[Shams] Raptors signing Mo Bamba

[WiggOuts]

He really deterred players at the rim. Usually people just go at Poeltl.

lol did we watch the same game?

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

[Thaddy]

lol did we watch the same game?

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

He was contesting shots he can't rebound too?

[Dennis 37]

lol did we watch the same game?

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

During Mo Bamba's 4 minutes IQs defence was awful. 4 vs 5 is going to make everyone less impressive.

[YogurtProducer]

lol did we watch the same game?

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

It’s disingenuous to say a guy who played bad, played bad?

Also this board man. We’re making excuses for a backup C whose “work was cut out for him” because he played 75% of his limited minutes with a IQ/Dick/Walter/Barnes lineup around him? That’s about as sheltered of a lineup as you could’ve given the guy, and even then he failed to secure multiple very easy rebounds a 7’1 guy should grab 99% of the time.

4 minutes. 0 point. 0 rebounds. 1 block. 2 fouls. -9.

It was a horrible game for him. And even his one stat (the block), ended up right in the hands of a Magic player, which led to an open 3, which led to Bamba allowing Bane to get an offensive rebound (that Bamba didn’t even try for), and Bamba then getting baited into a foul.

He was bad man. There’s a reason we signed him in late December. Because he’s bad.

[YogurtProducer]

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

During Mo Bamba's 4 minutes IQs defence was awful. 4 vs 5 is going to make everyone less impressive.

Oh **** come on you guys

[LBJKB24MJ23]

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

During Mo Bamba's 4 minutes IQs defence was awful. 4 vs 5 is going to make everyone less impressive.

Oh **** come on you guys

the team did play poorly before he got on the court
the team played poorly when he was on the court
the team player slightly better when he left the court but hard to say. law of averages worked out the rest of the way

[ontnut]

I didn't even see this signing news, but saw him on the court and was like WTF when did we sign Bamba?

[HangTime]

Playing him with both IQ and Gradey was a tough ask, right away.
I think Darko was just trying to stress test it.


I think his best lineup would be with
Scottie, CMB, Ja'kobe
and Shead or Mamu, depending on the look.

He can lock down the interior, and have others get the rebounds as he boxes out. So "bad rebounding" isn't an issue on his part.
everyone else can be a rover on the perimeter.


Also, in a case like this, if there's a live ball turnover. The guys can attack the rim, and if they don't a shot, they can kick it out to him for a trailing, open 3.

In the half court, he can roll or pop.

On the live ball turnovers, he can go from protecting the rim to trailing 3, and he can be the first one back on defence.

I think it's a lot easier than it seems.

He can probably average like 7 points, 2.5 blocks, constant rim deterance, and all the rebounding opportunities for everyone else (like Steven Adams did for Russell Westbrook.)


Defensively Mo is "boxed in" by the 4 perimeter defenders, and doesn't have to worry about anything outside middle of the paint, to 5 feet on either side of the paint.
Call it the "Mo Zone"

[nikster]

Man this boards ability to assess players is completely freaking ass

Bama got destroyed in his 4 minutes. A -9, didn’t grab a single board, and got destroyed down low by guys smaller than him.

Posters just get a hate on for certain players and aren’t rational with what they watch. No different than IQ/Shead we’re seeing in different threads.

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

It’s disingenuous to say a guy who played bad, played bad?

Also this board man. We’re making excuses for a backup C whose “work was cut out for him” because he played 75% of his limited minutes with a IQ/Dick/Walter/Barnes lineup around him? That’s about as sheltered of a lineup as you could’ve given the guy, and even then he failed to secure multiple very easy rebounds a 7’1 guy should grab 99% of the time.

4 minutes. 0 point. 0 rebounds. 1 block. 2 fouls. -9.

It was a horrible game for him. And even his one stat (the block), ended up right in the hands of a Magic player, which led to an open 3, which led to Bamba allowing Bane to get an offensive rebound (that Bamba didn’t even try for), and Bamba then getting baited into a foul.

He was bad man. There’s a reason we signed him in late December. Because he’s bad.

There was that other play where he contested multiple shots at the rim because Orlando kept getting offensive rebound and eventually scored. It looks good, but that first rebound should have been his in the first place.

Obviously he has the ability to protect the rim, but there is a reason this guy has been a fringe player for years and nobody was willing to pick him up on even a guaranteed minimum half way through the season.

He may end up decent enough for us given how desperate we are for true size, but this game didn't do anything to inspire confidence

[nikster]

Playing him with both IQ and Gradey was a tough ask, right away.
I think Darko was just trying to stress test it.


I think his best lineup would be with
Scottie, CMB, Ja'kobe
and Shead or Mamu, depending on the look.

He can lock down the interior, and have others get the rebounds as he boxes out. So "bad rebounding" isn't an issue on his part.
everyone else can be a rover on the perimeter.


Also, in a case like this, if there's a live ball turnover. The guys can attack the rim, and if they don't a shot, they can kick it out to him for a trailing, open 3.

In the half court, he can roll or pop.

On the live ball turnovers, he can go from protecting the rim to trailing 3, and he can be the first one back on defence.

I think it's a lot easier than it seems.

He can probably average like 7 points, 2.5 blocks, constant rim deterance, and all the rebounding opportunities for everyone else (like Steven Adams did for Russell Westbrook.)


Defensively Mo is "boxed in" by the 4 perimeter defenders, and doesn't have to worry about anything outside middle of the paint, to 5 feet on either side of the paint.
Call it the "Mo Zone"

Those averages would basically be the best season of his career. What makes you think he can do that? And unlike Steven adams, Mo does not box out. He's just bad at rebounding, and does not have the record of improving his trams rebounding rate that Adams does.

These are crazy expectations for a guy that cant get a guaranteed deal

[SFour]

People just need to treat Bamba like he's a buyout player....best case scenario he's a sneaky good pickup like Mamu....most likely scenario is he's just insurance backup if Poeltl is ever out, or if Mamu ever gets injured.....like a Jontay or Orlando Robinson.

[treerollins]

i still need to watch the orlando game but mogbo must be insulted that we brought this guy in.

mogbo ends last season with the triple double, has the game winner in preseason then gets zero run to start the year, sent to the 905, they go on a crazy undefeated streak and then his team signs the guy from the other g league team after their first loss and gives him the backup center role lmao.

[sprockets]

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

It’s disingenuous to say a guy who played bad, played bad?

Also this board man. We’re making excuses for a backup C whose “work was cut out for him” because he played 75% of his limited minutes with a IQ/Dick/Walter/Barnes lineup around him? That’s about as sheltered of a lineup as you could’ve given the guy, and even then he failed to secure multiple very easy rebounds a 7’1 guy should grab 99% of the time.

4 minutes. 0 point. 0 rebounds. 1 block. 2 fouls. -9.

It was a horrible game for him. And even his one stat (the block), ended up right in the hands of a Magic player, which led to an open 3, which led to Bamba allowing Bane to get an offensive rebound (that Bamba didn’t even try for), and Bamba then getting baited into a foul.

He was bad man. There’s a reason we signed him in late December. Because he’s bad.

There was that other play where he contested multiple shots at the rim because Orlando kept getting offensive rebound and eventually scored. It looks good, but that first rebound should have been his in the first place.

Obviously he has the ability to protect the rim, but there is a reason this guy has been a fringe player for years and nobody was willing to pick him up on even a guaranteed minimum half way through the season.

He may end up decent enough for us given how desperate we are for true size, but this game didn't do anything to inspire confidence

When you are contesting shots, you automatically get less rebounds. That's how it works. If you're jumping at the shooter, it's hard to land, do a 180, instantly jump, and happen to have the ball in front of you.

[FOB]

i still need to watch the orlando game but mogbo must be insulted that we brought this guy in.

mogbo ends last season with the triple double, has the game winner in preseason then gets zero run to start the year, sent to the 905, they go on a crazy undefeated streak and then his team signs the guy from the other g league team after their first loss and gives him the backup center role lmao.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think it's an apples to apples comparison. Mogbo isn't a true center, and that's what we needed after Jak got injured. Imagine if they now had called up Mogbo to play C, or put Scottie, Mamu, or CMB on C while Mogbo plays PF minutes. Everyone would be screaming their lungs out abou the FO not realizing that we need a true paint presence. It's not Mogbo vs. Bamba, it's Mogbo vs. Scottie, Mamu and CMB - and he's clearly behind all of them.

For Bamba, I'm glad we have him but I don't expect much. He's been on what 7 teams in 7 years and went from top 10 pick to the G league in that time, as much as I'd love a redemption story I think it's unlikely he suddenly figures it out and becomes a serviceable backup. Worth a try though.

[polo007]

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[YogurtProducer]

It’s disingenuous to say a guy who played bad, played bad?

Also this board man. We’re making excuses for a backup C whose “work was cut out for him” because he played 75% of his limited minutes with a IQ/Dick/Walter/Barnes lineup around him? That’s about as sheltered of a lineup as you could’ve given the guy, and even then he failed to secure multiple very easy rebounds a 7’1 guy should grab 99% of the time.

4 minutes. 0 point. 0 rebounds. 1 block. 2 fouls. -9.

It was a horrible game for him. And even his one stat (the block), ended up right in the hands of a Magic player, which led to an open 3, which led to Bamba allowing Bane to get an offensive rebound (that Bamba didn’t even try for), and Bamba then getting baited into a foul.

He was bad man. There’s a reason we signed him in late December. Because he’s bad.

There was that other play where he contested multiple shots at the rim because Orlando kept getting offensive rebound and eventually scored. It looks good, but that first rebound should have been his in the first place.

Obviously he has the ability to protect the rim, but there is a reason this guy has been a fringe player for years and nobody was willing to pick him up on even a guaranteed minimum half way through the season.

He may end up decent enough for us given how desperate we are for true size, but this game didn't do anything to inspire confidence

When you are contesting shots, you automatically get less rebounds. That's how it works. If you're jumping at the shooter, it's hard to land, do a 180, instantly jump, and happen to have the ball in front of you.

Sure, but you should get more than 0.

Bamba is just a wild player. Constantly out of position defensively, chases blocks (and gets a lot to, but also ends up leaving his dude open as a consequence), and looks dumb as rocks on both ends.

Best case is we teach him to never jump. Reality is he probably isn’t even playing minutes for us unless we are missing multiple pieces.

Hope I’m wrong, but odds are he’s not on our roster next year (and very likely, not on anyone’s roster).

[Thaddy]

The best thing about Bamba is that CMB will be a 3/4. We should have one of CMB, Barnes or Ingram always on the floor.

[mdenny]

i still need to watch the orlando game but mogbo must be insulted that we brought this guy in.

mogbo ends last season with the triple double, has the game winner in preseason then gets zero run to start the year, sent to the 905, they go on a crazy undefeated streak and then his team signs the guy from the other g league team after their first loss and gives him the backup center role lmao.

This is a good point. I hadnt thought of it but yah....this might kinda signal that the raps have given up on mogbo. If we were that desperate....and i think we only gave him one chance? At least i can only remember him getting one chance.

Maybe Mogbo is destined to be a minimum contract guy....15th man on the roster used in practises and such. I get the sense he's a good locker room guy tho.

[Boogie!]

i still need to watch the orlando game but mogbo must be insulted that we brought this guy in.

mogbo ends last season with the triple double, has the game winner in preseason then gets zero run to start the year, sent to the 905, they go on a crazy undefeated streak and then his team signs the guy from the other g league team after their first loss and gives him the backup center role lmao.

Mogbo hasn’t shown enough to really get consistent minutes imo. His finishing ability sucks, doesn’t have a jump shot and his athleticism isn’t explosive either. He’s also not this high motor, fast twitch hustle guy… to me he’s like a poor man’s Barnes without any of the intangibles.

Bamba is actually way more talented and he has a much higher ceiling than Mogbo. There’s a reason he was a top 10 pick.

[Blazing_royale]

i'm tired of us having 6'7 guys playing center with no paint presense. This is a step in the right direction