PG: APOLOGIZE TO IQ

[TheGeneral99]

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Darko also said RJ was day to day and then he missed over a month.

Also Poeltl was day to day - so day to day means nothing, just a dodge.

A bruised thumb is a bit different from a sprained knee or a chronic back issue.

Poeltl was day to day for most of the season until it was decided to give him a few weeks to rest so he could fully recover.

RJ was not day to day...they initially said he will be re-evaluated in a week, then they said another week and after that he was day to day.

I predict Ingram misses a couple games.

[Tripod]

Hopefully that shot gets IQ going and that would be a bigger benefit. Also, I wonder if Darko is going to use Shead to close when protecting a lead and IQ if needing points.

That's what should happen.

[tsherkin]

So, again didn't get a chance to watch the game, but we squeaked it out.

Hope BI is okay.

UGLY game from a shooting standpoint.

RJ's final shooting line looks pretty bleh at 12-25, but he was 11/18 inside the arc, which is wild. Quick was 5/7 inside the arc. CMB crushed the boards at either end (6 O boards was really nice). Mamu did Mamu things.

Charlotte was only in this because we shot so poorly.

Watching the 15-min replay showed the good stuff. Scottie had a nice move on a live dribble into the top half of the paint early. Little drive left, spin back right into a hook. Ingram had a couple of nice shots before he left, and a nice pass to Walter in the corner. Barnes had that nice drive and spin at the rim coming out of transition, bunch of nice, hard drives in general. Nice turnaround at the bottom of the circle. Had a nice on-ball steal. Wasn't his night as a scorer, but there were moments. Barrett was looking like he had more spark and lift in his legs, and it up late. Had that And-1 from the right side with just under a minute left that was very timely, and another shot inside with like 20 seconds to go.

He was 5/15 going into the 4th quarter, and then just went bonkers. Quick was 3/13 going into the 4th, and then also came up big.

Watching Mamu rock an in-and-out dribble and then dumping it off for the assist in the paint was kinda cool, too.

They are the enemy, but the Ball to Bridges oop for the 1-hander was nice. Knueppel didn't have a great shooting night, but looked good in terms of getting to where he needed to be, had some nice passes. Seems like a solid player. Had a beautiful touch high off glass with his left hand in the 2nd.

Nail-biter. Lamelo getting the bucket with 1.6 to go must have felt like a death blow, and then Quick... "Had to call on Jesus for that one." LMAO, Quick, LMAO.

Charlotte's announcers are hysterical. Like soccer announcers.

[Boogie!]

There is that smile

I can’t believe Darko gave the chain to quickley instead of Barrett. I guess he needs to confidence boost

[Boogie!]

I was referencing trend from the beginning of the season. He was at 32% for the first 10 games of the year. But you're right, did not realize how bad the current slump was.

All good. In the end, I want him to succeed. We need his shooting...especially if BI misses any time.

We can withstand 1 out of the 4 guys having bad games. We won't withstand 1 out then 1 having a bad game....as we saw during RJ being out. Because we just don't have the bench scoring to rescue us.

Yup. We need to make some sort of move at the deadline. There just isn't enough points on the roster to withstand any of our scorers missing games. But our starting lineup is so expensive that I don't know how you fully solve for it.

Just package dick, Ochai, whoever, for some role player on a **** team lol.

[SnotoriousBIG]

RJ was like those old school NFL running backs stretching 2 yards into 3 in the 4th.

He's Natrone Means...

[MEDIC]

Derrick White (not really attainable either)

Ah yes forgot him - but White also isn't really a PG and hasn't played the 1 since maybe like his early SA days.

Also forgot about nembhard

NAW?

Actually......he's the perfect player for this roster right now. He's what you hope Jakobe could one day becomes......but we don't have 5 years to wait.

He is also what you want Quick to be. High-volume 3 point shooter (better % than IQ), longer than IQ. Much better defender.

He is exactly the type of player you want on a playoff team.

[Yallbecrazy]

Darko also said RJ was day to day and then he missed over a month.

Also Poeltl was day to day - so day to day means nothing, just a dodge.

A bruised thumb is a bit different from a sprained knee or a chronic back issue.

Poeltl was day to day for most of the season until it was decided to give him a few weeks to rest so he could fully recover.

RJ was not day to day...they initially said he will be re-evaluated in a week, then they said another week and after that he was day to day.

I predict Ingram misses a couple games.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article/raptors-rj-barrett-out-vs-cavaliers-with-knee-sprain/

[MiamiSPX]

After the beatdown we took in the NBA Cup quarters, we are 8-4 since.

6-2 in last 8.
5-1 in last 6.

With 2 starters missing 16 games each.

[ArthurVandelay]

Darko also said RJ was day to day and then he missed over a month.

Also Poeltl was day to day - so day to day means nothing, just a dodge.

A bruised thumb is a bit different from a sprained knee or a chronic back issue.

Poeltl was day to day for most of the season until it was decided to give him a few weeks to rest so he could fully recover.

RJ was not day to day...they initially said he will be re-evaluated in a week, then they said another week and after that he was day to day.

I predict Ingram misses a couple games.

If anything, the team is likely 'happy' he has a minor injury to allow him to rest a couple of games. He's been adamant about no injury management or rest games.

[Westside Gunn]

It's very strange to me that IQ was the one apparently getting all the criticism during the game and not our highest paid player who looked like he was medicated all night.

We're all used to Scottie taking a night off every 5 or so games at this point. And in his defense (which I don't come to often...), his highs are much higher than IQs which helps him navigate the lows with the fan base.

Both guys have unrealistic expectations on them - by both the fans and the franchise. And the franchise didn't do them any favors by handing them the keys prematurely.

IQ was better than Scotty in this game. He never stopped fighting and worked tirelessly. Yet there is still a fixation on his faults/miscues.

It's an obvious bias. It really is some golden child ish.

Its because of his 35 million salary.

If he was at 18 million he'd be getting the OG level worship here.

I can't even say he's overpaid. Freddie got 40 ish millon.
Derrick White gets less but people would be even more frustrated with him and his cold shooting nights.

He just may take a whole year to get better as a PG full time. We made it work with Lowry too no way we can't with Quickley who is much more coachable then Lowry was before his blow up.

[YogurtProducer]

Ah yes forgot him - but White also isn't really a PG and hasn't played the 1 since maybe like his early SA days.

Also forgot about nembhard

NAW?

Actually......he's the perfect player for this roster right now. He's what you hope Jakobe could one day becomes......but we don't have 5 years to wait.

He is also what you want Quick to be. High-volume 3 point shooter (better % than IQ), longer than IQ. Much better defender.

He is exactly the type of player you want on a playoff team.

I like NAW, but NAW instead of IQ doesn't really help us because he is even less of a "PG" than Quick is.

Funnily enough - the advanced stats still love IQ. They love NAW to, but just not as much.

[YogurtProducer]

Derrick White (not really attainable either)

Ah yes forgot him - but White also isn't really a PG and hasn't played the 1 since maybe like his early SA days.

Also forgot about nembhard

But like, what are we even talking about here? We are NOT a better team with Nembhard running the PG for us.

[MEDIC]

Also forgot about nembhard

NAW?

Actually......he's the perfect player for this roster right now. He's what you hope Jakobe could one day becomes......but we don't have 5 years to wait.

He is also what you want Quick to be. High-volume 3 point shooter (better % than IQ), longer than IQ. Much better defender.

He is exactly the type of player you want on a playoff team.

I like NAW, but NAW instead of IQ doesn't really help us because he is even less of a "PG" than Quick is.

Funnily enough - the advanced stats still love IQ. They love NAW to, but just not as much.

NAW as 6th man/ backup PG to Shead would be niiice though.

Plus the Hawks secured him for 15.5 million......1/2 of what Quick cost.

Sign me up

Could you imagine having NAW in this lineup over Jakobe/ Dick/ Walter? He costs about the same as the 3 of them.

Shead/ NAW/ Scottie
Barrett/ NAW/ Ingram
Ingram/ Scottie/ CMB
Scottie/ Mamu/ CMB
Poeltl/ Mamu/ Scottie

That is a nice rotation. Versatility, scoring, defense

[Godaddycurse]

Ah yes forgot him - but White also isn't really a PG and hasn't played the 1 since maybe like his early SA days.

Also forgot about nembhard

But like, what are we even talking about here? We are NOT a better team with Nembhard running the PG for us.

I thought we were talking about what a supposed finished product of Shead could look like. Nembhard >> Shead right now

[YogurtProducer]

NAW as 6th man/ backup PG to Shead would be niiice though.

It would take 5 games of watching Shead be a full-time starter before y'all turned on him and realized there is absolutely 0 way the guy can be a starter in the NBA when his offence is straight up a negative.

Also, why would NAW be the 6th man when he is miles better than Shead, and is a significant better fit with the starters?

I love Shead but we need to pump the breaks here. He works as an energy reserve who defends the hell out of his 18-20 minutes, but he is not a guy you can rely on for more than that.

[YogurtProducer]

Also forgot about nembhard

But like, what are we even talking about here? We are NOT a better team with Nembhard running the PG for us.

I thought we were talking about what a supposed finished product of Shead could look like. Nembhard >> Shead right now

Oh yeah true. But guys were saying a final product of Shead > IQ.

My whole point is that is not true.

The only way Shead surpasses IQ is if he becomes a high level shooter.

[sbsat]

We're all used to Scottie taking a night off every 5 or so games at this point. And in his defense (which I don't come to often...), his highs are much higher than IQs which helps him navigate the lows with the fan base.

Both guys have unrealistic expectations on them - by both the fans and the franchise. And the franchise didn't do them any favors by handing them the keys prematurely.

IQ was better than Scotty in this game. He never stopped fighting and worked tirelessly. Yet there is still a fixation on his faults/miscues.

It's an obvious bias. It really is some golden child ish.

Its because of his 35 million salary.

If he was at 18 million he'd be getting the OG level worship here.

I can't even say he's overpaid. Freddie got 40 ish millon.
Derrick White gets less but people would be even more frustrated with him and his cold shooting nights.

He just may take a whole year to get better as a PG full time. We made it work with Lowry too no way we can't with Quickley who is much more coachable then Lowry was before his blow up.

Quickly ranks 20th in AAV amongst players listed as PG. The argument of his pay still doesn't hold.

[mdenny]

Ayo i was laughing everytime lamelo does his step back 3 and it looks like some sort of celtic highlander two step dance

https://youtube.com/shorts/rMZCh0CsRIo?si=xGtIurE2v2-Hz9Fc

[NinjaBro]

After the beatdown we took in the NBA Cup quarters, we are 8-4 since.

6-2 in last 8.
5-1 in last 6.

With 2 starters missing 16 games each.

"How can anyone find any enjoyment watching this treadmill?"

-TWO