Trade Thread (EPISODE VII: Which team wants our bad players for their good players?)

[NW]

Kuminga and Hield for DeRozan and Devin Carter

That'd be the "if all else fails" option

[NW]

starting to warm up to a MPJ trade[

Yeah he is shooting the ball really well. Steph+Jimmy+MPJ should be enough firepower to compete. Plus it forces Kerr to have a 6-10 guy on the floor.

Depends if they really want Kuminga, I suppose. They never showed much interest in the summer. JK, Moody, and Hield is about the only way to match salary (without including Draymond, that is.)

Probably flip Kuminga to a third team like the Kings then. They won't give up one of their own picks, but they got a Spurs swap they'd put in. Warriors put in their 2026. The Nets coach is a former Kings assistant that had a good relationship with Sabonis. Maybe expand the deal to include him.

[Anderson Hunt]

Kuminga and Hield for DeRozan and Devin Carter

That'd be the "if all else fails" option

My thoughts exactly. You're a reasonable man.

If they follow this up with a Moody and Podziemski for Bobby Portis trade, they'd have a very interesting old team:

PG - Butler - Anthony
SG - Curry - Curry
C --- Portis - Horford
PF - Green - Santos
SF - DeRozan - Richard

[rcg]

I tried this trade on Fanspo and it worked. Check it out.

Warriors send Kuminga and Podz to Kings.
Kings send Sabonis to Bucks.
Bucks send Turner to Warriors, Kuzma to Kings and send at least a FRP if not more to Kings.

[whatisacenter]

I tried this trade on Fanspo and it worked. Check it out.

Warriors send Kuminga and Podz to Kings.
Kings send Sabonis to Bucks.
Bucks send Turner to Warriors, Kuzma to Kings and send at least a FRP if not more to Kings.

Do the Bucks have FRP’s?

[NW]

I tried this trade on Fanspo and it worked. Check it out.

Warriors send Kuminga and Podz to Kings.
Kings send Sabonis to Bucks.
Bucks send Turner to Warriors, Kuzma to Kings and send at least a FRP if not more to Kings.

Sabonis isn't worth a first to the Bucks, much less more imo. Going from Turner to Sabonis is a lateral move at best.

Replace the Bucks with the Nets and I think there's a trade possibility:
Nets send MPJ and Haywood Highsmith to GS, send Terrance Mann to the Kings
Warriors send Kuminga and Podz to Kings, Moody and Hield and protected 2026 first to Nets
Kings send Sabonis and 2031 Kings/Spurs first swap to Nets, Keon Ellis to GS

[AirP.]

Wonder if GS makes a consolidation trade in the next day or 2 for a player(s) that might be more about adding a moveable player/salary in a larger Kuminga package trade?

[xdrta+]

Wonder if GS makes a consolidation trade in the next day or 2 for a player(s) that might be more about adding a moveable player/salary in a larger Kuminga package trade?

They would have to acquire a player by tomorrow (12/16) in order to aggregate him in a trade by the deadline.

[AirP.]

Wonder if GS makes a consolidation trade in the next day or 2 for a player(s) that might be more about adding a moveable player/salary in a larger Kuminga package trade?

They would have to acquire a player by tomorrow (12/16) in order to aggregate him in a trade by the deadline.

I was counting today as one of the 2, shouldn't have put it as the next day or 2, today or tomorrow is what I meant

[xdrta+]

Wonder if GS makes a consolidation trade in the next day or 2 for a player(s) that might be more about adding a moveable player/salary in a larger Kuminga package trade?

They would have to acquire a player by tomorrow (12/16) in order to aggregate him in a trade by the deadline.

I was counting today as one of the 2, shouldn't have put it as the next day or 2, today or tomorrow is what I meant

Gotcha. They better get moving.

[AirP.]

They would have to acquire a player by tomorrow (12/16) in order to aggregate him in a trade by the deadline.

I was counting today as one of the 2, shouldn't have put it as the next day or 2, today or tomorrow is what I meant

Gotcha. They better get moving.

If they want a "better" more expensive player in a Kuminga consolidation trade and I'm sure they already have their targets, they may need "playable" or potential players to send out other than just salaries to try to stack. They could do a multi-team trade of course but those get complicated.

I sure hope Kerr has been playing these lesser players on the roster to see who he could use in specific roles or combos (they tried Santos at center last night).

[DusterBuster]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

[whatisacenter]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

I think most fans here would be all over that trade if it weren't for Grant's player option in 27-28.

You would probably get flamed even more by your own team's fans

[DusterBuster]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

I think most fans here would be all over that trade if it weren't for Grant's player option in 27-28.

You would probably get flamed even more by your own team's fans

Yeah, I already have at least one who hates it because of Kuminga. Ideally for Portland, it would be for what you said, to get out of that final year of his deal and probably just waive JK, not keep him. In all honesty, I'm not a JK fan either, I think he's wildly overrated when you compare his talent to how much attention he's gotten regarding a possible trade. Maybe he puts it together somewhere else, but he kinda seems like a putz if you ask me.

I can understand the hesitation with that final year of Grant's deal, but he's still going to be productive when that hits and the Warriors will have literally next to nothing else at that point. They've got cap space, but they will need to hit the cap floor at some point. I would assume Butler probably is retired or just not resigned in summer 27. If Green is kept and isn't retired, I would assume they get him on a lower MLE deal for a season or two since his game is falling off the cliff right now and won't be any better by then. Steph is the biggest questionmark if he keeps playing past 2027.

That's a long way to say that even with Grant's final year, I fail to see how it's very detrimental to the Warriors in the long run. He'll help keep them slightly more competitive towards the tail end of this group, then he'll be a good sized expiring contract in a year you all will probably be tanking to rebuild anyways and need to hit some sort of a salary floor.

[wco81]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

I think most fans here would be all over that trade if it weren't for Grant's player option in 27-28.

You would probably get flamed even more by your own team's fans

Speaking of 27-28, this idea may be one to wait until the end of the season to assess.

Paul George just had a big game, scored 35 points vs. the Hawks, shot 7 of 9 from 3-point range. Says he's a lot healthier than last season and is getting better.

He has a $56.6 million player option in 2027-28.

See what kind of season he has and how Curry, Jimmy and the team does this season.

Steph, Jimmy and Green all have their contracts expire after 26-27 season. It seems many teams are trying to have a lot of cap space for the summer 2027 free agent class, like the Lakers and Clippers as well.

Potentially Jokic and Giannis could be free agent that summer. But Jokic is unlikely to leave the Nuggets and Giannis may already be traded by then.

I don't know why Lacob hasn't looked to extend Steph but if he has another All-NBA season and he's well on his way, what else is he going to do, just hit rebuild in 27-28 season?

Curry probably isn't going to retire if he keeps playing like this the rest of this season and next, even though he'll be over 39 in the summer of 2027. Barring injury or some steep decline, he's probably going to look to keep playing.

He said about a year or year and a half ago that he thinks he's as good as he's ever been. Well this season, he's averaging the third highest PPG in his career and shooting 48/41/92 on high volume.

So a year from now, Lacob will be under pressure to extend Curry, even if the team still remains a likely play-in team. If Curry looks as good as he's ever been and George has a bounce back season, maybe the Sixers look to move his contract since clearly that team is now on a Maxey and Edgecomb timeline.

George is 8 months younger than Jimmy and their contracts are in the same neighborhood. Jimmy is helpful but he hasn't been helpful enough to Steph, because the team's defensive numbers are pretty good but they s struggle on offense.

[DusterBuster]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

I think most fans here would be all over that trade if it weren't for Grant's player option in 27-28.

You would probably get flamed even more by your own team's fans

Speaking of 27-28, this idea may be one to wait until the end of the season to assess.

Paul George just had a big game, scored 35 points vs. the Hawks, shot 7 of 9 from 3-point range. Says he's a lot healthier than last season and is getting better.

He has a $56.6 million player option in 2027-28.

See what kind of season he has and how Curry, Jimmy and the team does this season.

Steph, Jimmy and Green all have their contracts expire after 26-27 season. It seems many teams are trying to have a lot of cap space for the summer 2027 free agent class, like the Lakers and Clippers as well.

Potentially Jokic and Giannis could be free agent that summer. But Jokic is unlikely to leave the Nuggets and Giannis may already be traded by then.

I don't know why Lacob hasn't looked to extend Steph but if he has another All-NBA season and he's well on his way, what else is he going to do, just hit rebuild in 27-28 season?

Curry probably isn't going to retire if he keeps playing like this the rest of this season and next, even though he'll be over 39 in the summer of 2027. Barring injury or some steep decline, he's probably going to look to keep playing.

He said about a year or year and a half ago that he thinks he's as good as he's ever been. Well this season, he's averaging the third highest PPG in his career and shooting 48/41/92 on high volume.

So a year from now, Lacob will be under pressure to extend Curry, even if the team still remains a likely play-in team. If Curry looks as good as he's ever been and George has a bounce back season, maybe the Sixers look to move his contract since clearly that team is now on a Maxey and Edgecomb timeline.

George is 8 months younger than Jimmy and their contracts are in the same neighborhood. Jimmy is helpful but he hasn't been helpful enough to Steph, because the team's defensive numbers are pretty good but they s struggle on offense.

I think that’s a really bad bet for the Warriors to think George’s knees are gonna hold up until that final year and they’re not just stuck with a $57mil player spending the final year of his deal in street clothes.

I get your thought, but if I were in the Warriors shoes, PG is a player I would stay a million miles away from.

[DAWill1128]

POR / GSW idea...

Grant and Rupert for Kuminga and Moody.

Grant would be a great fit in GS and Kerr would trust him more than both Kuminga and Moody combined as Grant was part of the Olympic team Kerr was a coach on that won Gold. Grant provides better athleticism and more reliable shooting than Kuminga.

Blazers don't really care much for Kuminga would be my guess, but they would be willing to kick the tires and then decide to keep or cut him in the summer.

Expecting this to get flamed to hell by you GS fans, so do what you will.

I think most fans here would be all over that trade if it weren't for Grant's player option in 27-28.

You would probably get flamed even more by your own team's fans

Yeah, I already have at least one who hates it because of Kuminga. Ideally for Portland, it would be for what you said, to get out of that final year of his deal and probably just waive JK, not keep him. In all honesty, I'm not a JK fan either, I think he's wildly overrated when you compare his talent to how much attention he's gotten regarding a possible trade. Maybe he puts it together somewhere else, but he kinda seems like a putz if you ask me.

I can understand the hesitation with that final year of Grant's deal, but he's still going to be productive when that hits and the Warriors will have literally next to nothing else at that point. They've got cap space, but they will need to hit the cap floor at some point. I would assume Butler probably is retired or just not resigned in summer 27. If Green is kept and isn't retired, I would assume they get him on a lower MLE deal for a season or two since his game is falling off the cliff right now and won't be any better by then. Steph is the biggest questionmark if he keeps playing past 2027.

That's a long way to say that even with Grant's final year, I fail to see how it's very detrimental to the Warriors in the long run. He'll help keep them slightly more competitive towards the tail end of this group, then he'll be a good sized expiring contract in a year you all will probably be tanking to rebuild anyways and need to hit some sort of a salary floor.

I thought the Warriors should've moved the CP3 expiring along with Kuminga to the Blazers for Grant a few years. Help the Blazers move off that contract after Dame left, and get a younger player on a rookie deal to bring in. People here hated the trade, this was when a lot of people here thought he was a future all-star and CP3 could get re-routed for a bigger fish.

[DAWill1128]

The Warriors should see about getting Moe Wagner or Jonathan Issac or maybe even both. Both guys able to play the 4/5.

[DusterBuster]

I thought the Warriors should've moved the CP3 expiring along with Kuminga to the Blazers for Grant a few years. Help the Blazers move off that contract after Dame left, and get a younger player on a rookie deal to bring in. People here hated the trade, this was when a lot of people here thought he was a future all-star and CP3 could get re-routed for a bigger fish.

Grant is a good fit for the Warrior to kind of move on slowly from Green as he ages out. He’s not nearly the defender, but not a bad defender by any means and he’s a good 3pt shooter, so he keeps the floor spread when paired with Steph. That also makes the middle lane easier for Jimmy.

And to be fair, I don’t even know if the Blazers would do this. I don’t know what they think of Kuminga or how desperate they are to get out of Grant’s contract. When he’s playing like he has this year, you can live with his contract size. I would probably do it to get out of the deal in case he has a bad season again randomly. I’d see what Kuminga is all about and why he gets so much attention, but I would likely be planning to letting him walk or flip him. I think, in may offer, Moody would be more likely to stick around in Portland than AK.

That said, with the Blazers ownership so wonky right now (3 more mo until sale final), hard to get any read on what the Blazers want to do.