clowney an interesting one.. Milwaukee will still be drafting in the top 10 in 2026..

I don’t necessarily disagree that it’s not enough value I posted, especially since Brooklyn traded the Phoenix firsts so they really need to load up on volume versus variance… That’s why I said 3-4 more picks. Could need more. Or it could be 1-2 of their current prospects instead of Highsmith..

but I think Milwaukee could decide to load up on youth and just ignore the sunken cost. It’s not hard to build a team that competes for the play-in in the East while you hope to hit on 1-2 of the picks from the Giannis return.

[jayjaysee]

For cap circumventing fun? Seems legal to me?

Boston: Simons
Brooklyn: Mann

Boston takes on long term money to save today.

Then..

Brokkyn: Simons, Egor, Highsmith, Clowney, 2026 Brooklyn first, 3-4 other future firsts
Milwaukee: Giannis, Rollins, Giannis brother

Have to do it in multiple transactions using room ex first, say Rollins into it..? Brooklyn likely has to buy a guy out or find a third team, etc..

But.. Brooklyn is only 3 games out of the play-in. They’d still have a roster full of youth and would keep their future draft capital out of it..

Follow up they could aggregate a few players into a guy making 15-18 if you wanted to upgrade Rollins/Cam/rookies.. Or wait until the offseason when you can aggregate a bit more / use MLE..

Would be Milwaukee getting a good rookie Egor, a young prospect Clowney, and 4-5 firsts? I didn’t go through the list of what firsts Brooklyn still owns. Probably should have..

I think the only way that Bucks don't ask for all star talent back in a Giannis trade is if they get their picks from Atlanta. Don't see how Bucks can bottom out if they don't have their FRPs until 2031.

I think Egor is a really good prospect.. Clowney an interesting one.. Milwaukee will still be drafting in the top 10 in 2026..

I don’t necessarily disagree that it’s not enough value I posted, especially since Brooklyn traded the Phoenix firsts so they really need to load up on volume versus variance… That’s why I said 3-4 more picks. Could need more. Or it could be 1-2 of their current prospects instead of Highsmith..

but I think Milwaukee could decide to load up on youth and just ignore the sunken cost. It’s not hard to build a team that competes for the play-in in the East while you hope to hit on 1-2 of the picks from the Giannis return.

I do still hope Giannis sticks with Milwaukee though. At the 2026 draft they’ll have a top 10 pick, the 2031 first, Kuzma’s 20 mil expiring.. that’s enough for a really good player / even an “all star” (not superstar) considering this draft. Joining Turner, Green, and hopefully Rollins grows throughout this season.. Giannis doesn’t need a superstar partner to win, just a talented roster.

But doesn’t seem like that’s where this is headed.

[zimpy27]

Could Bucks go for LaVine or some of the Kings talent?

[Devilanche]

Could Bucks go for LaVine or some of the Kings talent?

I think it’s pointless but it really depends what is the best offer for Giannis. It if underwhelms , might as well try for it one more time . What are the chances Bucks is drafting someone as good as Giannis in the next 10 years? Try one more time even if you may fall short.

Offseason offers could be better .

[mlloyd10]

How much value does Sabonis have?

Would a salary filler and a 1st be enough?

Been thinking about bucks/hawks trade, but sending KP/Kuz/ hawks 2029 1st

[zimpy27]

Could Cavs make a move for Giannis?

Cavs have a huge payroll and have been underwhelming, they could duck 2nd apron and get Giannis.

[kobe_vs_jordan]

How much value does Sabonis have?

Would a salary filler and a 1st be enough?

Been thinking about bucks/hawks trade, but sending KP/Kuz/ hawks 2029 1st

The filler would be portis or turner with the bucks salaries