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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#701 » by Mr Puddles » Yesterday 3:31 am

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As king shared above, Sabonis although intruiging, would take quite a bit ( of much we don't even have) to get. And even though we do need help to pick up the load during times of injury to Booker and/ or J Green, I'm not sure we have the salaries to make a deal work.

And we definitely don't have the draft assets either for what they'd be asking for in return.


Is sabonis well suited to play PF though? I don't like the idea of moving Williams for him.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#702 » by NapoleonII » Yesterday 5:40 am

He can’t defend in space, shoot the 3 consistently, or really defend the rim, and seems to need the ball.

No thanks.

Give me Williams / Royce + likely Green attacking the rim all day over this career mid center.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#703 » by Ghost of Kleine » Yesterday 7:50 am

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Does anyone else see what this guy is seeing in this 6'6 guard prospect? Could he be a 2nd round target for us to consider.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#705 » by Qwigglez » Yesterday 9:43 pm

Sabonis for Green and Richards works financially. Suns are a bit more balanced and not so guard heavy. I believe Sabonis doesn't like playing center that much anyway, so keeping Mark Williams is key here.

Gillespie / Goodwin / Bouyea
Booker / Allen / Brea
Brooks / Dunn / Fleming
Sabonis / Royce / Hayes-Davis
Williams / Oso / Maluach
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Post#706 » by sunsbg » Yesterday 9:55 pm

Sabonis and Booker are 29yo. Brooks too. Allen and Royce early 30s. Green is a lot younger, but there is some redundancy with him and Booker. I'm not sure which direction FO prefers - staying younger or filling a greater need to balance current roster. Ultimately Ott is the person to tell if Sabonis fits well in his system.
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Post#707 » by TeamTragic » Today 12:22 am

Qwigglez wrote:Sabonis for Green and Richards works financially. Suns are a bit more balanced and not so guard heavy. I believe Sabonis doesn't like playing center that much anyway, so keeping Mark Williams is key here.

Gillespie / Goodwin / Bouyea
Booker / Allen / Brea
Brooks / Dunn / Fleming
Sabonis / Royce / Hayes-Davis
Williams / Oso / Maluach


I have no clue why we would trade Green. I would keep him over Booker.

I would however make Booker available and see what he fetches on the open market.
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Post#708 » by sunskerr » Today 12:45 am

Sabonis is such a crap fit for any team in the modern NBA. I agree he'd be best at PF but the spacing is just horrendous if he doesn't play 5 and this year having shooters at 1-4 has been tremendous for us (39.3 3PA for 9th in the league at 36.6% at 11th). Booker isn't a volume 3 point guy either which is a bad fit with Sabonis unless Booker wants to start taking more 3s (which he should, provided you expect his 31% 3P% to regress to his career 35%).

There's also the uh, defensive issues being added to our team that has built its entire identity off adopting the same principles the Thunder used to revolutionize defense last year (ok, fine, it's built off hustle).

Like Sunsbg said if Ott likes him then ok, fine.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#709 » by Qwigglez » Today 3:51 am

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Qwigglez wrote:Sabonis for Green and Richards works financially. Suns are a bit more balanced and not so guard heavy. I believe Sabonis doesn't like playing center that much anyway, so keeping Mark Williams is key here.

Gillespie / Goodwin / Bouyea
Booker / Allen / Brea
Brooks / Dunn / Fleming
Sabonis / Royce / Hayes-Davis
Williams / Oso / Maluach


I have no clue why we would trade Green. I would keep him over Booker.

I would however make Booker available and see what he fetches on the open market.


I just wanted to point out a potential trade to get Sabonis since Suns were rumored to be interested in him. I am interested in seeing what Jalen Green is capable of since we've only seen him for a game and a quarter in a Suns uniform. However, I could see the appeal of adding Sabonis to a roster that has Booker and Brooks since they are both 29 years old.

I'd consider trading Booker if the Suns had their draft picks. I even considered doing a three-team trade where Suns get Giannis, Booker goes to a third team.
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Post#710 » by TeamTragic » Today 4:00 am

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Qwigglez wrote:Sabonis for Green and Richards works financially. Suns are a bit more balanced and not so guard heavy. I believe Sabonis doesn't like playing center that much anyway, so keeping Mark Williams is key here.

Gillespie / Goodwin / Bouyea
Booker / Allen / Brea
Brooks / Dunn / Fleming
Sabonis / Royce / Hayes-Davis
Williams / Oso / Maluach


I have no clue why we would trade Green. I would keep him over Booker.

I would however make Booker available and see what he fetches on the open market.


I just wanted to point out a potential trade to get Sabonis since Suns were rumored to be interested in him. I am interested in seeing what Jalen Green is capable of since we've only seen him for a game and a quarter in a Suns uniform. However, I could see the appeal of adding Sabonis to a roster that has Booker and Brooks since they are both 29 years old.

I'd consider trading Booker if the Suns had their draft picks. I even considered doing a three-team trade where Suns get Giannis, Booker goes to a third team.


Sabonis doesn't move the needle enough. Booker for Giannis would be the best case scenario.

Good chance we get our picks replenished. Does Giannis put the Suns in the tax apron?
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#711 » by Rebound Mound » Today 10:53 am

Sabonis is a 5.
When he played PF with Turner in Indiana, it was a disaster.
As long as Indiana traded him and completed the roster in the way the NBA is played today, they went all the way up ending in the Finals 4-3 of last year.
He is a very good C on that he passes the ball, can screen for others, can even run the fast break... With no Jokic in the league, he would be the model. He lacks rim protection and some touching aility. He usually has issues with the fouls.

I believe we do not have any need to trade for a C while we have 3 on the roster. Areas of improvement could be SF and PF, clearly. Of another PG.
We clearly need a PF who can shoot or a SF who is long enough to defend PFs.

If New Orleans is going to go with Fears and Queen, then Murphy or Jones could be interesting. Any other long SF could be nice.
We should trade Richards and one of ONeale and Allen. I love how they are playing, but they are short for their positions and will never have the same trade value they hold now.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#712 » by Ghost of Kleine » Today 11:14 am

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Multiple 2nds? Sounds good, but who's really going to offer that for Richards now with how he's been playing??


With the apron rules and Richards lack of production this season, we might need to attach a second to move him - depending on what we're getting back.


Lol! Very true unfortunately.
What a strange turn of events in that he was playing so good for us initially. Probably happy to get a starting opportunity at times. And get out from playing behind Mark Williams.

Only to have us then trade for Mark Williams too and then he once again loses his starting role yet again to the same player and low key emotionally checks out and becomes disgruntled. Subsequently also affecting his trade value to a potential better situation.

One which he originally believed he had with us initially. Just really unfortunate circumstances.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

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As king shared above, Sabonis although intruiging, would take quite a bit ( of much we don't even have) to get. And even though we do need help to pick up the load during times of injury to Booker and/ or J Green, I'm not sure we have the salaries to make a deal work.

And we definitely don't have the draft assets either for what they'd be asking for in return.


Is sabonis well suited to play PF though? I don't like the idea of moving Williams for him.


He's more or less a fancier more skilled version of what we probably believe that we have with Oso. I'd much rather try to play him at power forward and let Brooks and Williams flank him at their respective positions defensively to maximize value if they traded for him.

And he would somewhat balance the roster more positionally. But I also wouldn't want to give up J Green for him and we likely don't have the assets the Kings would be looking for without including one of J Green, Booker or Brooks and Richards.

For my part, I see J Green as having much more long term value/ talent/ upside potential than Sabonis too.

And I'm very intrigued to actually see a larger sample size with him playing before considering a Sabonis trade were he could be a centerpiece inclusion.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#714 » by Ghost of Kleine » Today 11:52 am

As for trading Richards, two players that I see as good value in a trade for him to the Celtics for example could be:


1- CELTICS-

1- Sam Hauser. (Premised sign n trade at 20/2) salary matching.
Or
2- Nemias Queta and a 2nd.


2- MEMPHIS-

GG Jackson and Landale?
Or
Ty Jerome and a 2nd ( used to draft a big).

3- WIZARDS-

Either a straight trade of Richards for Cam Whitmore (and then play him off the bench in a 6th man scoring role). Whitmore would also make possibly trading Allen or O'neale more palatable.
Or
Richards for Marcus Bagley 3rd ( Backup center) and Tristin Vucevic ( plays 4/5 and is a 7'0 220 lb floor spacing big).

4- CHICAGO-

Richards/ O'neale/ TPE ( 3 million) for Vucevic ( play him next to Williams at power forward offensively).
Or
Richards for Zach Collins.
** Vucevic would give us a $21 million expiring contract to help create more cap flexibility.
Or
**Zach Collins would give us an $18 million expiring contract for more cap flexibility. Either would make it much easier towards resigning Gillespie and Williams.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#715 » by Ghost of Kleine » Today 12:14 pm

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Richards for Knecht and a 26' or 27' 2nd.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#716 » by Sunsdeuce » Today 2:04 pm

Sabonis for Booker solves a lot for this team. I don’t have the emotional love affair for Booker like some of you have. Booker has and always will be extremely overrated by Phoenix fans. I’d like to see more Suns team interest vs Booker interest in responses here.
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Richards for Knecht and a 26' or 27' 2nd.

Nah, solves nothing for this team. We don’t need more guards. I don’t even care about the seconds. A
Secondly, Knecht can’t even be given away at the point shows how bad his value is. I’m not giving up a single asset for him.
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Re: 2025-26 Season News & Discussion 

Post#718 » by NapoleonII » Today 4:51 pm

Lakers could have potentially gotten a championship last year if they hadn't voided the Williams trade.

Their huge misfire is to our benefit, Williams has been a revelation here in limited minutes and not playing back to backs.
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Post#719 » by sunsfan1o1 » Today 5:42 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Sabonis for Booker solves a lot for this team. I don’t have the emotional love affair for Booker like some of you have. Booker has and always will be extremely overrated by Phoenix fans. I’d like to see more Suns team interest vs Booker interest in responses here.

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Post#720 » by TeamTragic » Today 7:34 pm

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Richards for Knecht and a 26' or 27' 2nd.


Stealing Knecht from the Lakers would be perfect for this team.

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