PG: 4th Quarter Defence!

[ArthurVandelay]

Just upgrade the bench scoring and I’ll be happy. Bring in a proven wing that can make open 3s and just not be completely useless. Who is realistically attainable?

Perhaps a BATTLE tested player?

(See what I did there)

A wing off the bench that can consistently hit open 3s changes a lot for this team.

[Thaddy]

CMB looks like garbage as the C. He probably needs to play with a big similar to Barnes. He doesn't have the creation ability and attention Barnes does though.

This is tough. We don't benefit from an offensive C but it seems like Maluach might have been better for us. I doubt neither of these guys amount to much but the fit made a lot more sense.

Bamba looks like a scrub too.

[lobosloboslobos]

I’ll take Matt + Jack over every other broadcaster in the league.

really? and you've listened to them? Jim Petersen in Minny? Clyde in New York? the Charlotte guys whatever their names are?

to each their own i guess...

someone posted this last year and to the extent of my limited knowledge it seems generally accurate to me (tho i think swirsk deserves better)

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

We're too talented when everyone plays. Imagine what this team looks like when Jak comes back healthy.

imagine if they can upgrade to an allstar at the PG or C spot....while keeping the core of Barnes, Ingram, RJ

legit all we need, we could make an ECF run with the core 3 + an allstar PG or C. Now i don't know what allstar C we could trade for... but a realistic option i see is Garland at PG. Can throw Lamelo in there as well - can turn him into a winning player, the talent can't be ignored

[Syd-TK3]

I’ll take Matt + Jack over every other broadcaster in the league.

really? and you've listened to them? Jim Petersen in Minny? Clyde in New York? the Charlotte guys whatever their names are?

to each their own i guess...

someone posted this last year and to the extent of my limited knowledge it seems generally accurate to me (tho i think swirsk deserves better)

No chance Miami and Lakers are S
Miami guy can't even attempt to properly say Mamu's name. I'd put Charlotte S before them easily

Also Detroit old guy talks like he commentating golf

[ImaBeatDatAzz]

I’ll take Matt + Jack over every other broadcaster in the league.

really? and you've listened to them? Jim Petersen in Minny? Clyde in New York? the Charlotte guys whatever their names are?

to each their own i guess...

someone posted this last year and to the extent of my limited knowledge it seems generally accurate to me (tho i think swirsk deserves better)

the only ones deserving of an S are the Charlotte guys.. everyone else falls below them lol. not even up for debate

[sbsat]

Great game. Excellent contributions from nearly everyone. Man, the Hawks are bad. Who assembled that team?

2nd game of back to back and missing their starting C. they need to trade for a better/more reliable big than KP

KP missing time is something he’s dealt with his whole career though. They knew what they were getting.

Back to backs are hard but they are a bad team. That’s the biggest issue.

Great game. Excellent contributions from nearly everyone. Man, the Hawks are bad. Who assembled that team?

Ex trae the hawks have a team man. Jalen johnson is nasty. They just ran out of gas today from the b2b

Where are the wins? What’s their record? It’s most certainly not a good team.

Coming into today the hawks were 15-11 without trae.

[JCP11]

CMB looks like garbage as the C. He probably needs to play with a big similar to Barnes. He doesn't have the creation ability and attention Barnes does though.

This is tough. We don't benefit from an offensive C but it seems like Maluach might have been better for us. I doubt neither of these guys amount to much but the fit made a lot more sense.

Bamba looks like a scrub too.

it's been what, 35 games? Can we wait afew seasons before making conclusions on young players?

[C_Money]

There are some horrible commentators out there and Matt and Jack are nowhere near as bad. They’re in the top 10 easily.

[sbsat]

Clyde and the knicks broadcast is my fave.

[Boardbreaker]

There are some horrible commentators out there and Matt and Jack are nowhere near as bad. They’re in the top 10 easily.

It's a pretty low bar tbh. Funny enough I actually kind of enjoy the celtics feed now that Scalabrine's replaced Heinsohn.

[FOB]

2nd game of back to back and missing their starting C. they need to trade for a better/more reliable big than KP

KP missing time is something he’s dealt with his whole career though. They knew what they were getting.

Back to backs are hard but they are a bad team. That’s the biggest issue.

Ex trae the hawks have a team man. Jalen johnson is nasty. They just ran out of gas today from the b2b

Where are the wins? What’s their record? It’s most certainly not a good team.

Coming into today the hawks were 15-11 without trae.

That puts them at a slightly worse win rate than the raps are for the season (57% vs 58%), and the raps have been without one or two starters for most of the season. (and maybe their 2-9 record with trae should count a little bit as well...)

[Jakay]

Going to the game on Monday. I hope the crowd will be better than this one.

The Hawks broadcast was raving about the fan noise, "said it was non stop loud in there"

People seem to think TV broadcasts should drown out commentary and just be crowd noise lol

Which is really great. A lot of streams used to do this. Loved it.

Was nicer to listen than Jack "I won't be watching on Monday but best of luck"

[PushDaRock]

If RJ is the offence, then yes

Edit: he isn’t the offence but he is the special ingredient, the secret sauce

RJ is the connector on offense. He doesn't hold the ball, he applies pressure, and his ability to make a quick decision to either score or pass the ball unlocks a new dimension for us offensively.

Hopefully the RJ haters shut up now, and realize just how valuable he is. RJ is a steady guy you can consistently rely on to give you 20/6/4 every night without pounding the ball.

I agree with all that. I’d add he also doesn’t need the ball to score. He’s elite at cutting, getting out in transition, and moving to the open spot on the 3 point line.

There was a lot of discussion about how RJ's cutting numbers weren't that good last season and people dismissing how good of an off ball player he actually is. I think this year he's done more cutting in this offense but that's in addition to how good he is driving when he catches the ball on the move which has always been the case. He's just that outlet they find a lot in this offense without running many plays for him, the ball just finds him when it needs to and he uses his scoring instincts to put the ball in the bucket.

[PushDaRock]

This era of NBA is different. Feels like the development window is longer in the last 10-15 years.

This is an EXCELLENT point and there has to be some data to show it. If true.....it has all sorts of ramnifications in team building.

he could always score the ball, he wasn't gonna stick like that being drafted at 17 tho, he's definitely breaking out this year tho

Obviously he didn't just develop this much in one off season so he's had this ability for a little while now probably but it's a massive jump nonetheless in a totally different role.

[sbsat]

KP missing time is something he’s dealt with his whole career though. They knew what they were getting.

Back to backs are hard but they are a bad team. That’s the biggest issue.



Where are the wins? What’s their record? It’s most certainly not a good team.

Coming into today the hawks were 15-11 without trae.

That puts them at a slightly worse win rate than the raps are for the season (57% vs 58%), and the raps have been without one or two starters for most of the season. (and maybe their 2-9 record with trae should count a little bit as well...)

The raptors fully healthy have a team too. Hobestly they do. The hawks with trae is a big black hole kn that roster and if they can move him for some viable pieces i think they have a solid platform to build on

[MEDIC]

This NAW leap really came out of nowhere, just not often you see a strictly 3&D guy transform into a decent on ball guy 7 seasons in.

This era of NBA is different. Feels like the development window is longer in the last 10-15 years.

It depends on how hard these guys work. I am a firm believer that if these guys want it bad enough, study the game, study the moves, & work their azzes.off trying to master them, they will eventually figure it out. We don't kmow what kind.of work NAW has been putting in over the years. He has a superatar cousin that I am sure he admires & draws inspiration from.

We have seen a number of players pass through here that take a big step post 25 yo.

[Indeed]

If we can trade our useless pieces to upgrade the PG spot and get a solid 6th man scorer we'll be in good hands.

Assuming Yak is fine

Easy to say in getting ride of our existing contract.
I think the Bulls may have some 3&D point guards in expiring, but I don't think we would give them a pick for taking Quickley, and unsure we want to take on a contract like Patrick Williams.

Thats not upgrading the PG spot, im talkin bout Ja Ball or Trae lol

You are either downgrading the C spot or trading both guards for one.
We are not going way over the tax, and we cannot match salary without giving more, there is no other way.

[MEDIC]

We're too talented when everyone plays. Imagine what this team looks like when Jak comes back healthy.

imagine if they can upgrade to an allstar at the PG or C spot....while keeping the core of Barnes, Ingram, RJ

That's my hope. You keep these 3 guys together & try to find a way to land a big fish at one of those two positions. It doesn't even have to be a true star. A vet tbat is a competent two way player (bordeline allstar).

[Indeed]

We're too talented when everyone plays. Imagine what this team looks like when Jak comes back healthy.

imagine if they can upgrade to an allstar at the PG or C spot....while keeping the core of Barnes, Ingram, RJ

That's my hope. You keep these 3 guys together & try to find a way to land a big fish at one of those two positions. It doesn't even have to be a true star. A vet tbat is a competent two way player (bordeline allstar).

Indeed, salary doesn't work for having 3 near-max (25% of salary) with another high salary (20% of salary), particularly in a year or two when Barrett needs to re-new his contract.

Filling the PG and C for each 15% of salary would be the goal.