[Shams] Raptors signing Mo Bamba

[DreamTeam09]

let's keep in mind he arrived in Toronto at 7am that same day, if he can functionally stay on the court for us, that's a boost for us simply by his skillset & measureables

[mdenny]

to say he got destroyed when he only played 4 minutes seems disingenuous, he was a presence for a couple plays changing shots and blocking a couple. He was on the floor with both Gradey and IQ(having a terrible game) so he had his work cut out for him. He obviously didnt have any familiarity with the team at this point so I wouldnt even judge anything that happened seriously, they gave him a taste and he was definitely more noticeable then any Robinson/Castleton mins i remember

During Mo Bamba's 4 minutes IQs defence was awful. 4 vs 5 is going to make everyone less impressive.

Oh **** come on you guys

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

[Dennis 37]

During Mo Bamba's 4 minutes IQs defence was awful. 4 vs 5 is going to make everyone less impressive.

Oh **** come on you guys

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Christmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

[YogurtProducer]

Oh **** come on you guys

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Chtistmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

Well when you see whatever you went when you watch the video, you can convince yourself that anything is a fact. Mo Bamba sucked because Bamba sucks. Not IQs fault he can’t grab a rebound

This board, including you, is horrible at evaluating what PG defence looks like. There is some crazy expectation that they should keep everyone in front of you. Maybe this was true and possible in 2003, but in 2025 absolutely every PG is getting blown by multiple times a game. Because guys are to skilled, and to fast, and PGs need to respect the 3 to much to sag.

The fact yall still call FVV a backup PG kind of tells all. He was a luxury as a backup, but he was always better than a lot of the leagues starters. Just got spoiled by arguably the deepest team of all time in 2019 with starting caliber guys on the bench.

[Dennis 37]

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Chtistmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

Well when you see whatever you went when you watch the video, you can convince yourself that anything is a fact. Mo Bamba sucked because Bamba sucks. Not IQs fault he can’t grab a rebound

This board, including you, is horrible at evaluating what PG defence looks like. There is some crazy expectation that they should keep everyone in front of you. Maybe this was true and possible in 2003, but in 2025 absolutely every PG is getting blown by multiple times a game. Because guys are to skilled, and to fast, and PGs need to respect the 3 to much to sag.

The fact yall still call FVV a backup PG kind of tells all. He was a luxury as a backup, but he was always better than a lot of the leagues starters. Just got spoiled by arguably the deepest team of all time in 2019 with starting caliber guys on the bench.

It wasn't about being blown by. That happens.

You say we are far too critical of pg play, whereas I say we are far too critical of the lower paid players. If Mo Bamba was worth 32 million, he wouldn't be on our team. He's going to have flaws.

Scottie catches a lot of flak when his energy or drive is not there in certain games. Are other highly paid players immune from criticism? The standard for IQ should be a lot higher than that of Bamba.

You think if he was starting for the Knicks for 32 million, those fans wouldn't be critical when criticism is justified?

[mdenny]

Oh **** come on you guys

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Christmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

They weren't tears of joy bro. He went on a 45 minute rant with tears in his eyes on how Houston ownership had done a huge disservice to their fanbase and how it wasn't fair to the city....it would set back their franchise for a decade. And that they were the worst franchise in nba history. I've watched it multiple times because it was hilarious. I'm not exagerating. He said about rockets ownership "how do you look in the mirror" with tears in his eyes.

He was literally saddened that Fred's life wasn't going to be ruined. He was so full of hate for the player that he was mad at a team for giving them money. Which is insane. And he was embarrassingly wrong.

[mdenny]

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Chtistmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

Well when you see whatever you went when you watch the video, you can convince yourself that anything is a fact. Mo Bamba sucked because Bamba sucks. Not IQs fault he can’t grab a rebound

This board, including you, is horrible at evaluating what PG defence looks like. There is some crazy expectation that they should keep everyone in front of you. Maybe this was true and possible in 2003, but in 2025 absolutely every PG is getting blown by multiple times a game. Because guys are to skilled, and to fast, and PGs need to respect the 3 to much to sag.

The fact yall still call FVV a backup PG kind of tells all. He was a luxury as a backup, but he was always better than a lot of the leagues starters. Just got spoiled by arguably the deepest team of all time in 2019 with starting caliber guys on the bench.

Yep. Ppl can't tell the difference between a blow-by and lock and trail. Trae is a good example. Almost every guard in the league uses lock and trail on him. Maxey is another example. If you try to stay in front of him....you are commiting a foul.

With a blowby....the defender is out of the play. With lock and trails....you can at least direct the player to go in a specified direction. Barnes was doing it with Murray tonight. He was letting Murray pass him to the right (ie murray's left).

[Landomar]

I would like to see Bamba get 10-15 minutes off the bench to see what he can do, and Battle should definitely be playing.

CMB / Bamba
Barnes / Mamu
Ingram / Battle
Barrett / Walter or Agbaji or Dick
Quickley / Shead

I'd try that, and would have 2 of Quckley/Barrett/Ingram/Barnes in the game at all times.

[OhCanada]

I hate Mo Bamba as a player. Talented but lazy.

Also, Poeltl’s back must be cooked.

History would suggest that the outcome of this signing will be Bamba becoming a cheerleader on the bench. Darko has a very short leash and Bamba has a very short attention span. This signing feels like Bobby and company telling us to stfu and stop asking for a Center upgrade. I don't think they are even interested in finding a replacement for Poeltl. As long as Scottie, CMB and Sandro don't refuse to play the position it does seem like Darko also wants to play this way.

But hey. He's got a 7'10 wingspan, he can move his feet, he can shoot. He wouldn't have been my 1st choice of all the bad options but he still has that incredible upside and potential to play multiple roles...Its not just his effort though its like his reaction time, his hands and his balance and gait. Doesn't play with force. Same things I can't stand about Poeltl tbh.

[MEDIC]

I hate Mo Bamba as a player. Talented but lazy.

Also, Poeltl’s back must be cooked.

History would suggest that the outcome of this signing will be Bamba becoming a cheerleader on the bench. Darko has a very short leash and Bamba has a very short attention span.

We'll see what happens, but....

I was watching Bamba's body language in the pre-game warmup, on the bench , etc.

He looked a little cocky and a little too comfortable at times. Dude, you just came from the GLeague. You were a high pick, you are over 7 feet tall/ athletic, you are a veteran & you are in the middle of your prime athletically. There is a reason you don't have an NBA job & it isn't because of your size, athleticism or experience.

I question if he is a little bit thick. Someone that doesn't really have self awareness or know his place. It made me have one of those "ah-ha" moments........"that's probably why he isn't in the league". Just hasn't had the right attitude or work ethic & takes things for granted. There may also be something else going on upstairs.....

People in your position need to just put your head down & go to work. Earn the respect of your coach and teammates by showing them how serious you are about getting better and sticking with this team. Just stay focused and work hard.

Be friendly, but don't act too comfortable.

He seems like one of those guys that would benefit from one of those hard talks from Masai.

[Pointgod]

Wait till you see that he can stretch the floor

[LoveMyRaps]

Don’t understand why he didn’t play last night

We signed him for the vibes?

[Boardbreaker]

Don’t understand why he didn’t play last night

We signed him for the vibes?

Yeah seriously. JV was abusing them inside that first half and we didn't even try Bamba out there on him for a couple minutes at least.

[LoveMyRaps]

Don’t understand why he didn’t play last night

We signed him for the vibes?

Yeah seriously. JV was abusing them inside that first half and we didn't even try Bamba out there on him for a couple minutes at least.

Darko gonna Darko

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Don’t understand why he didn’t play last night

We signed him for the vibes?

Yeah seriously. JV was abusing them inside that first half and we didn't even try Bamba out there on him for a couple minutes at least.

Darko gonna Darko

Inexcusable. There's no way JV should be scoring 17 points in 23 minutes. This was absolutely the difference in the ball game.

[LoveMyRaps]

Yeah seriously. JV was abusing them inside that first half and we didn't even try Bamba out there on him for a couple minutes at least.

Darko gonna Darko

Inexcusable. There's no way JV should be scoring 17 points in 23 minutes. This was absolutely the difference in the ball game.

Don't know how anyone can defend Darko when he does things like this. That's why I call him Mr."If it's broke, don't fix it!"

[traps#10]

Darko forgot we signed Mo? Odd he played in the first game and not in the 2nd when Mamu was struggling

[Tor_Raps]

Darko is a complete idiot. Rather than trying to give this guy a shot, we ran a bunch of super small line that got killed like they have been all season. Bobby/Masai were stupid hiring this guy over Jordi Fernandez.

[canada_dry]

Only a masochist would sign up to be the raptors starting point guard. It kinda makes me wonder why this is?

My best guess is that as social media became more involved....the most glaring errors are always punished far more than passiveness or deferral. And PGs simply can't defer. So they are burdened with a specific responsibility that is most obvious to observe when you are struggling.

I don't think it's specific to Toronto fans but i could be wrong about that. It's actually crazy how ppl don't notice the pattern. I am absolutely positive that Pensare and his groupies are relentlessly torturing IQ right now. Do they never ask themselves "if i hate EVERY starting point guard on my team than maybe it's me?"

Pensare spent years toxically attacking fred. He was so passionate about his fred hate that he almost cried when Houston signed him and was FURIOUS that someone in the league thought Fred was valuable.He liked Dennis initially, then turned on him. Again, weirdly hateful in a personal way. Then he did it AGAIN to Davion (which apparently got to Davion through his peoples at one point). These were personal attacks btw.

I will bet a steak dinner that if we pulled up the Lowry hate threads from 10 years ago that the Messiah acct is prominent in those too.

I should go see what he's saying about IQ because Pensare loved getting him in the trade. I rememeber that. He was ready to hate on RJ but he loved IQ. I bet he's turned against him too. And i bet it's also weird and personal.

It is too predictable. The EXACT same thing in the fanbase will happen to Shead if he becomes the starter because of injury or trade.

There is opinion and then there is evidence. You can dump all over someone's opinion or bias. That is perfectly fair, but you can't dispute evidence.

Lots of people are dumping on LeBron for his awful defensive play in Christmas day. Until you see the video of him playing like crap it's just opinion or bias, but the video evidence demonstrates that LeBron's lack of effort was not just opinion, but fact.

People were dumping on Mo Bamba for his mixed results during his 4 minutes. That was opinion. What did the video show? The video showed that during that 4 minutes IQ repeatedly lost his man on defence. It's not opinion when the video shows the evidence. Mo was targeted when he wasn't the weak link.

Did Pensare cry when Fred left? Yes. Tears of joy. Fred was fabulous as a backup or playing off ball with Kyle. Once he was the man, the constant drives onto 2 or three taller defenders got old really fast. I don't need anyone's opinion to tell me it was time for Fred to go. Just watching him play was enough. Masai said it himself. Too much selfishness.

They weren't tears of joy bro. He went on a 45 minute rant with tears in his eyes on how Houston ownership had done a huge disservice to their fanbase and how it wasn't fair to the city....it would set back their franchise for a decade. And that they were the worst franchise in nba history. I've watched it multiple times because it was hilarious. I'm not exagerating. He said about rockets ownership "how do you look in the mirror" with tears in his eyes.

He was literally saddened that Fred's life wasn't going to be ruined. He was so full of hate for the player that he was mad at a team for giving them money. Which is insane. And he was embarrassingly wrong.

Do you have a link? Lol

[Tripod]

Turned into a FVV thread because 1 guy said IQ played poor defensively during Mo's minutes.

Funny

I think Mo should get a chance when we are facing bigger C's especially when that guy is cooking us inside. Isn't that why you got him? Use when Yak is out and Mamu/others can't handle the size inside.