[Stein] - Hawks More Open To Trading Trae Young; Would Include Zaccharie Risacher In Right Deal

[PushDaRock]

I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

Trae and Risacher for IQ and RJ works. Not sure I would do it but it is a little enticing to get out of IQ money and get a young cheap prospect. It would really clear up our cap in years to come.

we would have to resign Trae, if you don't wanna resign Trae, then you are capped out with no alternatives to a starting PG, unless you wanna go deeper into your player/prospect capital.

This whole, we have to get off of IQs money is none sense, nor is it too difficult to trade a 32mill player, that's two MLE players...

I don't think any team that trades for him would extend him. He's been so bad this season that even if he recovers some, it's still very high likelihood he picks up his player option.

[DreamTeam09]

Trae and Risacher for IQ and RJ works. Not sure I would do it but it is a little enticing to get out of IQ money and get a young cheap prospect. It would really clear up our cap in years to come.

we would have to resign Trae, if you don't wanna resign Trae, then you are capped out with no alternatives to a starting PG, unless you wanna go deeper into your player/prospect capital.

This whole, we have to get off of IQs money is none sense, nor is it too difficult to trade a 32mill player, that's two MLE players...

I don't think any team that trades for him would extend him. He's been so bad this season that even if he recovers some, it's still very high likelihood he picks up his player option.

so now we have an expiring 45+m player next year that no1 wants & you don't wanna re-sign either ?

[Sandman88]

Trae is a head scratcher. Our offense would be worlds better, but defense would take a major step back and we’re not exactly great defensively now either. We also don’t have the personnel to cover for Trae’s lack of defense

[Syd-TK3]

No thanks

[bboyskinnylegs]

I think Garland is the best option to target. Contract is more expensive than IQ but not ridiculous, defense is bad but not Trae levels of turnstile. Provides spacing at least as good as IQ's, doesn't have to dominate the ball to be effective, gets into the paint, can actually be the primary ballhandler when needed, and creates quality looks for teammates.

With the Cavs currently having the most expensive roster in the league, and maybe looking for a shakeup, it might make some sense for them to make a trade for a more cost-controlled IQ who is better suited as a defender (relatively speaking) and floor spacer next to Mitchell, and on paper currently producing very similarly to IQ this season. As with everything, will depend on the asking price, but could be a win-win for both sides.

[dagger]

Trae is worst than IQ on defense but better offensively and overall. Issue with trading for Trae is he may opt out and leave in FA. Also no lob threat in TO to help with Trae's game.
Strictly salary wise, maybe IQ + RJ for Trae + Risacher depending on how much FO wants to keep RJ and like Risacher. It gets us just under the tax.

Why bother with that trade? It makes little sense except for getting us under the tax. If anything, it makes us worse.

[bluerap23]

we would have to resign Trae, if you don't wanna resign Trae, then you are capped out with no alternatives to a starting PG, unless you wanna go deeper into your player/prospect capital.

This whole, we have to get off of IQs money is none sense, nor is it too difficult to trade a 32mill player, that's two MLE players...

I don't think any team that trades for him would extend him. He's been so bad this season that even if he recovers some, it's still very high likelihood he picks up his player option.

so now we have an expiring 45+m player next year that no1 wants & you don't wanna re-sign either ?

I think you see how he plays with the team before deciding. Trae was an integral part of a conference finals team. You need to surround him with defenders, which we could do. It isn't a terrible trade if you believe in Risacher, it's isn't a great trade either. I probably pass on it because I love RJ. I really only want to trade for a top 10 player at this point. I don't hate IQ either. I like him more than Trae, but Trae does help this team's offence for sure.

[PushDaRock]

we would have to resign Trae, if you don't wanna resign Trae, then you are capped out with no alternatives to a starting PG, unless you wanna go deeper into your player/prospect capital.

This whole, we have to get off of IQs money is none sense, nor is it too difficult to trade a 32mill player, that's two MLE players...

I don't think any team that trades for him would extend him. He's been so bad this season that even if he recovers some, it's still very high likelihood he picks up his player option.

so now we have an expiring 45+m player next year that no1 wants & you don't wanna re-sign either ?

IQ + Gradey + Ochai + SRP or 2 is all I would even consider. It's an upgrade in talent that's not an ideal fit but you're not giving up that much. IQ's contract is probably neutral at best, so getting off his deal earlier can be looked as a positive too.

[MiamiSPX]

Trae is likely the physically weakest player in the league. His D is non-existent like Brunson, but even worse, which is saying something.

[DreamTeam09]

I think Garland is the best option to target. Contract is more expensive than IQ but not ridiculous, defense is bad but not Trae levels of turnstile. Provides spacing at least as good as IQ's, doesn't have to dominate the ball to be effective, gets into the paint, can actually be the primary ballhandler when needed, and creates quality looks for teammates.

With the Cavs currently having the most expensive roster in the league, and maybe looking for a shakeup, it might make some sense for them to make a trade for a more cost-controlled IQ who is better suited as a defender (relatively speaking) and floor spacer next to Mitchell, and on paper currently producing very similarly to IQ this season. As with everything, will depend on the asking price, but could be a win-win for both sides.

I'm a IQ fan, and although Garland is injury prone, or is about to get that label with his next injury, I think I would swing that deal. Maybe even a little sweetner too. Garland does give us that wiggle this team could use, along with the shooting

[CPT]

Trae to Dallas for AD has to happen just for comedy’s sake.

They would have taken a circuitous route to reversing the Luka/Trae draft deal.

I’m sure Mavs fans would appreciate the humour.

[Tor_Raps]

Trae's offense is a lot better than IQs defense between the two. Problem is that we'd have to include RJ in the trade contractually and not sure any trade between the teams actually makes us better overall.

IQ, Ochai, Gradey for Trae works. I would not even consider adding draft capital other than a SRP or 2.

Oh wow... id definitely do something like that.

Trae/ Shead
RJ/ Walter
Ingram/ Battle
Barnes/ CMB
Poeltl/ Mamu

[TheRaptor!]

They started losing games as soon as he came back and can’t win anymore lol

They started losing games before he actually came back but he definitely hasn't helped them turn it around, which a player with his salary should lol.

They lost twice to Detroit, once to Denver and once to the Clippers during that stretch but did very well without him otherwise. There’s a reason why they’re ready to trade him.

He has the talent to be a good offensive player for sure, but this team is so bad defensively. It’s interesting for sure.

if he wasnt flawed then he wouldnt be for trade at all

sometimes you just gotta identify players being undervalued and just go for it. No risk no reward

Brandon Ingram has been doing quite well for us.

[Tor_Raps]

They started losing games before he actually came back but he definitely hasn't helped them turn it around, which a player with his salary should lol.

They lost twice to Detroit, once to Denver and once to the Clippers during that stretch but did very well without him otherwise. There’s a reason why they’re ready to trade him.

He has the talent to be a good offensive player for sure, but this team is so bad defensively. It’s interesting for sure.

if he wasnt flawed then he wouldnt be for trade at all

sometimes you just gotta identify players being undervalued and just go for it. No risk no reward

Brandon Ingram has been doing quite well for us.

This team isnt gonna be selecting in the top 5 to get elite talent, nor are we gonna have free agents come here. Identifying buy low candidates like Ingram is going to be our path back to relevancy.

Good start so far this season but we'll need another big move to have any chance to win a round in the playoffs imo.

[Tha Cynic]

They lost twice to Detroit, once to Denver and once to the Clippers during that stretch but did very well without him otherwise. There’s a reason why they’re ready to trade him.

He has the talent to be a good offensive player for sure, but this team is so bad defensively. It’s interesting for sure.

if he wasnt flawed then he wouldnt be for trade at all

sometimes you just gotta identify players being undervalued and just go for it. No risk no reward

Brandon Ingram has been doing quite well for us.

This team isnt gonna be selecting in the top 5 to get elite talent, nor are we gonna have free agents come here. Identifying buy low candidates like Ingram is going to be our path back to relevancy.

Good start so far this season but we'll need another big move to have any chance to win a round in the playoffs imo.

If we can get him for IQ, Ochai and Dick that’s an easy decision. He’s one of the best passers (elite) in the league and IQ has been getting torched on defense anyway. Team also keeps CMB and Walter who have been part of the defensive identity that has been forming and winning us games. We can also withstand injuries to guys as we have another guy who can create. Not sure a trade like that makes sense for the Hawks though.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

if he wasnt flawed then he wouldnt be for trade at all

sometimes you just gotta identify players being undervalued and just go for it. No risk no reward

Brandon Ingram has been doing quite well for us.

This team isnt gonna be selecting in the top 5 to get elite talent, nor are we gonna have free agents come here. Identifying buy low candidates like Ingram is going to be our path back to relevancy.

Good start so far this season but we'll need another big move to have any chance to win a round in the playoffs imo.

If we can get him for IQ, Ochai and Dick that’s an easy decision. He’s one of the best passers (elite) in the league and IQ has been getting torched on defense anyway. Team also keeps CMB and Walter who have been part of the defensive identity that has been forming and winning us games. We can also withstand injuries to guys as we have another guy who can create. Not sure a trade like that makes sense for the Hawks though.

I just don't believe it would just take that just like I don't believe Trae is gonna be a championship calibre lead guard. There is no way this team is gonna consistently defend blow bys from Trae's man all game long.

[mtcan]

I would trade for Trae just to get an expiring contract. I would not resign him.

I agree. I would do it just for the opportunity to take on and try to develop Risacher. I would do everything possible to entice Trae to opt out of his contract just to get off of IQ's contract. I think IQ works better in Atlanta's line-up since he wouldn't be called upon to be a primary ball handler. He'd just be a gunner.

RIsacher is still only 20 years old...same age as CMB. I don't think Zac is a bad player and while only playing 24 mpg being 3rd or 4th option on offence and averaging about 12 ppg is what you'd expect especially playing with Trae Young, Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels who will likely take more of the shots because of their roles in the hierarchy.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Trae to Dallas for AD has to happen just for comedy’s sake.

They would have taken a circuitous route to reversing the Luka/Trae draft deal.

I’m sure Mavs fans would appreciate the humour.

now that would be fun

[Tor_Raps]

This team isnt gonna be selecting in the top 5 to get elite talent, nor are we gonna have free agents come here. Identifying buy low candidates like Ingram is going to be our path back to relevancy.

Good start so far this season but we'll need another big move to have any chance to win a round in the playoffs imo.

If we can get him for IQ, Ochai and Dick that’s an easy decision. He’s one of the best passers (elite) in the league and IQ has been getting torched on defense anyway. Team also keeps CMB and Walter who have been part of the defensive identity that has been forming and winning us games. We can also withstand injuries to guys as we have another guy who can create. Not sure a trade like that makes sense for the Hawks though.

I just don't believe it would just take that just like I don't believe Trae is gonna be a championship calibre lead guard. There is no way this team is gonna consistently defend blow bys from Trae's man all game long.

We are already dealing with IQ getting burned with his bad man defense but even worse team defense where he overhelps and/or runs away from players attacking him. The main difference is that Trae gets posted up on frequently whereas IQ can better hold his own.

The upgrade in offensive skill is much more than the downgrade in defense.

[mtcan]

Trae to Dallas for AD has to happen just for comedy’s sake.

They would have taken a circuitous route to reversing the Luka/Trae draft deal.

I’m sure Mavs fans would appreciate the humour.

now that would be fun

Kyrie AND Trae? That would be an interesting experiment.