[Stein] - Hawks More Open To Trading Trae Young; Would Include Zaccharie Risacher In Right Deal

Los_29 · Post #21 » by **Los_29** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 2:27 pm

Wow, the Hawks would include 10/3/1 Zaccharie Risacher? I’m sure the whole league will be calling them now. lol.

I don’t think you can win with Trae and he will be making a lot of money.

Pointgod · Post #22 » by **Pointgod** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 2:29 pm

bboyskinnylegs wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

he would likely opt into his large player option. If we did trade for him, expect an extension announcement like we did with Ingram.

Let him opt in. If he earns an extension at a lower rate, then so be it. If he walks then we’ve cleared a bunch of salary. It would be great if we could get Risacher with him. The upside alone might be worth it.

canz55 · Post #23 » by **canz55** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 3:39 pm

TimeForChange wrote:I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

Thats where I am as well 100%

ArthurVandelay · Post #24 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:28 pm

MoneyBall wrote:Very intriguing. Definitely a buy low opportunity. I'd really want to get to the bottom of why his offense has dropped off by so much in the last two seasons... at his best he's an All NBA talent. He wouldn't the greatest fit next to BI as they're both ball dominant guys. On the other hand, Trea and Scottie duo looks great on paper.

The nba has changed how the game is officiated over the last few seasons. The style of defensive play has become more physical in recent years, they are letting more contact go outside shooting attempts. Given his smaller stature, that is my opinion as to Trae’s production decline.

ontnut · Post #25 » by **ontnut** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:45 pm

Trade for both Trae and AD. I want neither. But that's the deal you'd have to make. Basically gut the team for Trae/Scottie/BI/AD.

Neither guy fits individually, but in theory, Trae and AD fit well with Scottie/BI.

Landomar · Post #26 » by **Landomar** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:46 pm

A lot of Trae Young's value comes from his ability to get to the free throw line. I would be very concerned about how this would go if he tried his foul baiting antics as a Raptor.

Raps in 4 · Post #27 » by **Raps in 4** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 4:46 pm

ishoy123 wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are trying to get AD from the Mavs, but the Mavs don't want Trae. Trae is better than IQ but will also be paid a lot more.

He's a better passer for sure, but IQ is a better shooter and defender.

Trae is a much better scorer than IQ. He'd be the best scorer on this entire team.

Having said that, the lack of defense is a problem.

MoneyBall · Post #28 » by **MoneyBall** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 5:24 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:Very intriguing. Definitely a buy low opportunity. I'd really want to get to the bottom of why his offense has dropped off by so much in the last two seasons... at his best he's an All NBA talent. He wouldn't the greatest fit next to BI as they're both ball dominant guys. On the other hand, Trea and Scottie duo looks great on paper.

The nba has changed how the game is officiated over the last few seasons. The style of defensive play has become more physical in recent years, they are letting more contact go outside shooting attempts. Given his smaller stature, that is my opinion as to Trae’s production decline.

Interesting take. You may very well be right. It does make me wonder why that hasn't really affected guys like Brunson or Ewards, though. Those guys are slightly bigger and more physical than Trea, so maybe not a great comparison.

Thaddy · Post #29 » by **Thaddy** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 5:26 pm

I hope they blow that load on Davis or Sabonis.

anotherhomer · Post #30 » by **anotherhomer** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 5:48 pm

I trade IQ for trae young, so there's a shorter contract...we really hamstring by iq contract

TheGeneral99 · Post #31 » by **TheGeneral99** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 6:00 pm

Trae is like a more dynamic offensive version of Quickley but with crappier defense and a horrendous contract.

ArthurVandelay · Post #32 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 6:38 pm

MoneyBall wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
MoneyBall wrote:Very intriguing. Definitely a buy low opportunity. I'd really want to get to the bottom of why his offense has dropped off by so much in the last two seasons... at his best he's an All NBA talent. He wouldn't the greatest fit next to BI as they're both ball dominant guys. On the other hand, Trea and Scottie duo looks great on paper.

The nba has changed how the game is officiated over the last few seasons. The style of defensive play has become more physical in recent years, they are letting more contact go outside shooting attempts. Given his smaller stature, that is my opinion as to Trae’s production decline.

Interesting take. You may very well be right. It does make me wonder why that hasn't really affected guys like Brunson or Ewards, though. Those guys are slightly bigger and more physical than Trea, so maybe not a great comparison.

Trae measured 6’1.75” in shoes at combine. Interesting his combine weight was 176 and his official nba weight today is 164. Going off a weight of 165….

Brunson has 25 pounds
Edwards has 2 inches and 60 pounds

I think they can better absorb the contact. That’s just my theory. I don’t follow Hawks enough to know for sure, but I do think it is relevant.

Combine injuries and wanting out after no contract extension offered this summer and it’s probably a more complete picture.

His stats really have dropped off this season.

Tor_Raps · Post #33 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 6:45 pm

Trae's offense is a lot better than IQs defense between the two. Problem is that we'd have to include RJ in the trade contractually and not sure any trade between the teams actually makes us better overall.

bluerap23 · Post #34 » by **bluerap23** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:00 pm

TimeForChange wrote:I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

Trae and Risacher for IQ and RJ works. Not sure I would do it but it is a little enticing to get out of IQ money and get a young cheap prospect. It would really clear up our cap in years to come.

LascelleL · Post #35 » by **LascelleL** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:06 pm

Trade for LaMelo maybe. Trae? no.

causal_fan · Post #36 » by **causal_fan** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:11 pm

How would posters feel about a IQ trade for Dejounte Murray - Murray is older but I think the better PG and I think his defense is better, contract is 2 years plus a player option vs 4 years for IQ, saves the Raptors about 1.7m this year - of course Murray is coming back from a major injury so that's a risk. New Orleans might like the younger player with upside.

ishoy123 · Post #37 » by **ishoy123** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:24 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
ishoy123 wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are trying to get AD from the Mavs, but the Mavs don't want Trae. Trae is better than IQ but will also be paid a lot more.

He's a better passer for sure, but IQ is a better shooter and defender.

Trae is a much better scorer than IQ. He'd be the best scorer on this entire team.

Having said that, the lack of defense is a problem.

The only aspect of scoring that he is superior at vs IQ is drawing fouls and getting to the line.

DreamTeam09 · Post #38 » by **DreamTeam09** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:29 pm

bluerap23 wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

Trae and Risacher for IQ and RJ works. Not sure I would do it but it is a little enticing to get out of IQ money and get a young cheap prospect. It would really clear up our cap in years to come.

we would have to resign Trae, if you don't wanna resign Trae, then you are capped out with no alternatives to a starting PG, unless you wanna go deeper into your player/prospect capital.

This whole, we have to get off of IQs money is none sense, nor is it too difficult to trade a 32mill player, that's two MLE players...

PushDaRock · Post #39 » by **PushDaRock** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:31 pm

TheGeneral99 wrote:Trae is like a more dynamic offensive version of Quickley but with crappier defense and a horrendous contract.

It's not really horrendous when he only has a player option for next season.

PushDaRock · Post #40 » by **PushDaRock** » Tue Dec 30, 2025 7:33 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Trae's offense is a lot better than IQs defense between the two. Problem is that we'd have to include RJ in the trade contractually and not sure any trade between the teams actually makes us better overall.

IQ, Ochai, Gradey for Trae works. I would not even consider adding draft capital other than a SRP or 2.