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PG: The Scottie Barnes Show

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Re: PG: The Scottie Barnes Show 

Post#261 » by brownbobcat » Tue Dec 30, 2025 5:55 am

Indeed wrote:
pogi wrote:
Indeed wrote:
Sadly, Barnes playing outside of C is just average or below due to his shooting.
He will need to play C to make up his near-max contract.


Scottie can play center depends on the match up, he can't play against AD, Wemby or Jokic.


I don't even know if Barnes fans has their understanding in Barnes. Some say he can play C, some say he cannot play C.

So do we need a C who cannot space the floor? If we don't that's great, and we can look at the result.
If we do need a C who probably cannot space the floor, than he is not playing C, and why we are asking to add more C?

There are match up stats on NBA.com, and I am pretty clear on his ability, I think this is just not the case with people who I am arguing with.

It's not as if every non-C out there in the NBA is an elite shooter.

Everyone in the NBA has their flaws and Barnes is no exception, even though he's very good. All of the issues raised are the result of building a team "around" him as its best player. He's not that guy and he's not even that prototype. The comparisons to Draymond at C are pointless. Those GSW teams had HOF talent at other positions and also didn't run him out there as a full-time C. You could argue that Kevon Looney broke down pretty badly having to battle as the undersized C for so long.
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Re: PG: The Scottie Barnes Show 

Post#262 » by tsherkin » Tue Dec 30, 2025 9:13 am

Merit wrote:
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ConSarnit wrote:RJ has done an excellent job at taking a step back from his role with the Knicks. He doesn’t really force anything. He’s really done a great job at doing what the coaching staff has asked him to do. You have to give him props for adapting his game for the betterment of the team.


He's been receptive to what we've tried to do with him since he came over. Right now, he's playing in a way not too different from right after the trade when we still had spacing and other scorers. He's also improved as a passer, which is nice. Apart from his FT shooting and D (where you can at least see he's trying), he's been fantastic for us this season when he's been on the floor.


I’m truly surprised by his FT shooting. It’s gotta regress to the mean, no?


It's not out of the realm of possibility that he's improved to this point. Time will tell. For now, I'm just enjoying it.
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Re: PG: The Scottie Barnes Show 

Post#263 » by Got Nuffin » Tue Dec 30, 2025 12:03 pm

brownbobcat wrote:
Indeed wrote:
pogi wrote:
Scottie can play center depends on the match up, he can't play against AD, Wemby or Jokic.


I don't even know if Barnes fans has their understanding in Barnes. Some say he can play C, some say he cannot play C.

So do we need a C who cannot space the floor? If we don't that's great, and we can look at the result.
If we do need a C who probably cannot space the floor, than he is not playing C, and why we are asking to add more C?

There are match up stats on NBA.com, and I am pretty clear on his ability, I think this is just not the case with people who I am arguing with.

It's not as if every non-C out there in the NBA is an elite shooter.

Everyone in the NBA has their flaws and Barnes is no exception, even though he's very good. All of the issues raised are the result of building a team "around" him as its best player. He's not that guy and he's not even that prototype. The comparisons to Draymond at C are pointless. Those GSW teams had HOF talent at other positions and also didn't run him out there as a full-time C. You could argue that Kevon Looney broke down pretty badly having to battle as the undersized C for so long.


Yeah exactly, no chance Barnes at c is a long term solution although it may be part of a closing lineup. It would take so much of Barnes energy to match up with players sometimes half a foot bigger than him night to night and he probably would break down a lot earlier.

Plus his shooting has improved and he looks great when he gets a small his back - bbq chicken. Which wasn’t always the case in previous seasons. Barnes has become hella strong at his size. He is 100% a forward and a great one.
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Re: PG: The Scottie Barnes Show 

Post#264 » by djsunyc » Wed Dec 31, 2025 2:24 pm

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