Shams: Raps one of teams to pursue Anthony Davis

[ArthurVandelay]

Looks like IQ knows he's on the TB

Been noticing the happiness is gone from his game for a while now...not just the dancing celebration, I'm glad that is gone. But his facial expressions, body demeanor has been off imo

[Son Goku 25]

Looks like IQ knows he's on the TB

Been noticing the happiness is gone from his game for a while now...not just the dancing celebration, I'm glad that is gone. But his facial expressions, body demeanor has been off imo

Yeah and even on IG his post seems like something is up

[TheRaptor!]

New report he’s open to a trade to raptors or hawks

Oh lord I rather have Trae

[Boogie!]

I'm on the fence. But this trade lines up too well dollarwise to ignore.

Dallas gets:

Immanuel Quickley
$32,500,000
(incl. ULTBE)
+ 3 yr, $97,500,000

Jakob Poeltl
$19,500,000
(incl. ULTBE)
+ 1 yr, $19,500,000 (+ extension)

Gradey Dick
$4,990,560
+ 1 yr, $7,131,511

and has to wave 1 player.

Toronto gets:

Anthony Davis
Center
$54,126,450
+ 2 yr, $121,243,248

D'Angelo Russell
Point Guard
via Mid Level Exception
$5,685,000
+ 1 yr, $5,969,250

and they stay under the 1st apron.

I have no doubt picks of some sort need to be involved but the money just works too well.

From a talent perspective that’s a steal. The issue is obviously Davis is always hurt. What’s the point of fielding a team when theyre never gonna be healthy together. Like jack says sometimes the best ability is availability and Davis for how great he is is never available

[YogurtProducer]

I'm on the fence. But this trade lines up too well dollarwise to ignore.

Dallas gets:

Immanuel Quickley
$32,500,000
(incl. ULTBE)
+ 3 yr, $97,500,000

Jakob Poeltl
$19,500,000
(incl. ULTBE)
+ 1 yr, $19,500,000 (+ extension)

Gradey Dick
$4,990,560
+ 1 yr, $7,131,511

and has to wave 1 player.

Toronto gets:

Anthony Davis
Center
$54,126,450
+ 2 yr, $121,243,248

D'Angelo Russell
Point Guard
via Mid Level Exception
$5,685,000
+ 1 yr, $5,969,250

and they stay under the 1st apron.

I have no doubt picks of some sort need to be involved but the money just works too well.

From a talent perspective that’s a steal. The issue is obviously Davis is always hurt. What’s the point of fielding a team when theyre never gonna be healthy together. Like jack says sometimes the best ability is availability and Davis for how great he is is never available

Yep that is why I am out on AD.

[Smalltown]

From a talent perspective that’s a steal. The issue is obviously Davis is always hurt. What’s the point of fielding a team when theyre never gonna be healthy together. Like jack says sometimes the best ability is availability and Davis for how great he is is never available

I think the gamble is can you get him for 55+ games and the post season. If you think the answer is yes (even with load management) you have to do it IMO.

[Tor_Raps]

Rather have Trae than AD simply because of health and age. AD is a top 10 player when hes healthy but hes never healthy. Raptors have no reason to shrink their contention window to revolve around a 33 year old.

[Jerry Lucas]

Jake Fischer already shot down the notion that the Raptors contextual interest in AD is an upgrade on Poeltl at the 5. He said the Raptors have no plans on trading Poeltl, and want to add AD while keeping Poeltl. Seems like if the Raptors got AD they would start him at the 4.

Which IMO means the bad money the Raptors are widely reported to be exploring moving off of pretty much has to be IQ. Next season RJ is going to be on an expiring contract, so I seriously doubt that kind of reporting could be referring to RJ's contract anymore.

[Raps Militia]

Jake Fischer already shot down the notion that the Raptors contextual interest in AD is an upgrade on Poeltl at the 5. He said the Raptors have no plans on trading Poeltl, and want to add AD while keeping Poeltl. Seems like if the Raptors got AD they would start him at the 4.

Which IMO means the bad money the Raptors are widely reported to be exploring moving off of pretty much has to be IQ. Next season RJ is going to be on an expiring contract, so I seriously doubt that kind of reporting could be referring to RJ's contract anymore.

You necessarily need to get rid of Poeltl's contract and there is no chance of either Barnes or Ingram playing at 2.
Davis is clearly the big man we are looking for to get rid of Poeltl, not to play with him. Among other things, Poeltl also seems physically worse off than Davis.

[ArthurVandelay]

Mavs posturing at this point. There will come a time in near future when reality matters. Very few teams rebuilding get off a huge contract like AD, especially with his red flags, with pure expiring contracts. They will have to take some salary back when considering AD has a $54M contract.

[Brinbe]

I think they're taking a view towards how to counter the best teams (OKC, Hou, NYK, SAS, etc) which do have plenty of size, so I have no issue loading up on that. Trae is an offensive engine unto himself and that's one of his best talents but I don't think it's a real necessity in Darko's offense as they're already a top offense capable of generating looks. The issue has been that they can't hit open looks. So it doesn't really make much sense in terms of an upgrade since Trae is just as streaky a shooter as Quick, arguably even worse and that's not even accounting for his defense.

He makes a lot more sense for a team like the Wiz that needs a marquee name to help sell some tickets.

Their biggest issue has been containing opposing teams who have two mammoth bigs and CMB/Scottie/AD/Yak/Mamu would indeed be plenty of size to help negate that. The guard thing isn't really as big an issue with RJ back and I don't think it's too difficult to go find some league-average guards if it turns out to be an issue. We've seen that Shead is fine enough as a 5th closer if necessary and he has enough shooting to keep teams honest.

And the health factor with understandable but I think we've seen that with Kawhi and Ingram that they know how to manage these things so I'm not really too worried.

[MessiahUjiri]

Mavs posturing at this point. There will come a time in near future when reality matters. Very few teams rebuilding get off a huge contract like AD, especially with his red flags, with pure expiring contracts. They will have to take some salary back when considering AD has a $54M contract.

Agree with this.

Only dumb GMs will trade for AD knowing that they have to pay him a max this offseason. And Klutch is annoying to deal with.

[MiamiSPX]

My more optimistic side reminds myself any contract can be traded in the NBA. Jordan Poole was traded with no significant assets given up. Anything is possible.

I'd say the only untradeable contract right now is Embiid. However, a newly extended AD, for 4-years $275 million, becomes untradeable the second that contract is signed. It would take a miracle for him to even play half of the games in that 4 year span.

[Son Goku 25]

New report he’s open to a trade to raptors or hawks

Oh lord I rather have Trae

Wonder if we try to get both

[tsherkin]

becomes untradeable the second that contract is signed. It would take a miracle for him to even play half of the games in that 4 year span.

Seems hyperbolic, at least to some extent. 2022 was the last time he played less than 51 games. He's played 56, 76 and 51 so far.

He's definitely a guy who will miss significant time, particularly given age and position, but "even play half of the games" doesn't really square with his trend. He's averaged 61 GP the past 3 seasons, or over 74% of available games.

[TheRaptor!]

New report he’s open to a trade to raptors or hawks

Oh lord I rather have Trae

Wonder if we try to get both

We can’t pay em all

BI Scottie AD and Trae?? How?

[YogurtProducer]

New report he’s open to a trade to raptors or hawks

Oh lord I rather have Trae

Wonder if we try to get both

We can’t pay em all

BI Scottie AD and Trae?? How?

Prob would just go Trae/Scottie/AD at that point. BI would have to be going out the door in one of the moves.

Like in theory

Raptors - Trae and AD
Hawks - Ingram and Dick
Mavs - IQ Poeltl and Ochai

Trae / Shead
Walter
Barrett / Battle
Barnes / CMB
Davis / Mamu

Pretty gaping holes on the bench and an absolute fragile starting lineup. But you turn the offence into the Trae show and have Scottie / Davis play crazy D

[MiamiSPX]

becomes untradeable the second that contract is signed. It would take a miracle for him to even play half of the games in that 4 year span.

Seems hyperbolic, at least to some extent. 2022 was the last time he played less than 51 games. He's played 56, 76 and 51 so far.

He's definitely a guy who will miss significant time, particularly given age and position, but "even play half of the games" doesn't really square with his trend. He's averaged 61 GP the past 3 seasons, or over 74% of available games.

I'm factoring in age, and my assumption that he will go into idgaf mode after that last big payday.

[ATLTimekeeper]

AD is rarely in shape, which is why he's always hurt.

[tsherkin]

I'm factoring in age, and my assumption that he will go into idgaf mode after that last big payday.

Age is a factor, but he's still only 32. He won't play deep into his late 30s, I imagine, but he's probably going to be reasonably available for 2 or 3 of those extension years, I'd imagine, especially as his MPG go down.